Spitfire formula four

[arrbee]

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Got this tattoo almost 14 years ago. Haven't bought or rode another wheel company's product since 1992. I got the tee shirt with the WWII soldier with the flamethrower and I've been hooked ever since

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ill never understand getting a logo of a brand you arent part of tattooed on yourself. but hey whatever floats your boat.

Had a chance to get some tattoos while in high school. So glad I pussy'd the fuck out. I was going to get some shitty emo band logo that I don't even fuck with anymore. No I do have tattoos im not hyped on but they aren't some shitty band I have no tie to

[Freight Train]

I don't think it's necessary to understand why other people do the things they do and like the art they like. I don't question my tastes

[jtrpma]

I don't think it's necessary to understand why other people do the things they do and like the art they like. I don't question my tastes

Second that! I would never trade that for any of my shitty tattoos, but I owe so so much to my memories and corresponding tattoos that I don’t care who’s aesthetics they please.
If you love it it is rad!

[animalflesh]

I have skate brand tattoos and band tattoos who gives a shit

I think they’re awesome

Anyway I bought my first set of f4 today

[gsosa]

Sup gods, I bought thw tablet shapes because of the wider riding surface (was rocking the classics before) but people here don't seem to be as fond of them (only read like 2 pages before this one) whats the dealio with this shape? Pros and Cons? Sorry if this has been asked before (which it surely has been)

[HyenaChaser]

Sup gods, I bought thw tablet shapes because of the wider riding surface (was rocking the classics before) but people here don't seem to be as fond of them (only read like 2 pages before this one) whats the dealio with this shape? Pros and Cons? Sorry if this has been asked before (which it surely has been)

I’m going to piggyback this question as I was forced to buy tablets since there were no f4 conical fulls to be found.

I saw what’s-his-name’s video review but who has firsthand experience?

[Tarquin]

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Sup gods, I bought thw tablet shapes because of the wider riding surface (was rocking the classics before) but people here don't seem to be as fond of them (only read like 2 pages before this one) whats the dealio with this shape? Pros and Cons? Sorry if this has been asked before (which it surely has been)

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I’m going to piggyback this question as I was forced to buy tablets since there were no f4 conical fulls to be found.

I saw what’s-his-name’s video review but who has firsthand experience?

They’re good for locking into smith grinds and feeble grinds (but then so are conical fulls). They’re skinny, making my axles seem wider which I like. A big negative for me is how exposed the axle nuts are because of how skinny they’re cut. It was fucking up slappys at first but I kind of got used to it. They’re not bad but I’ll be going back to conical fulls once I’m done with them.

[jay_nev]

tablets - Straight Cut profile, thin riding surface, speed and control for the sick.


conical full - Wider riding surface and cutaway design for unmatched control and lasting speed everywhere.

[HyenaChaser]

tablets - Straight Cut profile, thin riding surface, speed and control for the sick.

conical full - Wider riding surface and cutaway design for unmatched control and lasting speed everywhere.

I mean, I get that more surface area equals a relatively smoother roll, but what am I supposed to do with “control for the sick?”

Am I sick? Should I become sick? Does it have to be terminal?

[Roisto]

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tablets - Straight Cut profile, thin riding surface, speed and control for the sick.

conical full - Wider riding surface and cutaway design for unmatched control and lasting speed everywhere.

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I mean, I get that more surface area equals a relatively smoother roll, but what am I supposed to do with “control for the sick?”

Am I sick? Should I become sick? Does it have to be terminal?

Spitfire marketing. Such bullshit. Also the tablets by no means have a thin riding surface. It's exactly the same on the 54 mm concial fulls and tablets. They really should stop with this pseudoscientific/technical babble and just stick to facts. Annoys me to no end. Love the wheels though.

[baggy spandex]

I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

[GardenSkater77]

Skate warehouse just got in some conicals and conical fulls.

I ride 52 mm 99a radials and would get them again in 53-54 mm but can’t find them.

SW has 53 mm conical wide and 54 mm conical.

I am leaning to the conical wide, but is that overkill in terms of contact patch width?

Having wider wheels may make flip tricks feel weird.

Anyone have experience with both SHAPES?

GANG!

[thebacker]

Go with the 54's, it's the perfect wheel

[HyenaChaser]

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I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

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I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.

[arrbee]

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I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

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I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

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If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.

I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones

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I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

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I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

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If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.

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I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones

I just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.

[bbk]

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I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

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I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

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If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.

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I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones

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I just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.

Where the fuck did Dyet go? Was he injured or did he just blow it?

[HyenaChaser]

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I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

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I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.

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If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.

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I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones

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I just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.

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Where the fuck did Dyet go? Was he injured or did he just blow it?

You know how he skated Bones? Well like, he’s also on Darkstar, and it’s kind of like, I mean, you get it.

[bbk]

Oh, he's still on Darkstar. Who knew?

[arrbee]

Oh, he's still on Darkstar. Who knew?

Dyet is a space cadet, I doubt he even knows he is on Darkstar

[GardenSkater77]

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I have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.

Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.

Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?

Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?

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Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.

Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.

I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.

[Roisto]

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I have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.

Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.

Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?

Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?

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Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.

Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.

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I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.

Width of the contact patch does not have any effect on grip.

[oldbummer]

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I have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.

Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.

Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?

Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?

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Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.

Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.

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I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.

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Width of the contact patch does not have any effect on grip.

That is why drag race cars use really narrow wheels in the back.

[WorkClothscape]

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I have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.

Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.

Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?

Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?

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Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.

Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.

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I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.

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Width of the contact patch does not have any effect on grip.

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That is why drag race cars use really narrow wheels in the back.

The drag race car accelerating is a more complex system. The skate wheel grip is basically a sliding friction between the ground and the wheel, and the width of the contact patch of the wheel does not have any effect.

[weedgod94]

The skate wheel grip is basically a sliding friction between the ground and the wheel, and the width of the contact patch of the wheel does not have any effect.

[WorkClothscape]

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The skate wheel grip is basically a sliding friction between the ground and the wheel, and the width of the contact patch of the wheel does not have any effect.

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What's your point?

[bbk]

A wheel like that in 99 f4 would obviously be grippier than classics. That fact about friction does not work with skate wheels. We are grinding the wheels down, wider contact patch means more material to wear down, which means more grip.

[Reed Richards]

Probably going to get some conical fulls for this big boy board I'm setting up.  I understand the pros, but are there any cons.

[Roisto]

A wheel like that in 99 f4 would obviously be grippier than classics. That fact about friction does not work with skate wheels. We are grinding the wheels down, wider contact patch means more material to wear down, which means more grip.

Why not? What makes skateboard wheels special that basic physics do not apply to them? Wider contact patch means more material to wear down and better roll over uneven ground but how would it mean more grip?

https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae140.cfm

"Although a larger area of contact between two surfaces would create a larger source of frictional forces, it also reduces the pressure between the two surfaces for a given force holding them together. Since pressure equals force divided by the area of contact, it works out that the increase in friction generating area is exactly offset by the reduction in pressure; the resulting frictional forces, then, are dependent only on the frictional coefficient of the materials and the FORCE holding them together.

If you were to increase the force as you increased the area to keep PRESSURE the same, then increasing the area WOULD increase the frictional force between the two surfaces.
Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A. Physics, Part-time Physics Instructor"

[bbk]

So you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?