Spitfire formula four

[tuesday]

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Anyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?

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Titus still has them in 54 and 52

www.skatedeluxe.com has them too. In 52, 53, 54.

[BALARGUE]

Anyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?

i can't say where if you are in the US
But the F4 Classic Full Repeater seems to be mislabelled as classic here (France) when i ordered them from the distributor
Got them at the shop and you find legitimately "Classic Full" on the packaging

these wheels:
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/repeater-classic-full-formula-four-wheels-99a-54mm-42-6889927934031/

edit: sorry i'm late

[shawngreg]

got myself a new deck to skate and for some reason im having wheel madness.  i have a worn down pair of 54mm classics, a brand new set of 52mm OG classics, and some 54mm radial slims.  all are f4 99s.  i skate classics usually, ive skated conicals and conical fulls but never the OG classics in f4, and ive never tried radial slims.  i'm thinking about trying the radials as like a sort of middle ground but not really lol.  any opinions?

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I do think conical full and og classics pretty much feel the same (conical full have a rounder edge and smaller contact patch though but the difference is not that big)

Radial slim is a thinner wheel, rounded edge similar to og classics. I would say they are the perfect middle ground between classic and og classic/conical full

see for yourself hé

feedback based on my experience with these 3 shapes and having them brand new in front of me

[144p]

Also as an observation in the past couple videos from limosine, frog, Daniel dent, wknd they skate crust. The kids here are way more interested in finding something weird to ride on grind/drop in than skate the ledge spot. Big wide wheels facilitate that.
They always go with the kids. Not the 30somethings with board madness. The wide wheel trend will continue for a while.

[elegant_fox]

I just picked up some f4 classics in 53mm/101a and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I expected to. I got them for a lighter and smaller street setup since I’m normally on 56mm+.

They are noticeably slower on anything that isn’t glassy, but it’s not unbearable and they have great feel for a hard wheel.

[Xen]

I just picked up some f4 classics in 53mm/101a and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I expected to. I got them for a lighter and smaller street setup since I’m normally on 56mm+.

They are noticeably slower on anything that isn’t glassy, but it’s not unbearable and they have great feel for a hard wheel.

Once you get used to F4s it's pretty tough switching out to anything else.

[elegant_fox]

 :'(

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I just picked up some f4 classics in 53mm/101a and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I expected to. I got them for a lighter and smaller street setup since I’m normally on 56mm+.

They are noticeably slower on anything that isn’t glassy, but it’s not unbearable and they have great feel for a hard wheel.

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Once you get used to F4s it's pretty tough switching out to anything else.

Yeah, I could see that becoming a thing once you’ve got things on lock. Right now I’m rotating between Bones x97, dragons, and F4.

I had been chilling the F4s since they hurt to skate, but I’ve since fixed my pop to not be as jarring and added cupsoles, so they’re back on the menu now. Only drawback is they’re not great skate to spot wheels.

[Xen]

Don't get me wrong, I love the way x97s skate, but they are very very spot specific wheel for me. If I can skate an f4 99 I will.

Totally agree, x97s are perfect for skating spot to spot. If I'm driving to something that f4s can handle that's what I'll use (unless its crust then I'll bring the x97s).

Shape-wise the V5 and classics are close enough where they don't feel different other than the rebound/speed on certain terrain.

[swellbowed]

New Max Palmer Spitfire's 

[goodatmeth]

New Max Palmer Spitfire's 

Are those just conical fulls? They look kind of extra full. Conical obese

[IpathCats]

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New Max Palmer Spitfire's 

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Are those just conical fulls? They look kind of extra full. Conical obese

I thought they looked a bit extra chonky too.

[rawbertson.]

hoping these are 97a!

[144p]

No they’re 99.
Conical full 53,55

[rawbertson.]

No they’re 99.
Conical full 53,55

i figured. even if 97 is more likely what max would ride i think 99a is what most consumers want in their wheel.

[goodatmeth]

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No they’re 99.
Conical full 53,55

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i figured. even if 97 is more likely what max would ride i think 99a is what most consumers want in their wheel.

Is he actually riding the 97a? That would be a major ad for the wheels. Seems like he's sliding/grinding too well for that, but I'm sure he could pull it off somehow

[rawbertson.]

i have no idea what he actually rides. I am a fan but i dont know his skating as well as i know others either. he can likely get by with 99a where he is at so that also just makes sense too. Reynolds definitely has said before on the 9 club he rides 97a. I am pretty sure most GX1000 guys are also on 97a. Jeff Carlyle's wheel was a 97a. you can tell by how they slow down on their powerslides that they are a little grippier than 99s.

What I have heard as well is most skaters just ride whatever they are given , they dont have a hell of a lot of say in things like wheels and trucks. just the shape+size  (not the graphic / colours though). If you wax the spot a fuck ton, the soft duro of the wheel doesnt even matter. i have slid miles on 58mm 95a before once i lathered on the wax. i do think having harder duro is more condusive for it though 100%

[shpongle]

I’ll probably just keep rocking them. I can’t feel anything different when I skate them. I wanted to try a wider wheel which why I got them. I still have my classics if I need to switch back. Thanks!

Noticed the exact same thing on mines last night lol. I think it might be from this homemade diy metal ledge that has a sharp edge and rips chunks off my wheels. My only hypothesis as to what happened.

[pizzafliptofakie]

I'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?


I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.

[rawbertson.]

i really need to try classics
i am just so used to conical full at this point i honestly dont evne know what anything else feels like

[El Freegano]

I used to skate classics starting from 54 and love then when they 51 with wider contact patch. Now i wanted to get something 52 coz i went on lower trucks and was inbetween trying conical full, but i like the round edge and by accident i ordered classic full (which i thought were classic). I havent tried them yet, but i like the fact they are small diameter and with wider contact patch. I think radials will be good too.

[Pasta Monster]

I try different shapes but always come back to Classics. Conical Fulls are great for crusty spots and transition, so I use them on 8.5”+.

I’m about to set up some 52mm Radial Slims for the first time on my main board by the weekend. Hopefully, I don’t like them better than Classics because they’re not being produced at the moment.

F4 Classic Fulls and F4 OG Classics are on my to-try list but I may have missed the opportunity to buy them domestically.

[IpathCats]

i really need to try classics
i am just so used to conical full at this point i honestly dont evne know what anything else feels like

I'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?


I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.

Classics are the best, for me anyway.

[rawbertson.]

I would like to know, who is actaully riding Tablets? Shane O'Neil? Is this wheel made for like Dave Mayhew Storm Era skateboarding?

It seems like Radials are a good in between of Conical Full and Classics. Because there is less riding surface, that would indicate to me that it would be a little easier to put the board up on 2 wheels. for the type of skating I do, I probably am not benefitting much from having conical fulls. its probably adding a decent amount of weight to my wheels too that i dont need.

do the wheel shapes affect wheelbite at all do you think? being able to go on the side of the wheel more, does that prevent biting more?

[Frank and Fred]

Wheel shape absolutely impacts wheel bite potential.

[backside_frontside]

do the wheel shapes affect wheelbite at all do you think? being able to go on the side of the wheel more, does that prevent biting more?

I've ridden classic, conical, radial and they all wheelbite. So I'd say nah.

[Frank and Fred]

Of course it does, a wider. squarer wheel will provide more surface area for the deck to hit.

All other things being the same (wheel height, truck and deck size) a classic will have a lower amount of wheel bite potential than conical full.

[Pasta Monster]

Of course it does, a wider. squarer wheel will provide more surface area for the deck to hit.

All other things being the same (wheel height, truck and deck size) a classic will have a lower amount of wheel bite potential than conical full.

The wheelbite from Classics tend to be deeper with a smaller diameter compared to Conical Full which is the opposite. [I mainly skate Thunder Hollow Lights with Team baseplates. YMMV]

[IpathCats]

Wheel shape absolutely impacts wheel bite potential.

True

Classics dont bite as easily as raddials/conical/fulls because they are more narrow

And when they do bite, its not as hard because the edges are so round

[pizzafliptofakie]

I skate loose Thunders so wheelbite is sorta inevitable for me, but it is noticeably more jarring on my Conical Fulls.