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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5730 on: March 03, 2024, 07:44:45 PM »
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After a winter of being on some dragons at the indoor, I put on an old set of 97a radial fulls since I'm too broke to try the x97's right now and they feel amazing. Nothing like some broken-in potato F4's. All these newer ones are white, what's up with that?
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Yeah...my last set of 99a lockins (from the last drop) were REALLY white by F4 standards...

Next to new (probably new old stock tho) spit classics; they also felt muuuuuch harder than my 99a black conicals


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Someone should DM thiebaud and ask if they're putting white dye in them now lol. I actually don't mind white wheels, it's just when it comes to F4's specifically, their signature schtick isn't just the performance, but that natural urethane color which sets them apart. Especially when they were first released because no one else was doing it. Then Bones started using a shade of dye to make them look like natural urethane lol.
They have to be. My Lock-In Fulls are white, not off white like the other ones.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5731 on: March 03, 2024, 09:50:08 PM »
Slide better than the 97s for sure. I would choose the 93 over the 97.

You got me going now. I believe you. I love softer wheels. Spent a good partof my life relying on them to get arounf the city once Beloved the raleigh chopper passed away. Was a reissue all aluminum frame too. Custom seat. Now its the center piece of a garden. I lost two West coast chopper bikes right before that. And i had given my vintage 26" to brother Joe ACAB. Soft wheels and ceramics was a mando move.

Im head over heels for my 97a 58mm Conical Full. It seems like the best wheel ive ever had in my life. Second being the Radial Full in 54.

Itd be sick if they did did like powell and reissued a few old wheel shapes. You know for the OGs. Limited thing. DO like smokies for the 90s cats. With the modern shapes.
I feel like the wider shapes will perform best..
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ive ridden 4 different wheel shapes on my 5.8s

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The wider 97s up stay with wheel corners on the edge of the inside opposite true lock. Its a fine line. A fine fine line.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5732 on: March 03, 2024, 10:03:52 PM »
So are regular radials like worn down classics?

I want like a worn in 55mm classic, would a 53 radial be like this or should I just get some classics and skate them down?

exactly that. The og Classic feels pretty much that too. Wide contact rounded edge. Og is a worn classic with weight relief in my minds wheel chart. 
I think the Radial regs comes in 57mm as the tallest size i think. Id skate the shit outa that thing.

Im 110% a OG/Coni Pal as my first choice shape. I like to grind. the friction free side cut is all flat bars best friend for especially cross locks on flat bars. Pool coping too i believe. Radials have a tendency to throw me up on the deck until the wheels been grinded flat on the inside part. same with curved ledges. Id prob go lock in 57mm as my third choice these days

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5733 on: March 10, 2024, 09:46:07 AM »
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending

some new stuff (Spring drop 2?):
52 mm Classsic - Jerry Hsu
53/56 mm Conical Full - Breanna
54 mm Conical - Sci-Fi Fantasy

OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5734 on: March 10, 2024, 05:44:12 PM »
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So are regular radials like worn down classics?

I want like a worn in 55mm classic, would a 53 radial be like this or should I just get some classics and skate them down?
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exactly that. The og Classic feels pretty much that too. Wide contact rounded edge. Og is a worn classic with weight relief in my minds wheel chart. 
I think the Radial regs comes in 57mm as the tallest size i think. Id skate the shit outa that thing.

Im 110% a OG/Coni Pal as my first choice shape. I like to grind. the friction free side cut is all flat bars best friend for especially cross locks on flat bars. Pool coping too i believe. Radials have a tendency to throw me up on the deck until the wheels been grinded flat on the inside part. same with curved ledges. Id prob go lock in 57mm as my third choice these days


I like Classics when they are down a mm or two as well, which definitely feels a lot like Radials with that added width and slightly more grab on to coping.

Others I skate with don't like how easily Classics or any rounded edge wheel get on and off coping or edges, so they are more in the OG Classic / Conical Full and sometimes even Tablet type of wheel, but I guess anything with more of a sharper edge on top, often with a wider surface, but more commonly with a cutaway to the inside of the wheel, which is the main difference between any of those and the Classic / Radial shapes, which are more rounded from the bearing through to the outside edge.

As to which wheel is better, if you can get your hands on Radials in 53 or 54 mm sizes, sure, but if all you have access to is Classics, then a 54 to 55 mm classic might take a bit longer to wear down / given you a longer life of wheel anyway, but at some point, it will feel much more like a Radial as you wear them down.


OG Classics / Conical shaped wheels get really sharp on the edges after wearing down a few mm, which is why I use a grinder and round off the sharp bits on older wheels to recycle them into decent smaller wheels.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5736 on: March 11, 2024, 01:07:41 AM »

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Shame they don't make more size options for each color.

Sticking to even numbers 52 / 54 /56 makes sense from a SKU perspective, 53 and to a lesser extent 55 are less popular and always on clearance so it'd make sense for them to shrink their product range.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5737 on: March 11, 2024, 09:48:55 AM »

Sticking to even numbers 52 / 54 /56 makes sense from a SKU perspective, 53 and to a lesser extent 55 are less popular and always on clearance so it'd make sense for them to shrink their product range.

That's different sizing, I want more colors in the same size :) I'd jump on some 52s if they were blue.

Anyone find these at a reasonable price? USD $54.58 (including shipping) is not happening.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5738 on: March 12, 2024, 08:24:03 AM »
so are big beatdowns just XL sized special run classics?
lol 66mm wheel, better have double risers for that on indy standard

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5739 on: March 12, 2024, 01:44:29 PM »
Any wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?

Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5740 on: March 12, 2024, 02:11:11 PM »
Any wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?

Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).

As a wide contact patch enjoyer, I always hate regular classics when they're new. The narrow contact patch is really narrow and I can't stand it until the wheel wears down a reasonable amount. I'm a big fan of Radials because they feel like a worn down Classic right out of the box without being crazy square like Conicals.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5741 on: March 12, 2024, 02:21:27 PM »
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Any wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?

Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).
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As a wide contact patch enjoyer, I always hate regular classics when they're new. The narrow contact patch is really narrow and I can't stand it until the wheel wears down a reasonable amount. I'm a big fan of Radials because they feel like a worn down Classic right out of the box without being crazy square like Conicals.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5742 on: March 12, 2024, 04:24:48 PM »
so are big beatdowns just XL sized special run classics?
lol 66mm wheel, better have double risers for that on indy standard


Sure are.

I think the pic has been posted before, so just the link this time, but at 41.3 wide with 25.6 riding surface, they are a big and wide wheel all up, more like the Classic Full or Bighead overall dimensions, for anyone who has had those before, especially the original Bighead in 63 mm, not the new slimmer shape ones that are out now.

Fun?  Gimmick?  Crazy?   Could be all of them, but I know from seeing other similar sized wheels, they can be so good to skate too, usually on 1/2" risers like an 80s board.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring24/05-sf-sp24-d1.jpg




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Any wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?

Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).
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As a wide contact patch enjoyer, I always hate regular classics when they're new. The narrow contact patch is really narrow and I can't stand it until the wheel wears down a reasonable amount. I'm a big fan of Radials because they feel like a worn down Classic right out of the box without being crazy square like Conicals.
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I would be going for Radial over Classic too, if you were more used to OG Classics or wider profile wheels.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5743 on: March 12, 2024, 05:47:32 PM »
A buddy of mine rides for our local shop and got a sample set of the new 93a formula. Forgot to get pictures but his are 54mm classic shape, had the graphic like lil smokies minus the flame head and had 93a formula four on it. I only skated them for a few minutes but first impressions are good. They feel kinda similar to the the f4 97a, more of a hard wheel feel rather than the softer feel of dragons. They held speed really well and even felt a bit faster than f4 97a imo. Did a couple power slides on them too and they break into slides without having to dig in too hard. I just pumped around the bowl and skated some transition so didn't get to feel how they felt on pinched grinds or on rough ground. According to my friend he hasn't had problems with grinds and said they go over crust great. If the production sets turn out like these or better, spitfire has something really good cooked up. These will definitely fill the void for people who want to try dragon type wheels but are loyal to spitfire.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5744 on: March 12, 2024, 07:39:14 PM »
Sounds ideal and likely a better option than the 97s. Thanks for review.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5745 on: March 12, 2024, 09:00:11 PM »
Definitely sounds good.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5746 on: March 12, 2024, 10:53:26 PM »
every now and then i contemplate trying og classics
why would i like them more than radials?
comparing both sizes in 52mm
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5747 on: March 12, 2024, 10:53:38 PM »
My friend at the local shop got a set of 56 radial 93as. Only rolled around out front in them. I’d say they feel soft for sure, much softer and smoother than a 97a. Slide great. Feel kinda like a dragon but more spitfire-y if that makes sense, which in my opinion is definitely a good thing

Didn’t test drag, speed and smoothness side to side with other wheels on different terrain. But if they’re not too grabby, and aren’t too gummy on smooth surfaces, could be a great option

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5748 on: March 13, 2024, 01:00:56 AM »
every now and then i contemplate trying og classics
why would i like them more than radials?
comparing both sizes in 52mm

I didn’t but hey I like a rounded edge, need a wheel I can bonk.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5749 on: March 13, 2024, 01:29:17 AM »
Rounded edge rules, I feel they are more versatile as wheels. Plus my old ass feet seem to get sore quicker with clunky sharp edge wheels.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5750 on: March 13, 2024, 03:00:46 AM »
Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5751 on: March 13, 2024, 07:10:12 AM »
My friend at the local shop got a set of 56 radial 93as. Only rolled around out front in them. I’d say they feel soft for sure, much softer and smoother than a 97a. Slide great. Feel kinda like a dragon but more spitfire-y if that makes sense, which in my opinion is definitely a good thing

Didn’t test drag, speed and smoothness side to side with other wheels on different terrain. But if they’re not too grabby, and aren’t too gummy on smooth surfaces, could be a great option

A more spitefire-y dragon sounds about right haha. Fwiw my local park that I tried them out at is really smooth and they didn't have that soft cruiser board feel like dragons do there.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5752 on: March 13, 2024, 09:27:27 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5753 on: March 13, 2024, 09:31:48 AM »
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Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
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I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.

https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform
Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5754 on: March 13, 2024, 10:11:49 AM »
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Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
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I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.

https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform
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Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27
The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5755 on: March 13, 2024, 10:16:51 PM »
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Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
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I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.

https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform
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Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27
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The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.


Everywhere actually, newest drop now being another 10% or more on top of what they were before, so for Australia, that is now from $80 - $90 to then $90 to $100 and now looking at $100 to $110 for the next lot.

I guess it is just one of those things - everything is going up - but for some people I can understand that starts to make things unaffordable for them.

At least looking for any sale, percentage off discount or whatever else, eg online coupons, now become even more important to get things for less, even ebay 15% off or something really makes a big difference when they have those sales too.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5756 on: March 14, 2024, 05:49:04 AM »
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Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
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I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.

https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform
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Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27
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The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.

new releases are 75€ in France :-\

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5757 on: March 14, 2024, 06:08:04 AM »
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Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
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I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.

https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform
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Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27
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The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.
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new releases are 75€ in France :-\
I was bugging about them going for $45-50 but some shops in the US are still selling for $40. If someone is buying 3+ pairs of SFs, it’s sadly cheaper to get them shipped from an American store.

Maybe, DLX can eventually expand to pouring wheels in China to reduce costs for the rest of the world. If I had to pay 75 euros, I would only skate 58-60 mm to get my money’s worth.

Were colors always a thing with F4? Outside of pro wheels, I never saw colored wheels in catalogs or in bigger shops.



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5758 on: March 14, 2024, 06:47:21 AM »


Maybe, DLX can eventually expand to pouring wheels in China to reduce costs for the rest of the world. If I had to pay 75 euros, I would only skate 58-60 mm to get my money’s worth.



my man i've been doing just that for the last 5 years when they were like 50 euros

bones x formula wheels looking kinda nice rn

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5759 on: March 14, 2024, 06:52:23 AM »
Fuck me I just saw that the big beatdowns are 85 euro in France. Thank fuck I skate 52's and have a few sets.

Source of the price:
https://vegaskateshop.fr/shop/skateboard/roues/roue-street/roues-skateboard-spitfire-formula-4-big-beatdowns-62mm-99a/