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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4230 on: July 23, 2022, 08:53:07 PM »
Tablets worked pretty decent for me…I just don’t like how they look. Classics look good.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4231 on: July 24, 2022, 03:03:58 AM »
I recently impulse-bought a set of 56 mm Radial Fulls and they may have sparked a new love for large wheels. I have been using 52 mm Classics and Classics Full on my popsicle before.

Just pushing around and rolling feels so much better, and somehow that translates into how I do my tricks. More flow and more commitment!

They are bulky of course. Flip tricks are draining, which sucks since I have been on a mission to (re)learn them. I equally like the Radial Fulls on street and transition, which I cannot say has been true for any other F4 shape.

About the video, I have never been able to do that manual around my local bowl on 52 mm wheels, and I can do it consistently on the Radial Fulls. Now I kind of want to go fast enough so I can properly roll in.







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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4232 on: July 24, 2022, 03:14:42 AM »
Not gonna lie, those things look ridiculous.
Classic fulls on the other hand…. Might ween me off the radial hill I’m dying on

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4233 on: July 24, 2022, 07:09:31 AM »
I recently impulse-bought a set of 56 mm Radial Fulls and they may have sparked a new love for large wheels. I have been using 52 mm Classics and Classics Full on my popsicle before.

Just pushing around and rolling feels so much better, and somehow that translates into how I do my tricks. More flow and more commitment!

They are bulky of course. Flip tricks are draining, which sucks since I have been on a mission to (re)learn them. I equally like the Radial Fulls on street and transition, which I cannot say has been true for any other F4 shape.

About the video, I have never been able to do that manual around my local bowl on 52 mm wheels, and I can do it consistently on the Radial Fulls. Now I kind of want to go fast enough so I can properly roll in.







I bought these same radial fulls in 58mm from a pal, and they’re actually hilarious how big and stupid they are. I set them up on my cruiser and they’re like little monster truck wheels. They do roll very smooth, but I can’t imagine trying to flip em
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4234 on: July 24, 2022, 07:17:29 AM »
Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4235 on: July 24, 2022, 10:51:49 AM »
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Anyone have any positive things to say about Tablet 55s?
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55 OG classics are very very close in width and contact width. I'd consider those also as they have a slight sidecut.



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4236 on: July 24, 2022, 10:56:50 AM »
Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.

I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4237 on: July 24, 2022, 07:01:21 PM »
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Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.
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I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems


Bigger wheels definitely have a place in my heart, but I also have quite a few setups.  Even just having two completes, one with bigger wheels and one with smaller wheels usually means I have the best of both worlds, but the other thing is a lot of the time they are the same wheels, one set fairly new, the other set well worn down, so there is that option, depending on which wheel it is, more so the Classics but any wheel should be ok besides super heavy wide wheels.

As far as Radial Full wheels, I have seen them around a bit now in shops and on people's boards and they are an excellent wheel for the sort of skating that relies on going faster, rolling over everything and fewer tech type tricks, even though people can still flip, grind and slide well on them.

The only reason I haven't bought a set or three is I just have too many other wheels and cannot justify any more, but I think they would be a whole lot of fun on bigger or "go faster" boards, for which I already have Conical Full or Radial Full in 56 and 58 mm sizes.

The two sets of Radials in 54 mm I have are maybe 52 to 53 mm now and are so good, but I also find wearing down Classic 54, 55 or 56 to a similar size works just as well for me, so if you are pining for Radials, then at least that is another option, using them on a bigger board to start with and then putting them on the tech setup once they wear down a few mm.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4238 on: July 25, 2022, 06:17:09 AM »
I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems

I picked up some 53 trippy swirl radials in HB a few weeks ago. The skate like a girl wheels come in this size and shape too. They are low stock so just have to find them...

Edit: neither of those are potato colored so that may matter to some.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4239 on: July 25, 2022, 08:53:40 AM »
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I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems
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I picked up some 53 trippy swirl radials in HB a few weeks ago. The skate like a girl wheels come in this size and shape too. They are low stock so just have to find them...

Edit: neither of those are potato colored so that may matter to some.

Yeah, that was my issue, colored wheels just don't do it for me. I should just get over it but I keep thinking "the next drop will have potato 53 radials, i know it".
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4240 on: July 27, 2022, 10:18:09 AM »
Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.

Wheel madness is real. Took my Heroin egg out for a lazy day session. Really liked the 53 mm Classics on that setup, so not sure about the big wheels any more. I'll just give up on finding the perfect setup and mix things up.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4241 on: August 02, 2022, 07:35:39 AM »
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4242 on: August 02, 2022, 07:42:36 AM »
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
I don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop.  So if you know where some are you better grab them.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4243 on: August 02, 2022, 08:24:42 AM »
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?

Seriously. It's like they just stopped producing radial/radial slims. Damn shame.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4244 on: August 02, 2022, 08:59:49 AM »
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Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
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I don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop.  So if you know where some are you better grab them.

Aghhh okay think I'll grab them then. They're from a shop I like too. It's the repeaters graphic from last year I think


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4245 on: August 02, 2022, 09:00:39 AM »
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Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
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Seriously. It's like they just stopped producing radial/radial slims. Damn shame.

Yeah not sure what's going on. Such a good shape and I feel like they last forever unlike classics. Can only find the chunky Oski and Kader Radials atm

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4246 on: August 02, 2022, 09:21:02 AM »
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?

I posted a few posts up...they are out there but not in potato color.

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-trippy-swirl-skateboard-wheels-99d-53mm-1-7536761569536/
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4247 on: August 02, 2022, 10:47:53 AM »
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?

Yeah I’ve heard rumors there may be some 53-54 radials coming, but no potato colors; all black or swirl or whatever
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4248 on: August 02, 2022, 11:22:18 AM »
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Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
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I posted a few posts up...they are out there but not in potato color.

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-trippy-swirl-skateboard-wheels-99d-53mm-1-7536761569536/

Thanks for the help. Shame they're not making it as a staple wheel in potato colour. I'll go for the classic fulls. Not much difference but I just really like the radials that I'm skating atm.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4249 on: August 02, 2022, 12:22:35 PM »
^that's true. that's one my personal rules with gear, if I can't get that part whenever I want, I don't really wanna run it on my regular setup. Shit getting broken and worn out is part of skating, so skating something I can't get again, whether it's a deck, shoes, wheels, trucks kinda stresses me out. That way you can enjoy destroying your product.

that's why I dont really fuck with shaped boards either, had fun on a dan's rig shape and didn't see another pop up for like 2 years. Now I dont want another one, even though dan's the man.

I always buy f4 classics or conical fulls b/c they always run them every season in a ton of sizes and all the duros they offer, and I think they both look cool. don't really have a preference on wheel shape either. I just run what I feel like looking at.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4250 on: August 02, 2022, 01:13:58 PM »
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Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.

Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
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I don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop.  So if you know where some are you better grab them.
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Aghhh okay think I'll grab them then. They're from a shop I like too. It's the repeaters graphic from last year I think
Yeah that's what I'm running in 52mm right now and love them.  Trying to scare up a set of 54s for backup but striking out so far.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4251 on: August 02, 2022, 04:07:47 PM »
^that's true. that's one my personal rules with gear, if I can't get that part whenever I want, I don't really wanna run it on my regular setup. Shit getting broken and worn out is part of skating, so skating something I can't get again, whether it's a deck, shoes, wheels, trucks kinda stresses me out. That way you can enjoy destroying your product.

that's why I dont really fuck with shaped boards either, had fun on a dan's rig shape and didn't see another pop up for like 2 years. Now I dont want another one, even though dan's the man.

I always buy f4 classics or conical fulls b/c they always run them every season in a ton of sizes and all the duros they offer, and I think they both look cool. don't really have a preference on wheel shape either. I just run what I feel like looking at.



I feel you. I don't run shaped boards anymore for that reason and ditched riding Spit radial slims for regular conicals because they are readily available. I'm also weening myself off twins since they are (sans DLX) are disappearing.

Shoes are different tho, if I REALLY like a pair I will buy another to put on ice. If, when I get to the second pair and I've found a better shoe, I'll sell the other pair off (usually at a profit).


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4252 on: August 06, 2022, 07:39:03 AM »
I've been skating the 58mm radial fulls for a week or so and these have gotta be the slipperiest wheels I've ever had. I love the shape and width and the slide is definitely awesome, but they're almost too slippery and they're 99a. Anyone else experience this?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4253 on: August 06, 2022, 11:03:23 AM »
I've been skating the 58mm radial fulls for a week or so and these have gotta be the slipperiest wheels I've ever had. I love the shape and width and the slide is definitely awesome, but they're almost too slippery and they're 99a. Anyone else experience this?

Are they natural or dyed color?

Edit: reread... My Radial Fulls were not overly slippery, but did have some defect. Not sure what that it about.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4254 on: August 06, 2022, 11:04:35 AM »
I've been skating the 58mm radial fulls for a week or so and these have gotta be the slipperiest wheels I've ever had. I love the shape and width and the slide is definitely awesome, but they're almost too slippery and they're 99a. Anyone else experience this?

I’ve got the same wheels and they’ve been ok for me. They’re on a cruiser and I roll them in a dusty ass warehouse that’s hella slick.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4255 on: August 07, 2022, 07:11:55 AM »
Phew, I can't imagine trying these out indoors it would be an ice rink. I still love em though. Everyone has been commenting on how massive they look, too and they're like what shape are those?! I lined em up alongside 60mm 95a OJ Combos and they're basically the same width it's nuts ;D

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4256 on: August 07, 2022, 07:22:42 AM »
Phew, I can't imagine trying these out indoors it would be an ice rink. I still love em though. Everyone has been commenting on how massive they look, too and they're like what shape are those?! I lined em up alongside 60mm 95a OJ Combos and they're basically the same width it's nuts ;D

It’s crazy how big they are, they’re little monster truck wheels. I had NFG MFG 58 Vees before which looked big and these blow them away
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4257 on: August 10, 2022, 04:04:39 AM »
Can someone please tell me what the difference is between Conical, Radial (both offer half and Full versions it seems), Classic etc? i understand its the way the wheels are cut out, but why?

Also, do you guys notice much difference between a 99a and a 101a in f4s?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4258 on: August 10, 2022, 05:07:14 AM »
Can someone please tell me what the difference is between Conical, Radial (both offer half and Full versions it seems), Classic etc? i understand its the way the wheels are cut out, but why?

Also, do you guys notice much difference between a 99a and a 101a in f4s?
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This is missing radial full but its essentially a radial with wider and bigger contact patch. As for why the different cuts, I can only say, the sidewall cut determines lockability and transition dismount (the ease of reentry that the sidewall allows against the coping). A straighter cut locks in better while a rounder edge lets you come off the grind easier and is easier to get off the ground for scoop tricks since theres less resistance. All this is based off my experience by the way.  The width and contact patch determines stability, slidability (smaller contact patch and width generally slides easier), and weight. The only way to truly know if any of this matters to you is to try them.

99 and 101 definitely has a tangible difference for me. 99 is generally agreed to be a good all around durometer while the 101  felt icy and harsh on rough ground for me but eventually felt normal after breaking them in. 101s felt slightly faster but not enough for me to go with those over 99s in the future.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4259 on: August 10, 2022, 06:01:52 AM »
Thank you Camel Filters!

I am just talking to my homey on the discord about it too and he rides the Conical Full @ 56mm and they seem to be some of the widest wheels that they have, which seems in tune with what I like. I dont like the look of those skinny wheels at all and i also just like the way those fatter wheels feel. I think I just need to figure out what size I want (58mm is too big i get bit too much wheelbite but it i also dont mind it too much, probably 56mm is fine but might go bit smaller) but Conical Full 99a seems to be pretty ideal for me!

the main drawback of my soft 95a OJ wheels is metal edges of skatepark do not slide well AT ALL. Seems like even 99a F4 will handle this no problem.