Spitfire formula four

[Mbrimson88]

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what benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?

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can get a larger contact patch w/a smaller wheel

@Mbrimson88 knows all about this, can speak to this more

Ha yeah, probably said too much in reality, but at least everyone has it covered on here.

This was the post on the previous page with pictures re Conical shape has a sharp edge and Classics / Radials have a rounded edge.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3957225#msg3957225

[fulfillthedream]

thanks for the feedback! gonna try the 54mm conical 99a after work today before seeing my gf for the usual valentines day dinner!

[Frank and Fred]

thanks for the feedback! gonna try the 54mm conical 99a after work today before seeing my gf for the usual valentines day dinner!

Hope you find that desired slip to grip ratio on this special day.

[Mbrimson88]

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For those Australian people keen on Spitfires, the latest wheels are here and already in a few places like ebay and sellers sites, OCD and Basement Skate the two I have seen so far, but as others round the world are saying, they have gone up considerably again and are now up to $89 for normal Formula Four up to 56mm and $94 or so for bigger sizes, anything 57mm and up.


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/collections/spitfire


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/spitfire-f4-wilson-death-roll-conical-full-54mm-99a-skateboard-wheels

SPITFIRE - F4 WILSON DEATH ROLL CONICAL FULL 54MM 99A SKATEBOARD WHEELS
$89.00


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/spitfire-f4-lock-ins-57mm-99a-skateboard-wheels

SPITFIRE - F4 LOCK INS 57MM 99A SKATEBOARD WHEELS
$94.00


https://www.basementskate.com.au/spitfire-skateboard-wheels-f4-conical-full-54mm-99a-wilson/

Spitfire Skateboard Wheels F4 Conical Full 54mm 99a Wilson
$89.00


Can't wait to see wheels get to or over the $100 mark here.

Stock up while you can on the current or old stock anyway.

[yghartsyrt]

fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

[scab]

fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

What size & duro are you looking for? I've been looking around a lot lately, maybe I've seen something you'd like for the old price (~60€).

[BALARGUE]

fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

F4 OG Classics 55mm are my go to (and they really feel similar to conical fulls)
and here at least they are still around 60€

[Nacho Maildrop]

fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.

If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.

[camel filters]

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fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

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I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.

If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.

Wait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?

[Nacho Maildrop]

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fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

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I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.

If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.

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Wait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?

The prevailing rumor is that NFG is done. Loophole still exists, but wheels being offered in 99a and 101a (rather than 95a and 52d) point to different factory.

I would love to be wrong, though.

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fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

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I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.

If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.

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Wait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?

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The prevailing rumor is that NFG is done. Loophole still exists, but wheels being offered in 99a and 101a (rather than 95a and 52d) point to different factory.

I would love to be wrong, though.

Ah thats a shame. I had a set of the v cut loopholes. The shape was a bit too aggressively square for me but the urethane felt nice.

[Síota]

Polar has spitfires for €60 on thier site. If anyone needs em

[yghartsyrt]

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fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

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What size & duro are you looking for? I've been looking around a lot lately, maybe I've seen something you'd like for the old price (~60€).

thanks i found some at various smaller shops like pivot, shrn and such. but the supply dwindles.

this means, i still need to look into an alternative. So, any recs are much appreciated especially with mfg/loophole rumouur that was mentioned in this thread

[Mbrimson88]

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fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?

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I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.

My thoughts on Spitfire Formula Four wheels as well.  I would rather get the product I know and trust (and can usually find with some sort of discount or % off sale) than try to ride something that is cheaper and just doesn't hold up half as well.

Others I know have had a whinge about the prices before things went right up, but you get what you pay for.

Trying other wheels for half the price usually don't even last half as long and people end up hating them, whereas getting something that works, that lasts as long as it does and keeps me happy is way more cost effective in the long run.

That's me anyway...

[yghartsyrt]

Yeah, probably the most possible scenario isthat I’ll end up paying 70 euro for f4 somewhere down the road. Sucks nevertheless paying so much for wheels.

Good alternatives would still be cool such as the loopholes - I hope the rumor is not true

[munchbox]

the wheel hoarders were ahead of the curve
end times when wheels cost more than decks

[MC3]

Im bummed i didnt buy those all black AVE 56mm conical fulls that came out a bit ago. Ive wanted either black or orange wheels for a while now and thats my go to size and shape and theyre sold out everywhere

[DERBY]

Im bummed i didnt buy those all black AVE 56mm conical fulls that came out a bit ago. Ive wanted either black or orange wheels for a while now and thats my go to size and shape and theyre sold out everywhere

were they the regular conicals? if so they’ve got some in canada idk if you’re down with that tho

[MC3]

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Im bummed i didnt buy those all black AVE 56mm conical fulls that came out a bit ago. Ive wanted either black or orange wheels for a while now and thats my go to size and shape and theyre sold out everywhere

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were they the regular conicals? if so they’ve got some in canada idk if you’re down with that tho

My bad they are the regular conicals. I wonder what the shipping would be on that…

[DERBY]

all good. here’s some links to try

https://thinkempire.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-ave-chrome-conical-black-skateboard-wheels-2022?variant=42368941555901&currency=CAD&utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_content=Spitfire+Formula+Four+Ave+Chrome+Conical+Black+Skateboard+Wheels+%7C+EMPIRE&gclid=Cj0KCQiArsefBhCbARIsAP98hXQTqv-KWOxNxRXtDYal6ZYONVq944Xfi_dnqYHc2ioXAm7OUr1_6-0aAnmjEALw_wcB


https://www.sourceboards.com/products/spitfire-f4-conical-ave-chrome-black-99a-wheels-56mm?pr_prod_strat=collection_fallback&pr_rec_id=eee224446&pr_rec_pid=6748109701200&pr_ref_pid=6703740289104&pr_seq=uniform

[IpathCats]

I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.

Did I just buy fakes?

I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.

But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.

[roll_dog]

I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.

Did I just buy fakes?

I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.

But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.

nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.

[IpathCats]

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I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.

Did I just buy fakes?

I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.

But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.

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nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.

Sick, thanks.

Gnar'd for quelling my gear paranoia

[Mbrimson88]

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I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.

Did I just buy fakes?

I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.

But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.

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nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.

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Sick, thanks.

Are they the standard graphic or a special graphic?

I know they do special graphics in 53mm Radials a fair bit, eg the orange camo colour set I had and more recently the L Baker pro model, red or blue graphic.

It's funny how many "in between" sizes pop up for special releases, like the Andrew Allen 55mm Conical Full wheels.

People were tripping on those things when they came out - they skate more like the 56 than the 54mm size though, just like the Radials in 53mm feel closer to 54 than 52mm, when people ask about them.

Nice little wheel too.

[rocklobster]

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I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.

Did I just buy fakes?

I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.

But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.

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nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.

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Sick, thanks.

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Are they the standard graphic or a special graphic?

I know they do special graphics in 53mm Radials a fair bit, eg the orange camo colour set I had and more recently the L Baker pro model, red or blue graphic.

It's funny how many "in between" sizes pop up for special releases, like the Andrew Allen 55mm Conical Full wheels.

People were tripping on those things when they came out - they skate more like the 56 than the 54mm size though, just like the Radials in 53mm feel closer to 54 than 52mm, when people ask about them.

Nice little wheel too.

53mm seems to be their least popular size, my guess is they print pro / special release graphics on shapes / graphics they have excess stock of.

[WideFeet]

I love the riding surface and how my flip tricks are on the Classic shape, but like how Conicals are shaped for locking into grinds.

Would anyone else like to see a Conical Slim shape?

Basically, a similar shape to a Bones V5 shape. I’ve skated the V5’s. They’re great. Just not the same performance of a Formula 4.

[rocklobster]

I love the riding surface and how my flip tricks are on the Classic shape, but like how Conicals are shaped for locking into grinds.

Would anyone else like to see a Conical Slim shape?

Basically, a similar shape to a Bones V5 shape. I’ve skated the V5’s. They’re great. Just not the same performance of a Formula 4.

Radial Slims are as close as you'll get to a Conical Slim, inward cut like a Conical, curved edge like a Classic.

Classics - 52 x 32 x 15.5
Radial Slim - 52 x 30 x 18.5
V5 - 52 x 30 x 14.5
Conical - 52 x 31.5 x 19.5
Conical Full - 52 x 32.25 x 21

[Frank and Fred]

Are F4 prices trending up everywhere? Seeing more places selling them for $40 to $45 a set?

[Xen]

Are F4 prices trending up everywhere? Seeing more places selling them for $40 to $45 a set?

I noticed this as well. Just nabbed two sets of classics (chroma yellow, and glow) at the low low price of $39.99

[Frank and Fred]

Permission to panic buy please...?