Spitfire formula four

[typeischeap]

Everyone loves the OGs. It's the god shape.

I'm not everyone but they effectively cured my wheel madness. Or maybe trying every shape last year did that, lol.

[munchbox]

dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?

[tzhangdox]

dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?

Quite square, more so than a conical. My only gripe. If they rounded out the lip more like a radial and decreased the riding surface (so its more like a bones v5) I'd be so hyped

[Rick Trapasso]

dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?

Been a while since i've held some but iirc they almost appear to be beveled on the inside edge then it sort of smooths out towards the outside edge

pretty decent up close pics here

https://thepremierstore.com/products/formula-four-99-og-classic-58mm?variant=32355535061057&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2018-09-29&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPnWxnptRqf0YLZa0u6HgBuQ_OYNsyxGB8FV9Wj3U_hGMTUGxhT7YdhoCxCQQAvD_BwE

[Xen]

Do they not make the OG classics in 101? Might have to just dip for 101 conicals or STF 103 V5s.

[Mbrimson88]

Do they not make the OG classics in 101? Might have to just dip for 101 conicals or STF 103 V5s.

No, just the original formula and the Formula Four 99s.

dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?

When I saw them in person, they were thinner overall than I first thought and a little more square than almost anything else besides Tablets from the Spitfire wheel range.

Then when I skated some, they skated well and I didn't have any issues, so although I thought they might have been a bit too square, they worked well.

Once they wore down some, they did get very sharp on the edge, but I am used to angle grinding the edges to round them off some more.  Might not quite be something most people could see as an easy alternative to Conical Full, or even just normal Conical shaped wheels, but they are quite popular and people like the graphic on them too, the swirl indented rather than on the whole face of the wheel or the smaller black ring on the other side with the info on them.

Funny how a graphic can sell a wheel so well in some cases.

[Frank and Fred]

Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?

[tzhangdox]

Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?

Relatively slim profile with a wide contact patch, cutaway in the middle so a little lighter.

For me I mostly like the swirl graphic that doesnt fade because of the cutaway. Personally would prefer a more rounded lip like a radial or something at the expense of less riding surface. Its not my favourite shape but its good

[moonordie]

Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?

In my case skating came little easier to me. Lock in was great and the overall feel was amazing.

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Relatively slim profile with a wide contact patch, cutaway in the middle so a little lighter.

For me I mostly like the swirl graphic that doesnt fade because of the cutaway. Personally would prefer a more rounded lip like a radial or something at the expense of less riding surface. Its not my favourite shape but its good

what is your favorite shape?

[flintstagram]

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In my case skating came little easier to me. Lock in was great and the overall feel was amazing.

Word. They just feel good. They look cool and they lock in well, and for whatever reason all of my tricks just feel better. Probably because they’re a hair lighter than conical fulls. I don’t like hollow trucks because they feel weird, but a slightly lighter wheel than confull feels good.

[intendedreceivers]

Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?

Best way I can describe it is they’re a very stable-feeling wheel, lots of ground contact, lots of leverage to turn, but lighter than most wheels that give you those things. I feel like the square-ish profile locks in nicely and gives good feedback.

[Frank and Fred]

Nice. I can never commit to one shape. For years I did not really care so much about wheel shape but these days, I go back and fore way too much. Flip tricks are def better on classics but I like a  wider contact patch for the terrain up here in the PNW. Square wheels like Conical Fulls and OG Classics are great on transition but in bigger sizes are more prone to wheel bite and sluggish flips. Currently on some Locks ins which are a nice compromise but I really like rotating wheels as they wear. I have radials in the pile also, in the quest for a good all rounder.

My fav wheel of the last decade was actually a set of 58mm classics I took down to about 50mm. So essentially a Classic full by the time they were 54mm. Great shape as they wore.

[Xen]

Man, they used to drop massive amounts of pro wheels way back:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irnsuperior.com%2Fcatalog%2Fcatalog%2Fsf-spring15-drop2.pdf&psig=AOvVaw05Epq3G9njhmu_7PTh4TJh&ust=1704918387260000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCJCo-4mS0YMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAS

[munchbox]

classic full sizing for anyone interested
or future search purposes


seems like the available equivalent is the normal radials

[Mbrimson88]

classic full sizing for anyone interested
or future search purposes


seems like the available equivalent is the normal radials

* Sorry if this sounds like a whinge - not meant to be, just information to share.



I had posted about this before, mainly because it is something I am a little bit OCD about, but I find it a bit annoying they have never fixed the charts and everything say the same thing, that Classic Full wheels are barely wider than the normal Classic wheels, which in fact for the 56 and 58 mm sizes is not true, as I have lots of both and really used to only ride the 56 mm Classic Full wheels on my normal board, with the 58 mm on bigger setups. 

They are closer to / wider than the Conical Full overall widths in those bigger sizes.


That said, this is a post from a while back:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg4002140#msg4002140


 If you were looking for anything 54 mm or under, they are not that different, but 56 mm and 58 mm Classic Full wheels are a lot wider overall, as per the pics from the wheel listings.

I prefer the 56 mm size more as a transition / all rounder, but the smaller ones are good for small street / tech stuff, in the same way normal Classic 54 mm wear down a mm or two and widen out nicely.


Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:

52       33       18
53       33.5    18.5
54       34       19
54.5    35       19.5
56       37       22.5
58       38       24


*  The 54.5 were the Cardiel specials, just in case anyone was confused.

[Banned from the room]

Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?

It's main benefit is the graphic.

That black line is perfection. I think it's on the lock in. Definitely something similar. I had to let a homie know more than once that they're skating them backwards cuz they wanted the fresh graphic out.

The og spiral is the best version of the spiral too. I feel the same as ba. The classic spiral is too big. I can't grind 50% of it off fast enough.

Performance wise

They have a large contact patch and they are light
I think it's the third lightest shape. After classic and tabs. I assume the tabs.

They have a rounded edge it stays rounded for at least 5mm.  Flipping the board is easy with 58mm ogs. Easier than with 54 radial fulls. Wheels are really close in shape but it's noticeable.

The 58mm og is hands down the best shape in skatebloarding.
 I imagine because it's shaped similar to slime balls. That wheel was so sick.

The radial is my second favorite. I believe because the OG is basically a radial that weighs less cuz of the side cuts.

Classic 3rd after it's nice and warn down.

Og is perfect for the duration of the wheel.

[rocklobster]

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It's main benefit is the graphic.

Dude's got a point, unintrusive and doesn't scrape off after 1 session.

[Frank and Fred]

Alright Uncle Flea you convinced me.

[rikki]

I used to skate OG Classics, but I've since grown to like rounder edge and narrower wheels. Sharper edge wheels feel somehow clunky and heavy for me. Radial is an awesome all-rounder, but maybe just a tad too wide for my taste once I step out of the pool. Hence, just ordered my first set of Classics in a long while. Feeling them already.

The Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.

Plus, give us back the Radial Slim already, jeez.

[moonordie]

The Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.

Exactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.

[rikki]

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The Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.

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Exactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.

X99? You're gonna love 'em.

[moonordie]

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The Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.

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Exactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.

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X99? You're gonna love 'em.

Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

[rikki]

Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

This is skateboarding.

[moonordie]

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Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

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This is skateboarding.

As an unsponsored adult

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Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

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This is skateboarding.

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As an unsponsored adult

i don’t have the largest ice chest, but i do have waaaaaaay too many experiments setup.

now i want these v5s. i had resolved to try the x97s, feeling like the f4 99s are excellent for what they are, and only wanting something different for really bad roads.

[Banned from the room]

Alright Uncle Flea you convinced me.

I'm telling yah won't be disappointed.

Not that spit can even be disappointing. Except when you're bloard gets run over and the flat spot

[Xen]

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Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

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This is skateboarding.

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As an unsponsored adult

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i don’t have the largest ice chest, but i do have waaaaaaay too many experiments setup.

now i want these v5s. i had resolved to try the x97s, feeling like the f4 99s are excellent for what they are, and only wanting something different for really bad roads.

V5s really are the best shape. Thin-ish, cut-away light, decent riding surface and locks in so nice; however, Spit conicals are very close.

I'm trying to find some regs old STF 103s, so hard to find them, everything is x99 or spits.

[rikki]

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Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board

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This is skateboarding.

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As an unsponsored adult

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i don’t have the largest ice chest, but i do have waaaaaaay too many experiments setup.

now i want these v5s. i had resolved to try the x97s, feeling like the f4 99s are excellent for what they are, and only wanting something different for really bad roads.

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V5s really are the best shape. Thin-ish, cut-away light, decent riding surface and locks in so nice; however, Spit conicals are very close.

I'm trying to find some regs old STF 103s, so hard to find them, everything is x99 or spits.

You're right of course, Spitfire Conicals are quite close to V5 shape-wise, albeit a bit wider, especially when the wheel size gets larger. But still, the V5 hits a weird sweet spot for me, even if it's a question of a few millimeters.

[Ant]

All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.

Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.