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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4470 on: October 28, 2022, 07:55:26 AM »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4471 on: November 01, 2022, 09:56:30 AM »
Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
 Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4472 on: November 01, 2022, 11:55:49 AM »
Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
 Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html
I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping) 

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4473 on: November 01, 2022, 05:16:04 PM »
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Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
 Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html
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I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)

You guys overseas are privileged. For euroscum, like me, F4 Spits are almost always 60€\$ everywhere.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4474 on: November 01, 2022, 05:44:33 PM »
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Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
 Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html
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I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)
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You guys overseas are privileged. For euroscum, like me, F4 Spits are almost always 60€\$ everywhere.
In sweden they've been 68€ for awhile and I've seen new wholesale prices, they will be 76€ up to 56 mm, 84 for 57 and up. Dlx boards are 90-100€, Bakerboys 100-110. It's fucked

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4475 on: November 01, 2022, 05:55:35 PM »
Somebody should do a 49.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4476 on: November 01, 2022, 06:04:01 PM »
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Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
 Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html
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I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)

Good point. Think I paid $24 last set.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4477 on: November 01, 2022, 09:10:42 PM »
just ordered 57mm lock ins wish me luck

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4478 on: November 04, 2022, 07:24:55 AM »


Made a couple of runs at wheels >54mm and always switched back. Lately been digging these 56mm AVEs (conical, not full) which pair well with wheel wells. Little less pushing at the park, a little more floating over street crust, feel exactly the same as my 54s on miniramp.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4479 on: November 04, 2022, 08:31:46 AM »


Made a couple of runs at wheels >54mm and always switched back. Lately been digging these 56mm AVEs (conical, not full) which pair well with wheel wells. Little less pushing at the park, a little more floating over street crust, feel exactly the same as my 54s on miniramp.

I grabbed a pair of conicals (not full) and it's definitely been my second favorite shape behind radials. I don't like the super big contact patch full wheels unless it's a cruiser board.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4480 on: November 04, 2022, 08:48:35 AM »
Lil Smokies are back too…bunch of shapes and smaller, too. Stoked.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4481 on: November 04, 2022, 09:13:45 AM »


Made a couple of runs at wheels >54mm and always switched back. Lately been digging these 56mm AVEs (conical, not full) which pair well with wheel wells. Little less pushing at the park, a little more floating over street crust, feel exactly the same as my 54s on miniramp.

Conical regular is I think my current favorite shape. For me they are a little harder to get out of Coping than classics but the smoother faster roll and I lock in on slides and everything else better it’s a fair trade off.

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« Reply #4482 on: November 04, 2022, 09:14:27 AM »
Lil Smokies are back too…bunch of shapes and smaller, too. Stoked.

I skated another wheel brand's small wheels and every time I was on them I would think "man, if Spitfire made this wheel in a F4 it would be killer."

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4483 on: November 04, 2022, 09:33:43 AM »
Dang, so there are 9 shapes in F4 now lol?

Curious about what the riding surface is for radial full 56s.

Normal radials are 21.5 mm and conical full are 25mm so somewhere in between I guess. 23mm?

Radial Full 56mm riding surface is 26mm & the 58mm has a 28mm

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4484 on: November 06, 2022, 08:58:56 AM »
new spitfire drop up on the site

97a radial fulls

Fuck, my Radial Fulls are still fresh but I think I want them in 97A. While my general setup madness is mellowing out, Spitfire is killing me with the last few drops.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4485 on: November 06, 2022, 11:10:42 AM »
but where's the radial slims?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4486 on: November 07, 2022, 07:54:31 AM »
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new spitfire drop up on the site

97a radial fulls
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Fuck, my Radial Fulls are still fresh but I think I want them in 97A. While my general setup madness is mellowing out, Spitfire is killing me with the last few drops.

https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/natural-97d

they got em. and they're on sale too

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4487 on: November 07, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
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new spitfire drop up on the site

97a radial fulls
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Fuck, my Radial Fulls are still fresh but I think I want them in 97A. While my general setup madness is mellowing out, Spitfire is killing me with the last few drops.
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https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/natural-97d

they got em. and they're on sale too

Thanks, really good price but with shipping and customs it'll add up too much (I am in Europe).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4488 on: November 08, 2022, 12:10:26 PM »
have rode these wheels now for about 6 weeks and they have some small chunks out of them. they are so small i cant hear them or feel them yet though, but i imagine once i hit 12-16 weeks it will be more noticble. i have heard spitfire flatspot easily but i have put these through a lot of fs slappys and nothing remotely close to a flat spot. i think that might be contributing to the chunks i have, proably just powerslid into some sharp rocks on the way on to a fs slap. so could be more the way im skating and not so much the wheels too cause i just learnd this trick few weeks ago.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4489 on: November 08, 2022, 04:41:02 PM »
have rode these wheels now for about 6 weeks and they have some small chunks out of them. they are so small i cant hear them or feel them yet though, but i imagine once i hit 12-16 weeks it will be more noticble. i have heard spitfire flatspot easily but i have put these through a lot of fs slappys and nothing remotely close to a flat spot. i think that might be contributing to the chunks i have, proably just powerslid into some sharp rocks on the way on to a fs slap. so could be more the way im skating and not so much the wheels too cause i just learnd this trick few weeks ago.


The original formula definitely had more flatspot issues, but the Formula Four wheels have way fewer problems overall and although I have seen a few sets over the years with flatspots or problems, they are all what I would consider "user error" or not defective, eg nail sticking out of a box took a chunk out of a wheel, board ran under a car and got major flatspots from being dragged, power slides to a dead stop that caused small flatspots, etc.

I guess everything in skateboarding is going to get used, abused, worn and destroyed, but it sure is nice to have things like wheels that tend not to flatspot as much as others.

That is why my pick is Formula Four wheels, but everyone is entitled to make up their own minds too.


More often than not when I hear some older guys or people who have been skating for a while talk about "Shitfire wheels" and saying Spitfires suck, it is more often than not because they had the original formula and not the Formula Four wheels, but sometimes that one set they didn't like will give them an opinion on things for the rest of their life.  Again, not a big deal, but it is funny to hear some people go on about things, when I feel like they know little to nothing about them in the current day and age.


What size and shape are you currently riding?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4490 on: November 09, 2022, 07:27:33 AM »
the Mark Suciu one



53mm conical full 99a

i really wanted to get the normal graphic with this but the skate shop only had the suciu one, but luckily it was the exact shape, size, and duro i wnated anyway. plus Suciu is awesome so why not? great all around wheel. i was worried i might want a 97a which has been hard to find but i am very happy with this duro.

This wheel is a lot more fun for me than my past 2 wheels. OJ 95a feel like i need so much wax to do noseslides and i got a bit tired of constant waxing and sticking. i am probably gonna switch those for dragons next time, it is more of a crusier board setup (9.1" egg, ace 60s). i had bones STF 104a or something wild like that, and it was just way too slippery. some spots were really hard to skate like that, like if you have to make a fast turn. this feels perfect in between. no problem on my slide tricks at all but i can also still turn without slipping all over the place.

i think next time though i would go to 52mm or maybe even smaller. the skate shop had this breana wheel that i considered getting that i think was smaller. fabiana delfino has one in 52 that looks good too.  i am in a location now with much better ground and i want less drag on the slide tricks / easier to pop up to grinds from slides.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4491 on: November 09, 2022, 07:31:30 AM »
56mm 99a F4 Classics are the best wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4492 on: November 09, 2022, 07:34:33 AM »
i have bene skating 56-58mm for a long time maybe just say fuck the dragons and just get a bigger f4 for my cruiser setup. it sounds like dragons will have similar problem to my OJ you need a lot of wax to do noseslides.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4493 on: November 13, 2022, 07:52:17 PM »
I'm on those new 97a 56mm radial fulls, had a few sessions including an indoor skatepark. Definitely adds to the all terrain feel of these in this shape since they're so fat and that slightly softer durometer really smooths things out and makes everything feel less teeth chattering. Little more effort required to slide but it's nothing crazy. Highly recommend em, cheers

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4494 on: November 13, 2022, 08:05:58 PM »
I'm on those new 97a 56mm radial fulls, had a few sessions including an indoor skatepark. Definitely adds to the all terrain feel of these in this shape since they're so fat and that slightly softer durometer really smooths things out and makes everything feel less teeth chattering. Little more effort required to slide but it's nothing crazy. Highly recommend em, cheers

Glad to hear. I really think it was the right call to move that shape to 97a. Must feel like monster truck tires skating on that.

Any more news on their 95a? Honestly seems like that would be too soft, but I'm still curious.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4495 on: November 13, 2022, 09:18:54 PM »
56mm 99a F4 Classics are the best wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4496 on: November 14, 2022, 06:18:00 AM »
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I'm on those new 97a 56mm radial fulls, had a few sessions including an indoor skatepark. Definitely adds to the all terrain feel of these in this shape since they're so fat and that slightly softer durometer really smooths things out and makes everything feel less teeth chattering. Little more effort required to slide but it's nothing crazy. Highly recommend em, cheers
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Glad to hear. I really think it was the right call to move that shape to 97a. Must feel like monster truck tires skating on that.

Any more news on their 95a? Honestly seems like that would be too soft, but I'm still curious.

In this radial full shape, they feel extremely similar to those 60mm OJ 95a's in terms of softening things up, but since these are F4 the slide is unbeatable. I'd say the 95a in F4's is kinda overkill.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4497 on: November 14, 2022, 07:18:40 AM »
Are there any fake Lock-Ins in circulation or is that just Conical Fulls?  I've seen a cheap set on ebay but they look more white rather than natural. 
Is there anything that will give them away as fakes just from looking at them?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4498 on: November 14, 2022, 03:41:50 PM »
Are there any fake Lock-Ins in circulation or is that just Conical Fulls?  I've seen a cheap set on ebay but they look more white rather than natural. 
Is there anything that will give them away as fakes just from looking at them?


At last check, I think there were really only still a few sets / options in the fake ones, Conical Full in blue graphic 99 and red graphic 101 around 52 to 54, along with some other older versions that are mismatched, eg Conical or Radial graphic on a Classic wheel and similar, as well as all those Radial Slims.

As to the colour, a lot of the newer Formula Four Spitfire wheels have been a lot less natural in colour and a lot more pale, almost white, so I think they should be fine - they are brand new wheels and freshly poured is always going to be a bit lighter in colour than something that is months old, especially comparing some I have here that were pre pandemic, to more recent to freshest wheels just out.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #4499 on: November 14, 2022, 06:45:38 PM »
No fake Lock-Ins to my knowledge.

The common ones are 52mm Classics, Conical Full (red / blue), and 54mm Radial Slims (shaped like classics).
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