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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3810 on: January 23, 2022, 01:54:56 PM »
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are the regular radials no more?
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The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.


Yeah I think they just ran out of room on the backing cards, so can only put so  many on there, compared to the now eleven different shapes, isn't it?


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3811 on: January 23, 2022, 02:08:18 PM »
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are the regular radials no more?
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The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.
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Yeah I think they just ran out of room on the backing cards, so can only put so  many on there, compared to the now eleven different shapes, isn't it?

Definitely, though I think it’s 10:

Classic
Classic Full
Lock-Ins
Tablets
O.G. Classics
Radial Slims
Radials
Radial Full
Conical
Conical Full

As a Tech Writer, it really bothers me that they don’t name the shapes consistently. Slims vs. Full(s), Radials vs. Conical(s), etc.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3812 on: January 23, 2022, 02:36:37 PM »

didn't work, here is the link
https://ibb.co/jJGKBDf




I updated my post from before with the chart you uploaded, so again thanks for that!


Here's the one from the Oskis if it helps...




Thanks for that too!

Interesting it seems it is only the Radial Full wheels that come with the changed chart, as per this one, from the Radials, which still has the 2021 chart as is.


Those normal Radials are a nice wheel too.



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are the regular radials no more?
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The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.
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Yeah I think they just ran out of room on the backing cards, so can only put so  many on there, compared to the now eleven different shapes, isn't it?
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Definitely, though I think it’s 10:

Classic
Classic Full
Lock-Ins
Tablets
O.G. Classics
Radial Slims
Radials
Radial Full
Conical
Conical Full

As a Tech Writer, it really bothers me that they don’t name the shapes consistently. Slims vs. Full(s), Radials vs. Conical(s), etc.


https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/73413/Spitfire_Andrew_Reynolds_Sweeper_Formula_Four_99D_Classic_Slim_Wheels



Classic Slim wheels were the eleventh shape.

Guessing the Classic Slims will never make a comeback, but they were in there for a minute, mainly the Reynolds pro wheels, but I guess there wasn't enough interest to keep them going.


I totally get what you mean too - some have (s) on the end, some do not.

Just one of those things, but I always try to keep the names in capitals too, eg Radials, Classic Full, etc.  That is just my "English teacher" coming out though, not that I ever finished teaching college.



Edit:

A better listing of the "Classic Slims" with the side view as well.

https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/spitfire-wheels-reynolds-street-sweepers-99du-classic-slims-formula-four-skateboard-wheels-52mm-p27595

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3813 on: January 23, 2022, 05:50:54 PM »
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are the regular radials no more?
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The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.
Huh Idk why I thought they were fulls but got a set yesterday and really like them. Curious what other ppl think about them tho

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3814 on: January 23, 2022, 06:02:34 PM »
Currently started skating an old set of 54m radials I dug out and man I hope they make these more available

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3815 on: January 23, 2022, 06:23:50 PM »
I haven’t seen lock-ins in years.  I massively chunked mine and was never able to find a replacement.  I liked them a lot.  Wide surface, big lock in, still rounded enough on the outside to roll up on things.  Great transition shape.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3816 on: February 03, 2022, 09:30:34 PM »
Well, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.

Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3817 on: February 04, 2022, 03:44:32 AM »
Well, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.

Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?


OG Classics ride and feel like a very squared off wheel, with a cutout from just under the lip of the wheel, so when they go down a few mm, they end up quite sharp, just like the Conical Full and similar wheels do.

They were also thinner than I had first thought, but when setup they skate well, sort of like a fatter Tablet or Radial Slim, even if it is barely a mm or so extra.

I can't help but think that Conical Full are maybe the best all rounder, even if I am not so keen on them when new, all the older used sets of 54mm, mostly down around 50-52 mm I have received back from people and then machined to be a bit more round on both edges just work so well.


The tablet with a little rounding is maybe the closest thing to what a lot of people miss with the Radial Slim wheels, but I guess most people are a bit scared to take an angle grinder to wheels like I do.  If they are not used to it, they can make a pretty big mess, but it pays off - the same dimensions with a slightly more rounded edge.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3818 on: February 04, 2022, 06:57:16 AM »
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Well, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.

Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?
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OG Classics ride and feel like a very squared off wheel, with a cutout from just under the lip of the wheel, so when they go down a few mm, they end up quite sharp, just like the Conical Full and similar wheels do.

They were also thinner than I had first thought, but when setup they skate well, sort of like a fatter Tablet or Radial Slim, even if it is barely a mm or so extra.

I can't help but think that Conical Full are maybe the best all rounder, even if I am not so keen on them when new, all the older used sets of 54mm, mostly down around 50-52 mm I have received back from people and then machined to be a bit more round on both edges just work so well.


The tablet with a little rounding is maybe the closest thing to what a lot of people miss with the Radial Slim wheels, but I guess most people are a bit scared to take an angle grinder to wheels like I do.  If they are not used to it, they can make a pretty big mess, but it pays off - the same dimensions with a slightly more rounded edge.

I don't think that insert picture is very representative of the OG Classics' actual shape - it's definitely much sharper. I'm currently skating some and they're far sharper on the edge than I thought they'd be. I was much a much bigger fan of tablets (even though they're just as square, I like their edge more) since they don't feel like they lock in as hard.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3819 on: February 04, 2022, 07:03:46 AM »
Rumor is
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3820 on: February 04, 2022, 07:52:25 AM »
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Well, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.

Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?
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OG Classics ride and feel like a very squared off wheel, with a cutout from just under the lip of the wheel, so when they go down a few mm, they end up quite sharp, just like the Conical Full and similar wheels do.

They were also thinner than I had first thought, but when setup they skate well, sort of like a fatter Tablet or Radial Slim, even if it is barely a mm or so extra.

I can't help but think that Conical Full are maybe the best all rounder, even if I am not so keen on them when new, all the older used sets of 54mm, mostly down around 50-52 mm I have received back from people and then machined to be a bit more round on both edges just work so well.


The tablet with a little rounding is maybe the closest thing to what a lot of people miss with the Radial Slim wheels, but I guess most people are a bit scared to take an angle grinder to wheels like I do.  If they are not used to it, they can make a pretty big mess, but it pays off - the same dimensions with a slightly more rounded edge.




Pretty sure if I had an angle grinder, I'd probably do it ;)

I've not ridden 'conical' spits since their debut, only classics/classic slim (I'd still ride them if they made them), radial slims, tablets (yuck) and the Conical full 97a.

Currently setting up a new sled and am torn between classics and radial slims. Been on Bones V5s for a minute (closer to classics).

The radial slims are still out there!
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3821 on: February 04, 2022, 10:04:50 AM »
You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?

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« Reply #3822 on: February 04, 2022, 10:10:06 AM »
You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?

Classic Fulls still come up every once in awhile. Usually as a Lifer model for someone like Lance.That's probably my favorite all round shape. Noticeably wider than a Classic, great shape that seems to last longer and I like the way they square off as they wear down.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3823 on: February 04, 2022, 10:24:04 AM »
I'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3824 on: February 04, 2022, 04:33:04 PM »
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You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
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Classic Fulls still come up every once in awhile. Usually as a Lifer model for someone like Lance.That's probably my favorite all round shape. Noticeably wider than a Classic, great shape that seems to last longer and I like the way they square off as they wear down.

There are some out there now.  They go by "repeaters"
https://seasonsskateshop.com/products/spitfire-f4-repeater-54mm-classic-full

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3825 on: February 04, 2022, 04:39:31 PM »
I'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?

I sure do. These are exactly that 58 classic worn down to 54, maybe a little bit under.



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« Reply #3826 on: February 04, 2022, 04:59:24 PM »
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I'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?
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I sure do. These are exactly that 58 classic worn down to 54, maybe a little bit under.




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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3827 on: February 04, 2022, 06:09:31 PM »
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You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
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Classic Fulls still come up every once in awhile. Usually as a Lifer model for someone like Lance.That's probably my favorite all round shape. Noticeably wider than a Classic, great shape that seems to last longer and I like the way they square off as they wear down.


When I was running a shop (so had wholesale access) and the Grosso 56 mm and then the Lance 56 mm Classic Fulls came out I bought any and all I could get my hands on.

Any that had the one different colour, I usually tried to buy four sets, so I could swap them out, so I would get the white / natural sets and someone else could take the neon yellow, or blue or whatever others there were.  Someone always wanted a unique set of coloured wheels and I was stoked on the regular ones without any colour.

They really are such a good wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3828 on: February 05, 2022, 05:10:54 AM »
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I'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?
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I sure do. These are exactly that 58 classic worn down to 54, maybe a little bit under.



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3829 on: February 05, 2022, 05:15:53 AM »
You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
Aren’t Bigheads Classic Fulls?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3830 on: February 05, 2022, 06:18:16 PM »
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You can’t really go wrong with Classics.

To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.

What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
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Aren’t Bigheads Classic Fulls?


They sure are, back when they were called "Bighead shape" before F4 and Classic Full was even a thing.

That was my go to for a long, long time and I still have a few too many of them new and used, floating around.


The funny thing is the newer ones are actually not as wide as the older ones, so somewhere along the way, they became the new Classic shape, more so than the Full shape they used to be.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3831 on: February 07, 2022, 02:23:08 AM »
anybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3832 on: February 07, 2022, 03:31:55 AM »
anybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid

http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3833 on: February 07, 2022, 04:50:49 AM »
Speaking of 97A Classics, after exclusively skating them at the indoor skatepark I tried the concrete bowl and some flat (rough asphalt) again. Didn’t like them there in the summer, way too sticky, but now with temperatures between 0-5 °C they felt pretty good. More forgiving than 99A and with a controlled slide even on humid patches. I am using them on the Heroin Symmetrical Egg, feels like a great setup for mellow sessions when speed is not a priority.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3834 on: February 07, 2022, 05:07:24 AM »
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anybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid
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http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg

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sick, thanks. if they're staying in the range i hope they're going to make 58mm 97 classics in the future. i bought my 56s on the 1st of september and they went down to 48-49 in 5 months. it took a whole year for my 58 99 classics to wear down to 50

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3835 on: February 07, 2022, 10:55:21 AM »
Over summer 21' I started skating the OG Classic shaped F4's, I prefer it over the conical full as they are more of the square shape i look for while having a large riding surface

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3836 on: February 07, 2022, 09:03:45 PM »
Anyone got a review of the Radial Fulls yet? Specifically, the 60mm?

Want a wheel for big rugged parks... Think giant Oregon coast parks like Lincoln City....

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« Reply #3837 on: February 07, 2022, 10:19:32 PM »
Over summer 21' I started skating the OG Classic shaped F4's, I prefer it over the conical full as they are more of the square shape i look for while having a large riding surface

yeah same but Im kinda gonna ditch square wheels might as well skate classics and hold crooks better and grind faster

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3838 on: February 08, 2022, 03:50:36 AM »
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anybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid
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http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg

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sick, thanks. if they're staying in the range i hope they're going to make 58mm 97 classics in the future. i bought my 56s on the 1st of september and they went down to 48-49 in 5 months. it took a whole year for my 58 99 classics to wear down to 50


Wow, that is interesting to hear, so they wore out in half the time.

I usually find my softer wheels last so much longer than my normal 99 duro wheels, but maybe I am not doing as much on them.

Anything in particular where you were skating, or how you were skating that might have influenced how quickly they wore down?



And re 97 duro wheels, I think there is an even bigger market than they first thought, so there are lots more coming out in the coming deliveries, more so in the Conical Full shape - 58mm and 60mm next drop as others have already said, but Classics are the primary shape, so I can't see them being stopped any time soon, but who knows about the bigger sizes.

I haven't skated my 97 duros half as much as I thought I might, but there haven't really been the situations where I wanted or needed more grip or slightly softer duro wheels a whole lot here, but I got a couple of sets of the 56 Classics and a couple of sets of the 54 Conical Full wheels just to have them if I needed them.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3839 on: February 08, 2022, 03:55:27 AM »
Anyone got a review of the Radial Fulls yet? Specifically, the 60mm?

Want a wheel for big rugged parks... Think giant Oregon coast parks like Lincoln City....


From seeing some of those places and knowing how the 60mm Spitfires skate, I would say "Get them!" as I think they would work really well.

Anything with a decent width truck and good size board and those things would just work so well.

I do recall seeing some more F4 Classics in 60 mm out again now too, which are 39mm wide and start with a decent contact patch for a classic, 21.5 mm if a slightly more rounded wheel was preferred, but those Kader wheels are huge all round, so I think they would definitely work well on Oregon crust.


The last set I recall seeing:


My spare/novelty/shaped setup is quickly becoming a great cruiser and gnar/ditch board I think...



Found a home for the 60mm Kaders and trying my first set of deck rails since my Staab c. 1987, lol.




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