Spitfire formula four

[SlapMcKracken]

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First time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them

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Ride around some rough terrain to create some texture on the riding surface and they should be way better.

Will try. So they are more a street-street wheel and not street park?

What would be better for that?

[DERBY]

First time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them

how fresh is your set? 99 f4s are icy out the box. power slide them around on street and once they break in you’ll see

[Bristol_Palin]

It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

[mynameisnotjeff]

lol skeleton key... 

i want to say my 14 year old self would really want a green on purple wheel but lets not kid ourselves i still want that now
the green on black is definintely more tasteful

do the coloured formula feel different to the main ones? I noticed on Bones STF the colored wheels felt significantly stickier (not sure if they were same duro though) the white ones i have feel so damn light and plasticy vs. the black ones feel heavier and more solid

I had 52mm Classic 99a F4s in that mint color they dropped in like 14. They were really good and I rode the heck out of them. They should rerelease them.

Also, a friend lent me a pair of slime green bones STF and they were really good. Fastest wheel I’ve been on.

[SlapMcKracken]

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First time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them

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how fresh is your set? 99 f4s are icy out the box. power slide them around on street and once they break in you’ll see

Skated them maybe for bit over two hours in a very slick park.

Ok, if they will change everything is fine.

They don’t even have any grooves when they are brand new. I think my other wheels had, but not sure

[Murge]

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First time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them

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how fresh is your set? 99 f4s are icy out the box. power slide them around on street and once they break in you’ll see

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Skated them maybe for bit over two hours in a very slick park.

Ok, if they will change everything is fine.

They don’t even have any grooves when they are brand new. I think my other wheels had, but not sure

Yeah spits don’t have the grooves.  But I think you may end up enjoying them. Just skate some ground that wears them quick but I think you’ll enjoy them F4s are the leader for a reason. Not saying you can’t stray from that. But give them a fair bit and see what you think

[Mbrimson88]

It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

[Mbrimson88]

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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.

Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s

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idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.

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Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.

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How far in did it penetrate?

Riding surface is what I had in mind, or how long did you skate them?

Thanks.

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Wow. I just cut one in half. Way more than I thought. I’d say it penetrated 6mm or so. Biggest thing I see is that the outer couple mms are the darkest, so the riding surface will show wear, but it’s a long way before getting to natural. From what I remember, that one soaked for several days but less than a week.  Also, it’s surprisingly easy to cut a 95a wheel in half with a sharp knife.

I would be very interested to see pics...

[DeepSpace9mm]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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More OG classics soon?

[gsosa]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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More OG classics soon?

Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

[Mbrimson88]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

[Fooj]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?

[Bristol_Palin]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

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Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?

My favorite skater is Matt Reason and I live in New Jersey and lots of the ground I even skate flat on is garbage. Big wheels make it easier

[Banned from the room]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

Tick tock.

Plz Bison if you see the drop alert me.  I stuck aside some bread for the day.

I need to have at least 2 sets of 58s on ice to feel whole.

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

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Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?

The shape is incredible. I like them so much more than connies and locks.

Really it's about that purple graphic size. It's absolute perfection. When combined with the shape it's just the top wheel ever made imo

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

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Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?

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My favorite skater is Matt Reason and I live in New Jersey and lots of the ground I even skate flat on is garbage. Big wheels make it easier

Something about those Mike Anderson sfws was legendary. I had some 53s (small wheel guy here) and they were fantastic: handled some less than ideal pavement/asphalt/gravel, all the whole the feel/texture/vibrations just felt correct. Was the formula different?
I tend to whinge and moan ALOT with bigger wheels. EE3 days and I absolutely did not care and would gladly crank the shit/life/will to turn out of my trucks and throw some 60s onto a 7.8 and feel like the biggest beast in the streets. And the ollies were sick. Now…just looking at my board with big wheels causes me physical pain.
I really need to work out something besides my thumbs

[Mbrimson88]

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It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.

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Just wait...

You won't be disappointed.

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Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?

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Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!

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People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.

I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.

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Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?

Me personally - not really into the OG shape at all, but I know others have been super keen to get more and know when they are coming out again, as they stopped making them for a while to get through the back log of other wheels and shapes / sizes that were coming out.

As to bigger wheels in general, I used to ride the Big Head 57 and 59 mm wheels until they were down under 50 mm and definitely like the wider profile wheels, but for Formula Four, the Classic Full are my normal go to, along with Radials as is, Classics when worn down or Conical Full wheels when worn down and I round off the edges a bit more, most of those from 54 to 52 or smaller in the trade in / swaps I do with other people.


I am sure others will give you more info, but at least the wide riding surface and a bit more narrow width overall are two reasons others I know like them a lot, especially the bigger sizes, as they don't want wheels as wide as mine, but still want the bigger diameter overall.

In Conical Full, they get a bit too big and chunky once past 54 mm, but again, some people really like the shape of those wheels as well, so everyone is going to have their own preferences.

The most noise comes from those who like wheels that are discontinued or reduced in production, as per the Radial Slims, but I think there were other factors at play there, hence stopping production and changing any existing graphics as well for future runs of them.

[rawbertson.]

I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?

[rikki]

I've gone (in the space of 1 1/2 years) from Classics to Tablets to OG Classics to Conicals to back to Classics and finally to Radials.

All are good, with Tablets being my least favorite of them.

Love Radials. Might be my favorite F4 wheel at the moment. Like they say, a great combination of Classics and Conicals. Goes well with anything, really.

(Skated OJ Elite Hardlines in between, too. Great wheel as well, but occasionally feels a bit too wide for other than hard transition skating.)

[rocklobster]

I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?

I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.

[fulfillthedream]

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There are definitely different ways to make it work, but the few sets I have seen others dye penetrated less than a single mm into the wheel.  They looked good when done, then kinda looked cool too when they wore down as the sidewall was still coloured but the riding surface was back to a natural colour.  Not sure if some wheels had the dye really get in a lot more than others, but also keen to hear if anyone else has done this and have their results show.


Darren Navarrette used to bulk dye a lot of the original formula Spitfires in tubs where they would sit on skewers / sticks to hold the wheels half in / half out to get some crazy trippy combos like this page:


https://www.skeletonkeymfg.com/creature-bat-wing.html






Then the Spitfire and Skeleton Key colab had a single half dyed wheel with three plain too.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spitfire-x-skeletonkey/


https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/spitfire-wheels-x-skeleton-key-mfg-99d-skateboard-wheels-59mm-p26672

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those are killer

here are some F4's i dyed a few years back

[intendedreceivers]

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I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?

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I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.

They’ve advertised new, reformulated cruiser wheels recently (the hexagon cutout in the center is an easy way to find the new ones, and they also have real shapes listed around the center, either Classic Full or Conical Full). I bought a set of the 58 CFs. They look amazing, but I probably won’t be skating them for a while. Already have two big cruisers and one mini cruiser that I ride to work regularly.

[goodatmeth]

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I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?

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I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.

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They’ve advertised new, reformulated cruiser wheels recently (the hexagon cutout in the center is an easy way to find the new ones, and they also have real shapes listed around the center, either Classic Full or Conical Full). I bought a set of the 58 CFs. They look amazing, but I probably won’t be skating them for a while. Already have two big cruisers and one mini cruiser that I ride to work regularly.

A friend recently got the 80HD 56mm conical full for his cruiser and loves them. He even manages to slide them somehow, probably his longboarding background. I rode them around and they're smooth and fast. I don't think I could have noticed a difference to 78 ricta clouds, but I only rode them for 5mins or so.

Definitely not the kind of soft wheel that feels super slow

[rawbertson.]

Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire and those were what I was wondering about I should have just said that specifically

My idea is to get a board with super soft wheels and then put one of these plastic things to stop the wheels from touching when you do noseslides like this guy has:

https://youtu.be/q3x4QeOquJ4?t=128

so basicaly the only thing you are missin out on is ez mode powerslides but thats ok the board is meant to ride over really shitty stuff like sidewalk cracks and very old parking lots etc. i use OJ 95a right now its OK but could be a lot softer to deal with that stuff. its a bit too in-between.

I used Rat Bones in the past and I really liked those actually for doing these kind of tricks ( i do a lot of sketchy hill bomb sidewalk manuals you need to go through all the cracks) but they are insanely heavy and the shape is pretty outdated. I have also used Ricta Clouds and they handled it pretty well... but Spitfire is way cooler than Ricta...

[fakiefs180]

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I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?

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I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.

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They’ve advertised new, reformulated cruiser wheels recently (the hexagon cutout in the center is an easy way to find the new ones, and they also have real shapes listed around the center, either Classic Full or Conical Full). I bought a set of the 58 CFs. They look amazing, but I probably won’t be skating them for a while. Already have two big cruisers and one mini cruiser that I ride to work regularly.

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A friend recently got the 80HD 56mm conical full for his cruiser and loves them. He even manages to slide them somehow, probably his longboarding background. I rode them around and they're smooth and fast. I don't think I could have noticed a difference to 78 ricta clouds, but I only rode them for 5mins or so.

Definitely not the kind of soft wheel that feels super slow

I have some 78D 52mm Ricta Clouds and some old HD chargers in 56mm, those without the plastic hexagon inside. The Clouds ride a bit more stable and keep their speed very well. The old HD chargers slow down kinda fast and feel like you sink into the ground, especially if it is wet outside. But those are really old wheels and the new HD chargers might be better now.

[Sedition]

Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…

Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.

[fulfillthedream]

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Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…

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Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.

yeah from what i recall the 80HD has been the main cruiser Spitfire makes for the last decade

[rawbertson.]

ahh my mistake i actually had no idea if it was new or not, i really just meant i saw it in the latest catalog + in retailers, so i know they are still producing them and its something i should be able to get pretty easily

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Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…

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Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.

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yeah from what i recall the 80HD has been the main cruiser Spitfire makes for the last decade

Yes, but they did just re-tool the formula and release new shapes, so in a way they are the newest.

I think they really should have changed the name/marketing/look of them more because most people don’t realize they changed them.

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Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…

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Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.

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yeah from what i recall the 80HD has been the main cruiser Spitfire makes for the last decade

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Yes, but they did just re-tool the formula and release new shapes, so in a way they are the newest.

I think they really should have changed the name/marketing/look of them more because most people don’t realize they changed them.

yeah the formula got changed, the new ones have a hex head bearing separator.