Spitfire formula four

[SpankerChief]

My last 2 sets of conical full ground down to nearly a lock in shape over time anyways. Maybe spit decided to bring back the flat inner wall “lock in shape” because it’s naturally how conicals become on sharp ledges?

I do know they have a massive contact patch and they ride pretty smoothly over fucked up ground. that’s nice.

that'd be a neato idea for a spitfire classic the Crass-cketball as the image on the otherside Jesus died for his sins not mine in their font or a mock spitfire/crass collab, I'd buy it for sure.

[smg1138]

Anybody know which Spitfire F4 has the same shape as Bones STF V4? I want to try some F4 99a urethane, but that's pretty much my favorite all around wheel shape. I'm thinking either the Classic Full or Radial, but they seem hard to find.

[HyenaChaser]

When do those Andrew Allen ones come out

[bbk]

Anybody know which Spitfire F4 has the same shape as Bones STF V4? I want to try some F4 99a urethane, but that's pretty much my favorite all around wheel shape. I'm thinking either the Classic Full or Radial, but they seem hard to find.

yeah, either of those really. Radials shouldn't be hard, and they've had some recent grosso classic fulls.

[sharkin]

When do those Andrew Allen ones come out

They're hitting shops now
https://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=99197
https://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=99198

[Xen]

Classic Fulls coming back around, smallest being 54mm

https://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=99196

[coneklr]

How do the conical full's skate compared to the classic?  Contemplating picking up that set in the classifieds but they seem wide af

[imuseless]

^Smoother on rough ground and locks in to grinds. Some says classics flip better but I can't feel much difference.

[handsclapanin]

How do the conical full's skate compared to the classic?  Contemplating picking up that set in the classifieds but they seem wide af

Conical fulls feel really glued to the ground. You'll mash over rough ground & cracks easier than the classics.
Cons, board feels heavier. Especially on flip tricks, with all that extra weight towards the edge of the board.
Slappies & pool coping feel better with the classics, imo.

[coneklr]

Thanks for the feedback guys!  I picked them up, we’ll see how it works out.

[Mesteezo]

So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

[SkinSideDown]

52mm 101a F4 Classics best wheels kiddos stop wasting your time and money on anything else.

[Reese]

So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

Did you let the dogs out?

The tend to bark more if you don't fill the water bowl

[Xen]

So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

Did one of your wheels tighten up? That's happened to me a few times. New bearings?

I don't think it's just spits tho. I've been riding bones and it happened to me the other day at a park, out of nowhere it was just a silent, no barking at all, wheels still had play and everything. Perhaps is due to riding through something and getting a coating on the wheels?

[Mesteezo]

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So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

[close]

Did one of your wheels tighten up? That's happened to me a few times. New bearings?

I don't think it's just spits tho. I've been riding bones and it happened to me the other day at a park, out of nowhere it was just a silent, no barking at all, wheels still had play and everything. Perhaps is due to riding through something and getting a coating on the wheels?

The wheels have some play and I'm on an old set of reds. I gave my wheels a cleaning and still is silent. I don't have an explanation but I have a feeling it might be my trucks? This is happening on my Ace 44s that I dont use often, but one time I did set up some STFs on these and the same thing happened, silent glidey slides. I just had these wheels on an older set of 55s and they were sliding normally. I'm so confused right now lol. Gonna throw these on my 55s to make sure I'm not crazy, will report back...

[Roisto]

So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

I was once comparing my F4 101s to my F4 99s and was really thrown off at the difference. The 101s were dirty as fuck from skating an indoor park for months. They were kinda sticky and didn’t have a bark at all. The 99s were brand new and felt kinda oily and barked like mad. Absolutely ridiculous bark just doing casual low speed reverts. Once the 99s wore in the bark settled down a bit and the slide felt more normal and also the 101s started making sounds and not feeling so sticky after I slid them excessively to clean them up.

Sounds different to your situation but I guess my point is to give it a while and slide them around to get them to feel like they should.

[Mesteezo]

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So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?

[close]

Did one of your wheels tighten up? That's happened to me a few times. New bearings?

I don't think it's just spits tho. I've been riding bones and it happened to me the other day at a park, out of nowhere it was just a silent, no barking at all, wheels still had play and everything. Perhaps is due to riding through something and getting a coating on the wheels?

[close]

The wheels have some play and I'm on an old set of reds. I gave my wheels a cleaning and still is silent. I don't have an explanation but I have a feeling it might be my trucks? This is happening on my Ace 44s that I dont use often, but one time I did set up some STFs on these and the same thing happened, silent glidey slides. I just had these wheels on an older set of 55s and they were sliding normally. I'm so confused right now lol. Gonna throw these on my 55s to make sure I'm not crazy, will report back...

Alright so I think I can safely say my issue is not with my wheels, but with my trucks. I took my 54 & 56 99a F4's as well as my 52 STF's and tested them all out on both my pairs of trucks (44's and 55's). None of the wheels would bark on the 44's. Yet all of them barked on the 55's.... Still no fucking clue what this means but guess I'll be talking to Ace customer support.

[Serious Tea Drinker]

Could be something to do with spreading the load wider on 55s? I don't know. Stop testing equipment and start skating it.

[HeavyMental]

Could be something to do with spreading the load wider on 55s? I don't know. Stop testing equipment and start skating it.

Lol

[Tarquin]

Anyone skating the Tablets, with them being straight cut and on the skinny side, will having the axle sticking out so much fuck up any tricks like slappies? Just set some up but haven't had a chance to skate them yet and the axle nuts are more exposed than the conical fulls I just took off. I don't want to have to re-thread my axles after every skate.

[Firebert]

Anyone skating the Tablets, with them being straight cut and on the skinny side, will having the axle sticking out so much fuck up any tricks like slappies? Just set some up but haven't had a chance to skate them yet and the axle nuts are more exposed than the conical fulls I just took off. I also don't want to have to re-thread my axles after every skate.

Actually yes. But I was using 149s on an 8.25, so there was a little bit more sticking out of the sides.

[ChasingCars]

Anyone skating the Tablets, with them being straight cut and on the skinny side, will having the axle sticking out so much fuck up any tricks like slappies? Just set some up but haven't had a chance to skate them yet and the axle nuts are more exposed than the conical fulls I just took off. I don't want to have to re-thread my axles after every skate.

I have been skating them for a couple of weeks. I haven't found too much I don't like about them other than they are heavy but I run 56's so they will be better once I ride them for awhile. They seem to lock in pretty well and I have not had issues with basic ledge and slappy grinds. They shine on transition though with a much more stable ride. Can't say much about their speed as I am still breaking in new Zealous Bearings. I would buy them again but probably the 52's.

[Lukabrazi]

been skating 53mm F4 101's the past two weeks at my local skatepark. Absolutely perfect wheel so far for me. I had been riding Bones STF for a few years, and those felt like garbage compared to these. I am sold 100%.

[ballintoohard]

been skating 53mm F4 101's the past two weeks at my local skatepark. Absolutely perfect wheel so far for me. I had been riding Bones STF for a few years, and those felt like garbage compared to these. I am sold 100%.

I legit weighed them and my 52's were lighter than any Spitfire 53 I had, but by 2-3g/wheel at most.

[1xz5h]

Newb here.

Posted in the setup thread not too long ago and decided I'm going to get two different board sizes: an 8 and 8.5 and I'm thinking 52/54 F4s, respectively. Now which specific model I have no idea.

Considering radial slims, radials, conicals, or conical full. Tablets? Don't want to go any bigger than 54mm on the 8.5 b/c of wheel bite potential. I'll be riding 149 Indy standards on both decks fwiw and I'm on the heavier side. Do you think I should go 52mm on both? Most people seem to like the 51-53 range.

Read pretty much the entire thread back from like page 40 or so and I still have no idea what wheels to pick. Looking for an "all-around" terrain wheel I guess. Plan on riding fairly safe flat and maybe some at the local park.

I'm now just getting back into skating after a *long* hiatus so I'm rusty, which is an understatement. Initially won't be doing anything crazy at all, ie acclimating to the feel of the board again, working on pushing comfortably, carving, etc.

Considering all of that, if you *had* to pick one model of the Spit F4s, what would you recommend? I'm leaning towards conical full but not 100% sure. I remember someone mentioning the absolute middle ground is a 54mm F4 conical non-full.

Appreciate any input!

[Reese]

99a F4 52 classic

[Serious Tea Drinker]

If in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.

[1xz5h]

If in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.

Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with 52mm on both decks, one Classic F4s, and the other F4 Conical Fulls to see if there's any significant difference for me. Leery about 54s tbh 'cause of wheel bite as I'm on the heavier side (180 lbs)

[smg1138]

What are the main differences between Formula 4 99a and 101a? I mean obviously one is harder than the other, but I mean practically speaking, how do they differ? For example, is 99a better on indoor Skatelite and 101a better for concrete parks? I skated Bones STF's for years, but they're pretty much like ice on Skatelite. And for anything other than reasonably smooth cement, they're way too hard and rough.

[tangar]

I think keeping the wheel size the same is smart. I like regular conicals a lot. After a while the conical fulls felt almost too grippy. Make sure you come back and tell us your thoughts on them after a few sessions.