Spitfire formula four

[FuzzGNU]

I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

[rocklobster]

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I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

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Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

53mm 97a Orange Swirl will always be a mystery to me.

[fakiefs180]

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I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

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Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.

[FuzzGNU]

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I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

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Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

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Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.

I would recommend looking into Bones wheels if you like skinnier shapes. Their v5 is essentially Conical maybe slightly smaller, and their v6 between Conical and Conical full. Most of their wheels Max out around 54mm.

Haven't tried their STF 99a yet to speak to them, but I love their 103a on smooth ground. My favorite hard hard wheel.

If you care about wheel color or whatever, I know the Bones 99a look more natural like F4.

[thanksgiving]

can’t remember if these are spring d2 or summer but antisocial got em early!

[burm]

can’t remember if these are spring d2 or summer but antisocial got em early!

That’s kinda hot actually, been wanting to try 99d conical fulls but hard to justify 50€ when I have perfectly ok 101 classics already…

[Xen]

DLX just might as well discontinue the radial slim at this point...still on the hunt for a set in 99a

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

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Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

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Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.

I'm on some 52 conicals now and I'm really liking them. They slide well but don't look super wide the way conical fulls do? Those really wide surface area wheels sort of spin me out mentally. Still waiting to find a perfect set of radials that I've convinced myself are my goldilocks wheel...

[fakiefs180]

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I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls

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Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?

It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.

It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.

Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?

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Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.

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I'm on some 52 conicals now and I'm really liking them. They slide well but don't look super wide the way conical fulls do? Those really wide surface area wheels sort of spin me out mentally. Still waiting to find a perfect set of radials that I've convinced myself are my goldilocks wheel...

Maybe I have the same with the really wide riding surface on the 53 OG classics for example.

I had some Radials in 54 a few years ago and those also have a wide riding surface, but I think a 51 or 50 radial could be really nice.

Just ordered a set of 52 conicals. The madness.. I tell ya

[skateviewer]

any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

[Frank and Fred]

Potato brown talk only.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

I can't ride colored wheels. I'm so desperate for radials and Spit is only releasing them in colors lately which is fucking me up. More power to people who can ride them but they aren't for me. Potato only.

[LebowskisRug]

I’ve got a pretty new set of Classic Fulls and 2 sets in the closet so I’m pretty committed, but I’d try a radial or like a 53 conical again for sure.

[big_kev_215]

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any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

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I can't ride colored wheels. I'm so desperate for radials and Spit is only releasing them in colors lately which is fucking me up. More power to people who can ride them but they aren't for me. Potato only.

Not sure what size you’re looking for - the Oski radials in 55 and 57 mm seem to be pretty readily available (at least in the states).  I just picked up a set of the 55s for the spring/summer. 

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

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I can't ride colored wheels. I'm so desperate for radials and Spit is only releasing them in colors lately which is fucking me up. More power to people who can ride them but they aren't for me. Potato only.

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Not sure what size you’re looking for - the Oski radials in 55 and 57 mm seem to be pretty readily available (at least in the states).  I just picked up a set of the 55s for the spring/summer.

I've been looking for 52 or 53 which I've only seen in the Blue "Skate like a Girl" color or the Black with the Trippy Swirl. Might need to get over the madness and pull the trigger on the 55s.

[Paco Supreme]

Does anyone from DLX still lurk these boards?
If you’re here, make normal fucking radials in a good range of sizes, you can still make the Skate Like A Girl colours but people want potato wheels dammit

[Rattus Localis]

Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34). 

[rocklobster]

Does anyone from DLX still lurk these boards?
If you’re here, make normal fucking radials SLIM in a good range of sizes, you can still make the Skate Like A Girl colours but people want potato wheels dammit

[thanksgiving]

any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.

[Cthunderw]

Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

[braksabbath]

What happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper

[LebowskisRug]

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Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

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I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.

[Rattus Localis]

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Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

[close]

I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

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This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.

Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.

[Mbrimson88]

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Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

[close]

I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

[close]

This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.

[close]

Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.

What happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper

That is pretty much all correct to what I find with the wheels and a big yes from me for Classic Full shaped wheels.

One or two mm up in size for a Classic shape does wear down nicely to a good Classic Full type of wheel.

Even to the point of getting 54mm Classic wheels to skate on one setup for bigger / go faster stuff, then have another setup for more tech stuff when they get down a bit to 52mm or less.

I feel like Classics are the only wheel that I can happily skate if needed from 56mm or even 58mm down to almost 50mm without having to take the sharp edges off with a grinder, as I do with Conical Full or other styles that I get back from trades from people upgrading.

Classic Full wheels when available are just the wider version of the Classics, but at times are a difficult wheel to find, due to only releasing them for specific runs in very limited sizes, eg the last 56 and 58mm versions for the Grosso wheel and then the 54, 56 and 58mm Lance Mountain wheel were very popular back in 2019 to 2020, then I don't recall many besides the Ransom graphic 2020 / 2021 since then, but now the Repeater in 52 and 54mm in natural and 53mm in black in 2022.

When you get up into the bigger sizes, they are very wide, but for most people who want something more around the 52 to 54mm sizes, at least there are still normal Classics which wear down nicely as well.

Because the Classic shape is so rounded, they still retain some roundness to the edge even when they wear down a lot, which does mean they skate better overall for many people too.

Everyone has their own preference of wheel, so I am not trying to change any minds if you have your own thoughts that differ, but from skating pretty much all the shapes and seeing all of them at the end of their life, not just at the beginning, Classics tend to fare the best overall with less issues, chipping, sharp edges, etc.

I guess that is why they are called the "Number one wheel shape in skateboarding" or something to that effect.

[Coping Grinder]

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any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

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mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.

I was told a long time ago that the dye they use to make any wheel colored is going to have an effect on the recipe of the wheel, and will most likely be noticeably harder/softer than even other dyes.

[manysnakes]

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any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.

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mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.

[close]

I was told a long time ago that the dye they use to make any wheel colored is going to have an effect on the recipe of the wheel, and will most likely be noticeably harder/softer than even other dyes.

Yeah, the light yellow tan of Spitfire wheels is the “natural” color of their polyurethane, according to their marketing. I’ve gotta imagine that adding any other chemicals to the mix will effect how it performs. Maybe they have engineered around this, I don’t know, but it certainly does have an effect.

[typeischeap]

I leave for a decade and come back and dyed wheels are STILL different than natural color wheels in the same durometer? C'mon science you're letting me down! 

Skated my new (but broken in) tablets back to back with my black conicals and the black wheels definitely rode softer. Maybe in my mind but I don't think so.

[El Freegano]

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Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

[close]

I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

[close]

This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.

[close]

Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.

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What happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper

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That is pretty much all correct to what I find with the wheels and a big yes from me for Classic Full shaped wheels.

One or two mm up in size for a Classic shape does wear down nicely to a good Classic Full type of wheel.

Even to the point of getting 54mm Classic wheels to skate on one setup for bigger / go faster stuff, then have another setup for more tech stuff when they get down a bit to 52mm or less.

I feel like Classics are the only wheel that I can happily skate if needed from 56mm or even 58mm down to almost 50mm without having to take the sharp edges off with a grinder, as I do with Conical Full or other styles that I get back from trades from people upgrading.

Classic Full wheels when available are just the wider version of the Classics, but at times are a difficult wheel to find, due to only releasing them for specific runs in very limited sizes, eg the last 56 and 58mm versions for the Grosso wheel and then the 54, 56 and 58mm Lance Mountain wheel were very popular back in 2019 to 2020, then I don't recall many besides the Ransom graphic 2020 / 2021 since then, but now the Repeater in 52 and 54mm in natural and 53mm in black in 2022.

When you get up into the bigger sizes, they are very wide, but for most people who want something more around the 52 to 54mm sizes, at least there are still normal Classics which wear down nicely as well.

Because the Classic shape is so rounded, they still retain some roundness to the edge even when they wear down a lot, which does mean they skate better overall for many people too.

Everyone has their own preference of wheel, so I am not trying to change any minds if you have your own thoughts that differ, but from skating pretty much all the shapes and seeing all of them at the end of their life, not just at the beginning, Classics tend to fare the best overall with less issues, chipping, sharp edges, etc.

I guess that is why they are called the "Number one wheel shape in skateboarding" or something to that effect.

I am super thankful that I listened to your advise to get 54 classic. I prefer smaller wheels like 51-52, but the worn down classics to these dimenssions are just perfect street wheels that can be used both for tech sk8ing and also on some rougher ground.

[Rattus Localis]

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Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:

How do you find they compare to regular classics?

Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.

Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?

I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).

[close]

I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.

[close]

This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.

[close]

Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.

[close]

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What happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper

[close]

That is pretty much all correct to what I find with the wheels and a big yes from me for Classic Full shaped wheels.

One or two mm up in size for a Classic shape does wear down nicely to a good Classic Full type of wheel.

Even to the point of getting 54mm Classic wheels to skate on one setup for bigger / go faster stuff, then have another setup for more tech stuff when they get down a bit to 52mm or less.

I feel like Classics are the only wheel that I can happily skate if needed from 56mm or even 58mm down to almost 50mm without having to take the sharp edges off with a grinder, as I do with Conical Full or other styles that I get back from trades from people upgrading.

Classic Full wheels when available are just the wider version of the Classics, but at times are a difficult wheel to find, due to only releasing them for specific runs in very limited sizes, eg the last 56 and 58mm versions for the Grosso wheel and then the 54, 56 and 58mm Lance Mountain wheel were very popular back in 2019 to 2020, then I don't recall many besides the Ransom graphic 2020 / 2021 since then, but now the Repeater in 52 and 54mm in natural and 53mm in black in 2022.

When you get up into the bigger sizes, they are very wide, but for most people who want something more around the 52 to 54mm sizes, at least there are still normal Classics which wear down nicely as well.

Because the Classic shape is so rounded, they still retain some roundness to the edge even when they wear down a lot, which does mean they skate better overall for many people too.

Everyone has their own preference of wheel, so I am not trying to change any minds if you have your own thoughts that differ, but from skating pretty much all the shapes and seeing all of them at the end of their life, not just at the beginning, Classics tend to fare the best overall with less issues, chipping, sharp edges, etc.

I guess that is why they are called the "Number one wheel shape in skateboarding" or something to that effect.

Cheers lads, I pulled the trigger on the 52s. Lord knows I don't need any more wheels, but I found a way of talking myself into it.

[FuzzGNU]

I'm enjoying my Radial Full 99a 56mm so far. I haven't ridden them long enough for a full review.

I can't really say if I like them more or less than Conical Full yet. They definitely feel a bit different. They're definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated.

One thing that surprised me though. My wheel actually chunked a bit on the edge? Its not massive or anything, but I don't know if I've ever had chunking on a hard (especially) rounded wheels? Especially not in the first handful of sessions.

I haven't even grinded on anything, this is literally just from 4-5 sessions on flatground and skating to/from in the street. Must literally just be from a pebble.