Spitfire formula four

[MysticalTypeExperience]

Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

[Painted Baby]

Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

DLX has super good customer service and will replace those if you contact them. Use the Hit Us Up button on the homepage: https://www.dlxsf.com/

[rocklobster]

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Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

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DLX has super good customer service and will replace those if you contact them. Use the Hit Us Up button on the homepage: https://www.dlxsf.com/

Or hit them up on social media, they are responsive on IG

[Mbrimson88]

Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

Also just checking where you got them from too.

Not a big deal, as I haven't seen many of those as fake wheels, but there are lots of others floating round.


I have had and seen some that do look unevenly made in manufacturing, but still rolled fine when I had them on the board.  Anything like that is a valid claim, so as said above, hit them up and send pics, etc.

[versacekid420]

Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

they sent 2 sets of f4s with three 52mm wheels and one 54. funniest thing i’ve seen product wise in a while and ive seen the jeff dechesare pro model

[MysticalTypeExperience]

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Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?

I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.

Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.

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Also just checking where you got them from too.

Not a big deal, as I haven't seen many of those as fake wheels, but there are lots of others floating round.


I have had and seen some that do look unevenly made in manufacturing, but still rolled fine when I had them on the board.  Anything like that is a valid claim, so as said above, hit them up and send pics, etc.

I ordered them from Skate Warehouse

Messaged DLX via their site a few days ago, no response yet.

[listentoaheartbeat]

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in case anyone was curious, here’s the classic full measurements (bought a set of the 53mm today, noticed it wasn’t on the formula four page)

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Thanks!



It is funny they have pulled almost all the info for the Classic Full, but even more funny they still haven't actually got the right measurements in there, especially for the bigger wheel sizes.

I think the 53mm was about right, but the 54 and up were wider overall that what is listed.

How were yours?


This was a post from back in June when I measured some of the sets I had:


Classic Full are a wider wheel overall, so add 1 to 2 mm to the middle width of classics, but yeah only 1 or 2 mm total width difference, to .5 mm difference between classic to radials.

I should take a pic of the Classic Full packaging, but they actually get all the measurements wrong.


Fixed the widths to be more accurate, although I think they were maybe .5 mm wider in the 56 and 58 mm sizes.

Couldn't resist and ordered 52mm Classic Fulls. I've really been enjoying the 52mm Classics lately and figured the extra width wouldn't hurt when I need a new set.

My set matches the measurements printed on the packaging as posted above. Perfectly, too. I've used a caliper. Here's a comparison shot with my worn-down 52mm Classics:

[Mbrimson88]

Couldn't resist and ordered 52mm Classic Fulls. I've really been enjoying the 52mm Classics lately and figured the extra width wouldn't hurt when I need a new set.

My set matches the measurements printed on the packaging as posted above. Perfectly, too. I've used a caliper. Here's a comparison shot with my worn-down 52mm Classics:

Did you have to order from outside of EU or did a local shop get them in?


I think the 54mm classic full is the one I would skate if I only had one wheel to choose from and skate from new.

The bigger classics are nice when they wear down a few mm, but most of the time it just doesn't work to get 56 or 58mm wheels and take the time to wear them down to between 52-54 mm.

Mine from the other day, now about 53mm.

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Couldn't resist and ordered 52mm Classic Fulls. I've really been enjoying the 52mm Classics lately and figured the extra width wouldn't hurt when I need a new set.

My set matches the measurements printed on the packaging as posted above. Perfectly, too. I've used a caliper. Here's a comparison shot with my worn-down 52mm Classics:

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Did you have to order from outside of EU or did a local shop get them in?


I think the 54mm classic full is the one I would skate if I only had one wheel to choose from and skate from new.

The bigger classics are nice when they wear down a few mm, but most of the time it just doesn't work to get 56 or 58mm wheels and take the time to wear them down to between 52-54 mm.

Mine from the other day, now about 53mm.

Classic Fulls are available at several (mailorder) shops in Germany at the moment. They are called Repeaters and come in 52, 53, 54 mm:

https://no-comply.de/search?type=product&q=Repeaters

I don’t want to put risers on my street setup so riding anything above 54 mm is not really an option for me anyway, but I also really like small and light wheels on my street setup atm.

[Mbrimson88]

Classic Fulls are available at several (mailorder) shops in Germany at the moment. They are called Repeaters and come in 52, 53, 54 mm:

https://no-comply.de/search?type=product&q=Repeaters

I don’t want to put risers on my street setup so riding anything above 54 mm is not really an option for me anyway, but I also really like small and light wheels on my street setup atm.

Glad there are some available over there, as others had been saying there were minimal F4s around that they could find.

Might be limited to some places or styles though, but that shop seems to have a good range, sizes, styles, etc.

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Classic Fulls are available at several (mailorder) shops in Germany at the moment. They are called Repeaters and come in 52, 53, 54 mm:

https://no-comply.de/search?type=product&q=Repeaters

I don’t want to put risers on my street setup so riding anything above 54 mm is not really an option for me anyway, but I also really like small and light wheels on my street setup atm.

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Glad there are some available over there, as others had been saying there were minimal F4s around that they could find.

Might be limited to some places or styles though, but that shop seems to have a good range, sizes, styles, etc.

When I got hooked on F4 in the beginning of the year anything but Classics were extremely hard to come by. Now there is plenty supply of various shapes, sizes, and duros. Some shops like Freedom in Vienna, No Comply in Colonge, and others seem to have specialized in F4 which is great. I am sure local shops here in Berlin have them, too, but they never have the boards I want so I’ve been buying online for years.

[beandemon]

Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.

[skateviewer]

Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.

i tried the 97a conical fulls but went back to 99s cause they feel better for pretty much everything, just my preference though

[Frank and Fred]

97s are pretty available. I'm on some right now and def prefer 99s. The softer ride is really only worth it either on really rough or very slippery spots. Same with the 101s. Worth trying but were only useful trying to slide the shit out of ledge and curb tricks. 99s are really the all-round sweet spot.

[TastyBurrito]

97s are pretty available. I'm on some right now and def prefer 99s. The softer ride is really only worth it either on really rough or very slippery spots. Same with the 101s. Worth trying but were only useful trying to slide the shit out of ledge and curb tricks. 99s are really the all-round sweet spot.

I prefer 97a on my curb/flat ground board as my local curb spot can be a touch crusty

[listentoaheartbeat]

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97s are pretty available. I'm on some right now and def prefer 99s. The softer ride is really only worth it either on really rough or very slippery spots. Same with the 101s. Worth trying but were only useful trying to slide the shit out of ledge and curb tricks. 99s are really the all-round sweet spot.

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I prefer 97a on my curb/flat ground board as my local curb spot can be a touch crusty

I actually didn’t like 97A on crusty asphalt since I’d get stuck when sliding 180 tricks even the tiniest bit. Shelved them after the first session, not sure whether I should sell them or try at the indoor park.

[Mbrimson88]

Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.

If anything they have sold beyond expectations, which is why you might not see many / any around in shops.

There are certainly a lot more people out there wanting slightly softer wheels too, but given it is a slightly different market and the wheels now coming in different sizes and shapes, many people have bought them, even if it is just to try them and see what they are like.

The set I have on a board has not really been skated much, but any time I know I am going to a slippery new skatepark, that is the setup I will be rolling on there.  I prefer a little more grip and a little less slip nowdays though.


Also interesting to hear that some people are more keen on them than others, which is all part and parcel to having a softer wheel.

My go to is the normal F4 99 duro, but the 97 duro wheel is perfect for a number of places I know and skate.

[camel filters]

Im on 97 54mm conical fulls and i honestly can't tell the difference between the 99 and these. Maybe I just forgot what the 99's felt like...

[rocklobster]

I wish they did those in more shapes like the Conical, Tablet or Radial Slim. The last of which I'm worried will never return to production.

[Mbrimson88]

I wish they did those in more shapes like the Conical, Tablet or Radial Slim. The last of which I'm worried will never return to production.

I kept meaning to ask, but did you "Hit them up" about the Radial Slims?

If you haven't and not going to, I might anyway, just to ask.

No biggie, but it might help your decision process if you did know they are done, or they are just having a break.

[rocklobster]

Not yet, I'll man up and DM them now.

[manysnakes]

Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.

I see them for same everywhere. My local is hyped on them and pushing them for skating northwest crust. To be honest, I couldn’t be happier with a wheel than I am with the 97a F4s.

[manysnakes]

Im on 97 54mm conical fulls and i honestly can't tell the difference between the 99 and these. Maybe I just forgot what the 99's felt like...

I got back on 99s after a month or so on the 97s and I felt like my teeth were gonna get rattled out of my head. I ended the session early. They’re still great for most skatepark concrete, but for the terrain I skate, it’s 97a all the way.

[RichardBarkley]

My knees and legs are way less sore skating 97as.

[Mbrimson88]

Not yet, I'll man up and DM them now.

Any reply yet?

Yes I know I am being too keen!

[rocklobster]

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Not yet, I'll man up and DM them now.

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Any reply yet?

Yes I know I am being too keen!

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My knees and legs are way less sore skating 97as.

This is what I would like. I really love the feel of 99s but looking for something softer for my cruiser setup. I think I'll pick some bigger 97s. How do they compare to Slimeballs 97a?

[Mbrimson88]

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My knees and legs are way less sore skating 97as.

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This is what I would like. I really love the feel of 99s but looking for something softer for my cruiser setup. ai think I'll pick some bigger 97s. How do they compare to Slimeballs 97a?

I have had both pretty much the same size on the same setups and they do compare pretty much evenly from the skates I had on those boards - 56mm 97 duro.

Personally I prefer Spitfire as I know with Formula Four, there are way less chances of getting flatspots, and at least they come in classic (53mm up to 56mm which is what I have) and conical full shapes too (54mm up to 58mm if you can find them) but both worked well.

[theloniousmonk]

The 97a spitfires are great, and Slide very, very well. I’m on classics now, and am hoping that they make them in smaller sizes soon

[Sundaynuggets]

The 97a spitfires are great, and Slide very, very well. I’m on classics now, and am hoping that they make them in smaller sizes soon

The classics do slide really well, oddly enough my conical fills don’t slide nearly as well