Spitfire formula four

[munchbox]

anyone have some slightly worn down radial fulls?
wondering what the shape looks like with a few mms missing

[DERBY]

anyone have some slightly worn down radial fulls?
wondering what the shape looks like with a few mms missing

sorry dont have any slightly worn down ones but these were the 58s. theyre down to 54



https://imgur.com/a/htvZnBX

[Space Cowboy]

What’s the the difference between OG classics and the regular conicals? Just the conicals have a slightly smaller riding surface? Or are the cut of the corner angles different?

The OG Classic Shape is much more of a sharp cut (much less rounded than normal conical or conical full, basically 90 degree for sake of simplicity) and has a slightly wider riding surface, ideal square wheel for me

The F4 OG classic has been my favorite wheel so far because I love square cut wheels for how lock ins on rails feel, and they have great riding surface

[Murge]

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What’s the the difference between OG classics and the regular conicals? Just the conicals have a slightly smaller riding surface? Or are the cut of the corner angles different?

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The OG Classic Shape is much more of a sharp cut (much less rounded than normal conical or conical full, basically 90 degree for sake of simplicity) and has a slightly wider riding surface, ideal square wheel for me

The F4 OG classic has been my favorite wheel so far because I love square cut wheels for how lock ins on rails feel, and they have great riding surface

Awesome thank you I appreciate the info!

[Mbrimson88]

It seems some people have been having issues with the wheels being a bit off, bearing seat or just the wheel itself being slightly oval in shape.

Anything like this is a definite warranty claim, best going back to the shop you got them from first and foremost, but you can contact DLX directly to talk about them.


From the Wheels thread:

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Recently just bought my first pair of spitfire wheels ever and one wheel is noticably wobbly. I took the bearings off multiple times, mixed them up, bought a bearing press, did it all again multiple times and that's the long story short.

https://imgur.com/a/3vINWLG (here's the imgur video of the wheel spinning. I'm still learning how to make media appear on here.)

I've mostly skated bones stf, and rictas for street/park skating and a some ojs and satoris for cruiser wheels.

I'm pretty bummed on this.

The lower quality of the gif doesn't even do a justice.

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Contact them here and make sure to include where you bought them from and include all relevant media.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/guaranteed/

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Yeah holy shit thanks I had no idea it was like that.

I'm not trashing spitfire, I'm still hyped. It's my first pair and I think spitfire is sick but for real tho. out of all the wheels I've ever skated; Bones, ricta, satori, board brand wheels, haha flip tri cuts was my first "real" wheel, but all that to say I've never had an issue with any other wheel like this. Every other wheel had rolled straight.

And yeah I emailed them, Cameron something got back to me and requested all the required stuff. I provided all the required shit including video and it's been two days and I've heard nothing. I'm honestly getting kinda butt hurt now.

Really hoping to get a replacement set. Hell I even started off asking for just one wheel to get sent to me.

[FuzzGNU]

Shit, I just ordered some F4 Radial Fulls and for the first time pulled the trigger on some Bones Swiss Six. I'm really afraid to put them in now.

It would be a major bummer to put my brand new bearings in a defective wheel and damage them right away while skating. Especially since I know  that even just removing a bearing from a skate wheel, it damages the bearing. I might have to just put some basic bearings in the wheel for now and save the Swiss for the next wheel I grab.

[thanksgiving]

Shit, I just ordered some F4 Radial Fulls and for the first time pulled the trigger on some Bones Swiss Six. I'm really afraid to put them in now.

It would be a major bummer to put my brand new bearings in a defective wheel and damage them right away while skating. Especially since I know  that even just removing a bearing from a skate wheel, it damages the bearing. I might have to just put some basic bearings in the wheel for now and save the Swiss for the next wheel I grab.

that chance that your wheels are defective is so low. if you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.

[FuzzGNU]

that chance that your wheels are defective is so low.

I've just seen a ton of posts on here about defects lately.

if you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.

You right.

[Mbrimson88]

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that chance that your wheels are defective is so low.

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I've just seen a ton of posts on here about defects lately.

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if you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.

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You right.

What you often read and see on here is maybe a more vocal user base for anything, but what you also don't really hear is how many people have Spitfire wheels with no issues at all.

From all the Spitfire Formula Four wheels I have had and had come through my hands over the years, quite a few hundred at least, I think I have had two sets in total that had issues that were manufacturing defects, so again that is pretty good overall.

[Ourladyoftheflowers]

I hate to say it but after getting an email back from spitfire, I sent photos and description and never heard back about the racer issues with my radial fulls. Bought a pair of 58 og classics and having the same issue, one wheel the bearing is popping out and won’t go back in. Had to use the bearing press at my local shop just to get a session in. Hopefully they get back to me cause I’m 80 bucks in the hole now. Even bought new bearings in case my old ones were fucked and even my new modus don’t fit right.

[rocklobster]

I hate to say it but after getting an email back from spitfire, I sent photos and description and never heard back about the racer issues with my radial fulls. Bought a pair of 58 og classics and having the same issue, one wheel the bearing is popping out and won’t go back in. Had to use the bearing press at my local shop just to get a session in. Hopefully they get back to me cause I’m 80 bucks in the hole now. Even bought new bearings in case my old ones were fucked and even my new modus don’t fit right.

Cameron is usually quick on the replies but I guess they are overwhelmed ATM, sent a request weeks ago but haven't heard back yet.

[tuesday]

Just found out that you get an optical illusion for a moment when you spin the classics with this graphic



As if the wheel is spinning backwards for some time. Maybe they are tripping like me.

[Mbrimson88]

For anyone who is in need of a Spitfire Wheel Chart that comes in the packaging of the wheels.

I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.

Sorry if I didn't credit your pic, but these were spread throughout this and other threads and I only thought about it afterwards.

Here's the one from the Oskis if it helps...

Charts to compare size (incorrect sizes on the Classic full wheels on the chart, but correct below in text):



I had a dig through some boxes and found not only the old Classic Full cards, but also a set of the Spitfire Cardiel Charro wheels, which are actually 54.5 mm and they measure 35 wide with 19 contact (maybe even 19.5 mm contact).

So the sizes are really as follows:


Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:

52       33       18
53       33.5    18.5
54       34       19
54.5    35       19.5
56       37       22.5
58       38       24

[FuzzGNU]

That's big, thanks!

So it looks like at the moment they are keeping Radial Slims and "OG" Classics, but dumping the Radials in favor of Radial FULLs.

I think that all makes sense.

[Mbrimson88]

That's big, thanks!

So it looks like at the moment they are keeping Radial Slims and "OG" Classics, but dumping the Radials in favor of Radial FULLs.

I think that all makes sense.

They have made Radials and Radial Full wheels a lot more lately, but they don't appear to have made ANY Radial slims for a while now.

As others will point out, there are still some in shops though, but the numbers are dwindling.

I don't think there have been many Lock Ins for a minute either, but I thought I saw some in a shop drop not too long ago.  Could be easily mistaken though.


It was easier to add all the different backing cards (still two I had seen but cannot find right now) but all the other shapes of wheels have been coming out in fairly normal quantities, besides Radial Slims.

Who knows what takes priority on the backing cards, but I really don't think the wheels shown equates to what is out, mainly they just ran out of room for all the shapes, so had eight max in that space.

[Cthulhu!]

The bearings have started sliding out of my conicals...

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Nooooooo

My older f4s (pre pandemic) are all still going strong. The ones I’ve bought in the last year have slight wobbles, which is why I thing they are noticeably slower.
I guess I’ll have to stick with some real baked potato looking wheels for a bit.

[Murge]

I just got some regular conicals love them so far. I think they may be pre pandemic because radial full isn’t listed on the card. Some here to hoping I avoid the bearing and other issues

[Mbrimson88]

I just got some regular conicals love them so far. I think they may be pre pandemic because radial full isn’t listed on the card. Some here to hoping I avoid the bearing and other issues

I could definitely be wrong, but I thought the only wheels that have Radial Full on the card is the Radial Full wheels.

All others still have the normal Radials in the eight wheel shapes.


Saw some brand new ones which are definitely from the most recent drop (graphic) and they were the usual eight.


Re pre pandemic wheels, I think there were not a whole lot of them left, given they were in such short supply, almost sold out everywhere, even though there would be some shops / places that still had a lot.

I have had at least twenty sets through my hands that I know are post pandemic and only one of those had a single wobbly wheel.

[Frank and Fred]

How much 'wobble' are people talking about? Spacers and washers helping?

[Mbrimson88]

How much 'wobble' are people talking about? Spacers and washers helping?

The bearing seat was out, so the wheel didn't actually spin correctly when both bearings were in for the one I had.

It is weird but I know I have seen other wheels that are slightly oval shaped and not round, so when you put them on and spin them very slowly they go ever so slightly in out in out in out less than a mm and you can't actually feel it while you skate but it often makes you think and wonder about them.

[Murge]

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I just got some regular conicals love them so far. I think they may be pre pandemic because radial full isn’t listed on the card. Some here to hoping I avoid the bearing and other issues

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I could definitely be wrong, but I thought the only wheels that have Radial Full on the card is the Radial Full wheels.

All others still have the normal Radials in the eight wheel shapes.


Saw some brand new ones which are definitely from the most recent drop (graphic) and they were the usual eight.


Re pre pandemic wheels, I think there were not a whole lot of them left, given they were in such short supply, almost sold out everywhere, even though there would be some shops / places that still had a lot.

I have had at least twenty sets through my hands that I know are post pandemic and only one of those had a single wobbly wheel.

Oh I didn’t know only radial fulls was only listen on the radial full cards.
I also forgot there was a wheel shortage when they was selling like hotcakes so now I’m pretty positive mine is pandemic or current earth spitfire run.
So far mine seem fine when I out a bearing in one did go in crooked which is kinda weird thing cause I do it with the bearing on the truck and pushed the wheel over it. But I popped the beating back out and it went in flush little tight of a fit but everything looked good.

[Tale Crab]

I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.

The Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.

[Mbrimson88]

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I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.

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The Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.

Yes I made a mess of that one.

I really only get the 56 and 58mm Classic Full wheels, which are a lot wider in real life, but were actually less than the Classics on the standard card, with one set of used 54mm Classic Full coming after I did that "fix" which I had been meaning to correct but hadn't gotten around to it.


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I had a dig through some boxes and found not only the old Classic Full cards, but also a set of the Spitfire Cardiel Charro wheels (from 2015), which are actually 54.5 mm and they measure 35 wide with 19 contact (maybe even 19.5 mm contact).

So the sizes are really as follows:


Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:

52       33       18
53       33.5    18.5
54       34       19
54.5    35       19.5
56       37       22.5
58       38       24

[Fooj]

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I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.

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The Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.

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Yes I made a mess of that one.

I really only get the 56 and 58mm Classic Full wheels, which are a lot wider in real life, but were actually less than the Classics on the standard card, with one set of used 54mm Classic Full coming after I did that "fix" which I had been meaning to correct but hadn't gotten around to it.


* Edit

I had a dig through some boxes and found not only the old Classic Full cards, but also a set of the Spitfire Cardiel Charro wheels (from 2015), which are actually 54.5 mm and they measure 35 wide with 19 contact (maybe even 19.5 mm contact).

So the sizes are really as follows:


Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:

52       33       18
53       33.5    18.5
54       34       19
54.5    35       19.5
56       37       22.5
58       38       24

damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop

[Mbrimson88]

damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop

It is a funny one.

They are a good sized wheel, but with that Cardiel graphic, I keep thinking I can skate other wheels and hold on to these.

Usually the first thing I do is take the graphic off anyway, as I just want the wheels for how they perform.

Right now the Spitfire Repeaters which are Classic Full come in 52 and 54 mm in natural, 53 mm in black, with quite a few still around if you wanted that size wheel.

[tuesday]

Since the repeaters came up again, I thought some of you might like a flashback. 60mm power cored (97DU outer, 100DU inner) Spitfires from around 2000.

[Mbrimson88]

Since the repeaters came up again, I thought some of you might like a flashback. 60mm power cored (97DU outer, 100DU inner) Spitfires from around 2000.

That's so good!

I still have some other Power Cored wheels but none like that.

The old 95 and 97 duro wheels were really good for a lot of things back then.

[listentoaheartbeat]

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damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop

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It is a funny one.

They are a good sized wheel, but with that Cardiel graphic, I keep thinking I can skate other wheels and hold on to these.

Usually the first thing I do is take the graphic off anyway, as I just want the wheels for how they perform.

Right now the Spitfire Repeaters which are Classic Full come in 52 and 54 mm in natural, 53 mm in black, with quite a few still around if you wanted that size wheel.

Been skating the 52 mm Repeaters and just bought a set of 54 mm ones in a sale. Figured if I wear them down to 50-52 mm I’ll have my perfect wheel since small Radials don’t seem to make it into the catalogue (last year’s colored wheels are not an option).

[Murge]

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damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop

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It is a funny one.

They are a good sized wheel, but with that Cardiel graphic, I keep thinking I can skate other wheels and hold on to these.

Usually the first thing I do is take the graphic off anyway, as I just want the wheels for how they perform.

Right now the Spitfire Repeaters which are Classic Full come in 52 and 54 mm in natural, 53 mm in black, with quite a few still around if you wanted that size wheel.

What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already