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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3360 on: April 09, 2021, 03:53:38 PM »
56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good

Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3361 on: April 09, 2021, 05:37:12 PM »
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
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Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3362 on: April 10, 2021, 01:05:35 AM »
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
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Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
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either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel

Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3363 on: April 10, 2021, 10:58:06 AM »
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
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Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
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either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
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Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.

The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3364 on: April 10, 2021, 02:44:13 PM »
The Spigire 97a
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
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Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
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either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
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Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
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The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.

How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3365 on: April 10, 2021, 02:51:18 PM »
Anyone have a chance to compare the 97a Spits to 95a Oj Nomads? Seem to be trying to hit the same market. Always loyal to Spitfire, but I do dig Oj's for softer stuff ...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3366 on: April 10, 2021, 03:01:37 PM »
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The Spigire 97a
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
[close]

Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
[close]
either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
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Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
[close]

The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
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How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?

bluntslides was no problem with 97, lipslide dont know (forbidden 14)

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3367 on: April 10, 2021, 03:47:19 PM »
Anyone have a chance to compare the 97a Spits to 95a Oj Nomads? Seem to be trying to hit the same market. Always loyal to Spitfire, but I do dig Oj's for softer stuff ...

I've posted a comparison in other threads a few times now. Long story short, both really good wheels that roll as advertised. I prefer the spits as they feel closer to what I usually ride (F4 99as). However the OJs really impressed me also.

The OJs feel like a legit 95 and the Spits a legit 97. Both were almost impossible to flatspot, or chip. Both seem to wear slightly faster than harder wheels but both also seemed faster than other wheels I've used in those durometers.

Crusty streets or super slick indoor spots. Can't go wrong with either.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3368 on: April 10, 2021, 03:52:53 PM »
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Anyone have a chance to compare the 97a Spits to 95a Oj Nomads? Seem to be trying to hit the same market. Always loyal to Spitfire, but I do dig Oj's for softer stuff ...
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I've posted a comparison in other threads a few times now. Long story short, both really good wheels that roll as advertised. I prefer the spits as they feel closer to what I usually ride (F4 99as). However the OJs really impressed me also.

The OJs feel like a legit 95 and the Spits a legit 97. Both were almost impossible to flatspot, or chip. Both seem to wear slightly faster than harder wheels but both also seemed faster than other wheels I've used in those durometers.

Crusty streets or super slick indoor spots. Can't go wrong with either.

Much obliged!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3369 on: April 11, 2021, 11:01:26 AM »
Can anyone tell what shape and size wheels these are? Those are Indy 149's and Jaakko is on Spitfire.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3370 on: April 11, 2021, 11:06:30 AM »
^52 F4 OG Classics would be my guess

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3371 on: April 11, 2021, 12:41:42 PM »
DC Domino came out 9 months ago, I guess the F4 OG classics came out later? My 52mm F4 Tablets look tiny on my 149s. I figured maybe the wheels in the picture are a little bit bigger?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3372 on: April 11, 2021, 01:57:35 PM »
Can anyone tell what shape and size wheels these are? Those are Indy 149's and Jaakko is on Spitfire.



These look like 53mm radials to me.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3373 on: April 11, 2021, 02:08:02 PM »
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The Spigire 97a
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
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Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
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either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
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Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
[close]

The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
[close]

How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?

A fair amount; they are bit stickier than 99s but just a tiny bit, we're talking 2 duro difference here...I had no problems with blunt slides and didn't feel them sticking on grinds.

So I'm stating the obvious but clearly classic and conical full are the most popular shapes as they get the full spectrum duro treatment spit offers. I'd love to see the radial slim in this duro.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3374 on: April 11, 2021, 06:14:24 PM »
Just put on some 101 conical fulls (first time on 101 f4) and holy shit, they feel noticeably faster for me. Or at least it takes less push to get the same speed. Definitely not as comfy on the knees as the 99s but for now, I’m welcoming the change.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3375 on: April 11, 2021, 06:23:58 PM »
I'll probably regret this but Parade just put up a bunch of listings for 97a CFs so shops probably have them in now.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3376 on: April 12, 2021, 01:02:54 PM »
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Can anyone tell what shape and size wheels these are? Those are Indy 149's and Jaakko is on Spitfire.


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These look like 53mm radials to me.

Such a difficult wheel to find!  :)

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3377 on: April 12, 2021, 02:26:34 PM »
Just checking but there's no 97a f4s under 54mm right? Would be down for a 53 or 52 tbh, in a radial slim or something ideally.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3378 on: April 12, 2021, 02:39:33 PM »
Just checking but there's no 97a f4s under 54mm right? Would be down for a 53 or 52 tbh, in a radial slim or something ideally.

They recently posted something about some 53mm classics coming soon in 97a.

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Making 97a classics in 53mm now... not much different than the 54mm we already have

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3379 on: April 12, 2021, 03:46:50 PM »
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The Spigire 97a
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
[close]

Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
[close]
either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
[close]

Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
[close]

The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
[close]

How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?
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A fair amount; they are bit stickier than 99s but just a tiny bit, we're talking 2 duro difference here...I had no problems with blunt slides and didn't feel them sticking on grinds.

So I'm stating the obvious but clearly classic and conical full are the most popular shapes as they get the full spectrum duro treatment spit offers. I'd love to see the radial slim in this duro.

Thanks for the feedback pals. I also would prefer smaller than 54's and a different shape, lock ins or tablets ideally but radials would be cool too. I may just get a set to put on the neighborhood cruiser for when I take my dog on runs. You guys are liking them on rough asphalt? I have 80hds and they are fine as far as speed, but im never comfortable cruising as I can't power slide on hills.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3380 on: April 13, 2021, 01:03:12 PM »
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The Spigire 97a
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56mm conical full 97a

skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
[close]

Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
[close]
either way they fucking go.

really dont see the need for another wheel
[close]

Same here guys.

It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.

Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.

I'm 97a for life.
[close]

The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.

Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
[close]

How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?
[close]

A fair amount; they are bit stickier than 99s but just a tiny bit, we're talking 2 duro difference here...I had no problems with blunt slides and didn't feel them sticking on grinds.

So I'm stating the obvious but clearly classic and conical full are the most popular shapes as they get the full spectrum duro treatment spit offers. I'd love to see the radial slim in this duro.
[close]

Thanks for the feedback pals. I also would prefer smaller than 54's and a different shape, lock ins or tablets ideally but radials would be cool too. I may just get a set to put on the neighborhood cruiser for when I take my dog on runs. You guys are liking them on rough asphalt? I have 80hds and they are fine as far as speed, but im never comfortable cruising as I can't power slide on hills.

They're really great wheels .- more sizes would be very welcome tho...I still have high hopes for an OG classic in 97a

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3381 on: April 16, 2021, 07:39:34 AM »
Had a session with 56mm 97a classic in our slippery masonite indoor park.
Best wheels ive tried for that senario. Felt so powerful with that little bit of extra grip compared to 99a.
I have high hopes for the summer and crusty Streets around my home town.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3382 on: April 16, 2021, 09:52:07 AM »
Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s?  I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot.  Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3383 on: April 16, 2021, 10:19:14 AM »
Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s?  I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot.  Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.

I’ve noticed the same for all my 101 F4 also. Surprising! I wonder if that applies to other wheels too, like Oj elites. My bones 99’s are definitely way grippier than their harder formulas so it doesn’t hold there.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3384 on: April 16, 2021, 11:21:38 AM »
I’m about to get some new wheels. I’ve skated the spitfire classics 54mm forever. I mainly skate ledges and 4-5 foot transition. The ground around me is comically bad so 55mm 97a seems really appealing but I’m worried about pulling the trigger. Can you still power slide normally with something that soft? Does it feel more like a cruiser wheel or regular wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3385 on: April 16, 2021, 11:39:28 AM »
I’m about to get some new wheels. I’ve skated the spitfire classics 54mm forever. I mainly skate ledges and 4-5 foot transition. The ground around me is comically bad so 55mm 97a seems really appealing but I’m worried about pulling the trigger. Can you still power slide normally with something that soft? Does it feel more like a cruiser wheel or regular wheel.

for me it is hard to powerslide at the concretepark, have not tried on asphalt

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3386 on: April 16, 2021, 11:43:52 AM »
I’m about to get some new wheels. I’ve skated the spitfire classics 54mm forever. I mainly skate ledges and 4-5 foot transition. The ground around me is comically bad so 55mm 97a seems really appealing but I’m worried about pulling the trigger. Can you still power slide normally with something that soft? Does it feel more like a cruiser wheel or regular wheel.

Like a regular wheel. I think people expect these to feel like a keyframe or something, but these are a lot closer to a 99 but a little more forgiving. Same bark and slide though.

For reference I skate mostly curb spots in an east coast city.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3387 on: April 16, 2021, 11:48:16 AM »
Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s?  I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot.  Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.

In my opinion the slide/grip ratio has everything to do with the ride patch width. Had some 51 Classic 101's - these have to be the slipperiest wheels I have ever used. These things were nasty slippery on masonite. Then got 52 Tablets 99 - those are as solid as a rock in comparison. Have to actually work them to get them to slide. They are slower compared to wheels with a slim riding patch, but I'll take that, especially indoors.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3388 on: April 16, 2021, 11:53:17 AM »
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Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s?  I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot.  Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.
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I’ve noticed the same for all my 101 F4 also. Surprising! I wonder if that applies to other wheels too, like Oj elites. My bones 99’s are definitely way grippier than their harder formulas so it doesn’t hold there.

Glad it's not just me then!  They still slide great, but they bark louder (which is fun) and they seem to allow more control when it comes to speed checks.  It's also nice on 180 tricks since you can power through while reverting with a little extra force and not worry as much about looping out.  They're an awesome park wheel, but they still feel too hard and slow on even ordinary asphalt.  I'll stick with 99s for slappies and what little street skating I actually do, unless and until I spring for some of the 97s everyone in here is constantly praising.

In my opinion the slide/grip ratio has everything to do with the ride patch width. Had some 51 Classic 101's - these have to be the slipperiest wheels I have ever used. These things were nasty slippery on masonite. Then got 52 Tablets 99 - those are as solid as a rock in comparison. Have to actually work them to get them to slide. They are slower compared to wheels with a slim riding patch, but I'll take that, especially indoors.

Yeah, I can definitely tell a difference between radials and radial slims in terms of how well they hold on, given how much wider radials are, but I'm comparing apples to apples here. I went from 54mm 99a radial slims to 54mm 101a radial slims and can definitely tell a difference in terms of how they grip, and it didn't go in the direction I'd have expected.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3389 on: April 16, 2021, 11:56:08 AM »
Yeah, I can definitely tell a difference between radials and radial slims in terms of how well they hold on, given how much wider radials are, but I'm comparing apples to apples here. I went from 54mm 99a radial slims to 54mm 101a radial slims and can definitely tell a difference in terms of how they grip, and it didn't go in the direction I'd have expected.

Yup I get it, makes me wonder whether the 101 Tablets would grip like 99 Tablets on Masonite. If they do that would be amazing as they only complaint I have towards 99 Tablets is they're pretty slow.