Spitfire formula four

[Richard Skidder]

Hey, I just wanted to ask, if someone had the same problem with formula fours chipping recenlty. I chipped my 53m 99a Classics a week ago, but wasnt thinking too much about it because i had them for about 2 months. So I just bought a new set, which I skated today for the first time and it chipped again. The chip is not as big as the chip on the old set but it kind of bummed me out. They are my favorite wheel by far and  I had 7 sets prior to those two sets and they never chipped on me that badly before.

* I skated the same spots as always

If your regular spot has any wooden ramps/boxes I would check for a screw sticking out. I gouged two sets in a row before realizing it was a screw.

[Banned from the room]

I’m thinking about getting a set of 56mm classic f4’s. I usually ride 53mm classic f4’s but my local is out of that size. Would 56mm be too big on an 8.38 board with loose ace 44 trucks?

no. That's my main set up for the last few. Ace 44s loose as possible without up and down play in the pivot area and 56mm wheels. The classic shape is way better than the conical full for avoiding wheel bite.

Rn I'm on the 5.6 with 55 classics loose as they go. A 55mm truck can hold a 56 all day.

[Diocletian]

So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/

It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm  is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?

[Reed Richards]

So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/

It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm  is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?

I think Thiebaud said manufacturing issues in Mexico.  I'm pretty sure DLX wasn't going to roll out F4s without having that formula legally locked up.  Kind of like with comic companies back in the day where they owned any characters created while you were working there.

[rocklobster]

So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/

It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm  is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?

Was hoping they would make a skinnier wheel but their slimmest wheel looks like it's Classic sized.

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So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/

It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm  is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?

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Was hoping they would make a skinnier wheel but their slimmest wheel looks like it's Classic sized.

52 they smallest too. Which makes sense. I should use that as a sign. 52s.

[toyo980]

I using worn 56 conical fulls (53 by now) and im interesting in trying 58 mm classics f4, are they good? Do they lock in?

[gyros4heroes]

I using worn 56 conical fulls (53 by now) and im interesting in trying 58 mm classics f4, are they good? Do they lock in?

someone gave me a used set of 58s and they should be around 53-54 by now. They felt quite weird when i first set them up since my last set had worn down to 50mm or smaller, apart from that they perform amazing, i have been enjoying the extra wide riding surface, they feel great on all terrains and slide really nice. As per locking in, i suck at tranny but grinding ive found crooked grinds dont really work for my with that big/wide of a wheel so i refrained from doing them until recently when they got smaller, any other grind they lock in super nice

[Crabby_Bastard]

So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/

It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm  is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?

He started working at DLX shortly after F4 was created. He was not the creator of the formula.

[tom]

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Thanks I wrote them a message on IG, they wouldn't let me fill in the form since im from Germany.
Hopefully they will respond.

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DLX has great customer service, I had a less than great experience with my Ishod Twin Tail and they hit me up to arrange a board to be sent to me. I covered the shipping 1/2 way which is fair considering I live in Asia.
Do expect a delay given the current COVID situation though, I think their warehouse / customer service are not operating at full capacity.

I’ll attest to the excellent customer service. A long time ago I mentioned here on the boards that I had a new board that felt soft and it cracked within a couple days. Jim Thiebaud personally called the shop I worked at and offered to send me a replacement for it. I’ve always respected that. At that time I primarily only skated Deluxe brands, and I still do to this day


Back to wheels I wish they made the OG Classic shape in an F4 because it looks cool. I’ve skated F4’s since they came out, but I set up a set of regular Classics on a goof around board. Same size, same bearings, but the wheels feel slower. I’m a weirdo and I like colored wheels, so I’m hoping for a green or blue F4 again in the future

[legion]

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Thanks I wrote them a message on IG, they wouldn't let me fill in the form since im from Germany.
Hopefully they will respond.

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DLX has great customer service, I had a less than great experience with my Ishod Twin Tail and they hit me up to arrange a board to be sent to me. I covered the shipping 1/2 way which is fair considering I live in Asia.
Do expect a delay given the current COVID situation though, I think their warehouse / customer service are not operating at full capacity.

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I’ll attest to the excellent customer service. A long time ago I mentioned here on the boards that I had a new board that felt soft and it cracked within a couple days. Jim Thiebaud personally called the shop I worked at and offered to send me a replacement for it. I’ve always respected that. At that time I primarily only skated Deluxe brands, and I still do to this day


Back to wheels I wish they made the OG Classic shape in an F4 because it looks cool. I’ve skated F4’s since they came out, but I set up a set of regular Classics on a goof around board. Same size, same bearings, but the wheels feel slower. I’m a weirdo and I like colored wheels, so I’m hoping for a green or blue F4 again in the future

I'm not sure but I think the OG Classic shape is the same as regular conicals.
SFW's are the same as conical fulls.
Anyone got some to compare?

[munchbox]

53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

[legion]

53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

Conical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?

[moonordie]

53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

Conical full

[munchbox]

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53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

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Conical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?

mix of crust and those stupid sidewalk cracks that pitch me on my radial slims that are worn down to almost 48mm

[Spaced Cadet]

I'm thinking of getting some conical fulls but I'm not sure if I should get 99 or 101D. I've had both 99 and 101 of the F4 classic shape and liked them both. It seemed like the difference between them wasn't as noticeable on rougher ground but I'm curious if a wider wheel would change that. How grippy are the 99s on the conical fulls compared to the 101s?

[Sundaynuggets]

I'm thinking of getting some conical fulls but I'm not sure if I should get 99 or 101D. I've had both 99 and 101 of the F4 classic shape and liked them both. It seemed like the difference between them wasn't as noticeable on rougher ground but I'm curious if a wider wheel would change that. How grippy are the 99s on the conical fulls compared to the 101s?

My 99’s slide noticeably better than my 101’s. The difference in how they feel rolling isn’t too big for me but the slide makes me like the 99’s better

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53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

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Conical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?

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mix of crust and those stupid sidewalk cracks that pitch me on my radial slims that are worn down to almost 48mm

For cracks larger diameter is definitely better. Makes concrete seams a lil less annoying too.

[drewsmahgoos]

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53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides

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Conical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?

Meh, biggest thing I've skated for years is 54mm. I live in PA and there's next to nothing that's actually smooth here. I've said it in another thread but I got 54mm pennswood winter tires. They're cruiser wheels(so really soft) taken through a lathe to make them smaller. They've become great for a real crusty spot. Otherwise, I go 53 or under and don't really have much of a problem. The wider the wheel the better though.

[munchbox]

shop had the 53 conical fulls in 99a. wanted to try the 101a but would rather put money into the shop instead of shopping online, especially in these times. neckface graphic.

took them for a spin to get some grip in the contact patch and holy fuck they go. the hill nearby my apartment is twice as fast on these spits compared to my mini juices. the usual shit in the street that would try to pitch and kill me was not a problem. as it stands, i might have to get a pair in 56mm for the cruiser and just never ride softies again

[HugeBodBoyle]

Conical fulls are just the best shape, imo. Looks good, feels good.

[jtrpma]

Conical fulls are just the best shape, imo. Looks good, feels good.

Second that. I keep coming back to mine even though they are my oldest set of wheels

[Saint Coke]

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Conical fulls are just the best shape, imo. Looks good, feels good.

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Second that. I keep coming back to mine even though they are my oldest set of wheels

How old are we talking? Are they tiny? What duro and size?

[jtrpma]

three years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs

[Saint Coke]

three years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs

post pics?

[jtrpma]

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three years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs

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post pics?

That is fairly recent like a month or two old. I kept rotating them and flipping whenever setting up a new deck.

[Saint Coke]

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three years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs

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post pics?

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That is fairly recent like a month or two old. I kept rotating them and flipping whenever setting up a new deck.

So nice thanks!

[FredGallsBallz]

Is it my imagination or are newer batches of F4's less of a light natural color and more outright tan?  Just got a set of F4 classics and they look weathered as fuck -- not that it matters in the end.

[Live Fast Johnny]

Is it my imagination or are newer batches of F4's less of a light natural color an more outright tan?  Just got a set of F4 classics and they look weathered as fuck -- not that it matters in the end.

It's not just you.  I just got a set from my local from the re-up batch DLX sent the shops after "the shortage" and they are the darkest ones I have had yet.  Skate exactly the same though.

[tzhangdox]

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Is it my imagination or are newer batches of F4's less of a light natural color an more outright tan?  Just got a set of F4 classics and they look weathered as fuck -- not that it matters in the end.

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It's not just you.  I just got a set from my local from the re-up batch DLX sent the shops after "the shortage" and they are the darkest ones I have had yet.  Skate exactly the same though.

I think I also noticed that slightly