Spitfire formula four

[Paco Supreme]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Dave’s voice before.

Good take on the wheels, looking forward to when these are available down here in like 6 months.

Might make my excuses for not skating seem less true.

[FunnyBunny]

So I think one major complaint of the dragons has been that they grab a bit when grinding Metal, like coping or a flatbar ….i’m curious as to if the 93 spitfires are any better, would love to hear anyone’s thoughts

[Zane]

So I think one major complaint of the dragons has been that they grab a bit when grinding Metal, like coping or a flatbar ….i’m curious as to if the 93 spitfires are any better, would love to hear anyone’s thoughts

A post from a few pages back:

Just skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.

Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.

Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.

So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics

[144p]

In my experience the spitfires did grab on some metal surfaces, the conical full samples I had were bad about it but the radial ones much less. Probably a characteristic of the durometer vs a formula. I will say the square shape of the conical full is bad at sticking on metal at times vs radial/classic.

[Frank and Fred]

oops, I Should have watched the Dadboard and 144p reviews before I ordered a set of each (Dragons and F4 93s and saved $40). Seriously though, that was what I hoped for. I'll be using the Dragons on my hillbomber to try and get some record breaking four wheel drifters and use the F4s on my regular board.

I do  have to say as far as 'softer' wheel that slide go, the X97s I was given did assist me with some of the best blunt slides I have done in awhile and they slide just fine on nose/ tail slide with Thunders. Hoping the F4 93s are on par with those.

[dipped]

Does anyone know when the F4 93a will be available outside the US?

[fulfillthedream]

damn I just got some Dragons like 3 weeks a go for the cruiser. I also swapped my older trucks from my regular onto my cruiser so ill skate it a bit more than just ride on it.

After trying SO many of the f4's 99a, 101a and 97a - classic, classic full, classic slum, radial, radial slim, conical and conical fulls, i've concluded the 99's are the best for me for street skating - any other 99classic lovers digging the 93s?

[tzhangdox]

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So I think one major complaint of the dragons has been that they grab a bit when grinding Metal, like coping or a flatbar ….i’m curious as to if the 93 spitfires are any better, would love to hear anyone’s thoughts

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A post from a few pages back:

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Just skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.

Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.

Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.

So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics

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Yeah wanna say that if the obstacle is decently waxed then there will be no problems.

Its more when its already a little on the dry side but 99s would still work fine and you could push through, thats when you really notice the 93s dragging. In my case I was skating this metal round pipe (really chubby flatbar) that even everyone skating normal wheels thought was sticky.

Thats when the soft wheels made it a lot harder. My friends who could go faster, push through and lock in on hard wheels found it much harder to do the same thing on my board with the 93s.

The sidewall would grip when crosslocking and board would flip, extra prone happening on a chubby pipe instead of a skinnier rail, so it was a good test. One application of wax would have fixed it but you don't always have that option.

Though I'm pretty sure they did a lil less draggin than the dragons... lol

[pops]

Fun thing but had a session at indoor park skating dragons. Floor is slick and pretty much perfect smooth surface. No slowing down there and I've been skating 97 and 99 Spits there for years. Little drag on metal edges but I was doing my usual tricks fine on curbs and tranny. Super curious how these new soft sliders will skate.

[cheekclapper]

I just want to hear the comparison between the 97du and 93a. I have been riding 97du 56mm conical fulls and they feel great for asphalt and powerslides but feel a bit slow in bowls sometimes. I was wondering how 93a's feel in bowls and whether the powerslide still has a good speedcheck.

[hiljentaa]

Set up 93a 58mm Radials and took the bus upvalley to an asphalt pumptrack that I've been meaning to check out.

It's at a bike park so bunch of rocks, but still super fun. Skated it for probably 30 minutes and then moved over to some wooden features on a concrete slab.

Bunch of skinny features built out of wooden slats. The softer wheels definitely helped roll thru the gaps.

Skated a ton yesterday so didn't do a ton of Ollie tricks, but did some shove its and kickflips out of curiosity. Didn't do any actual power slides, but reverted around and they felt like a skateboard wheel not like a cruiser at all.

The goal was to skate home from there. Should have brought more water, but I did it. Ended up over 20 miles, mostly on a smooth rail-trail. There is a seasonal closure though, and had to skate ~4 miles on the road. Roads here are gnarly as fuck from spiked tires and tire-chains.



Softer wheels are surely better for long pushes like this but these fit what I'm after.

[JM]

oops, I Should have watched the Dadboard and 144p reviews before I ordered a set of each (Dragons and F4 93s and saved $40). Seriously though, that was what I hoped for. I'll be using the Dragons on my hillbomber to try and get some record breaking four wheel drifters and use the F4s on my regular board.

I do  have to say as far as 'softer' wheel that slide go, the X97s I was given did assist me with some of the best blunt slides I have done in awhile and they slide just fine on nose/ tail slide with Thunders. Hoping the F4 93s are on par with those.

Right on… please let us know your thoughts on x97 vs f493’s. Especially since your blunt sliding.

[JM]

Set up 93a 58mm Radials and took the bus upvalley to an asphalt pumptrack that I've been meaning to check out.

It's at a bike park so bunch of rocks, but still super fun. Skated it for probably 30 minutes and then moved over to some wooden features on a concrete slab.

Bunch of skinny features built out of wooden slats. The softer wheels definitely helped roll thru the gaps.

Skated a ton yesterday so didn't do a ton of Ollie tricks, but did some shove its and kickflips out of curiosity. Didn't do any actual power slides, but reverted around and they felt like a skateboard wheel not like a cruiser at all.

The goal was to skate home from there. Should have brought more water, but I did it. Ended up over 20 miles, mostly on a smooth rail-trail. There is a seasonal closure though, and had to skate ~4 miles on the road. Roads here are gnarly as fuck from spiked tires and tire-chains.



Softer wheels are surely better for long pushes like this but these fit what I'm after.

That skate must have been amazing. I’m jelly.

[epsi]

would like to know how the Spitfire 93a compare to the Speedlab 97a. if anyone has ridden those, lmk... but thanks for posting the reviews/comparisons videos, guys. i rode some Dialtone 92a wheels recently but did not like them as much as their 99as.

[Frank and Fred]

Set up 93a 58mm Radials and took the bus upvalley to an asphalt pumptrack that I've been meaning to check out.

It's at a bike park so bunch of rocks, but still super fun. Skated it for probably 30 minutes and then moved over to some wooden features on a concrete slab.

Bunch of skinny features built out of wooden slats. The softer wheels definitely helped roll thru the gaps.

Skated a ton yesterday so didn't do a ton of Ollie tricks, but did some shove its and kickflips out of curiosity. Didn't do any actual power slides, but reverted around and they felt like a skateboard wheel not like a cruiser at all.

The goal was to skate home from there. Should have brought more water, but I did it. Ended up over 20 miles, mostly on a smooth rail-trail. There is a seasonal closure though, and had to skate ~4 miles on the road. Roads here are gnarly as fuck from spiked tires and tire-chains.



Softer wheels are surely better for long pushes like this but these fit what I'm after.

Love it. I've been dabbling in long-distance skates, pump-tracking and hill sliding recently.  I appreciate what you are doing.

[Frank and Fred]

Dowdy did it for us.

[hiljentaa]

Love it. I've been dabbling in long-distance skates, pump-tracking and hill sliding recently.  I appreciate what you are doing.

Thanks man, I'm just hyped to ride my board more. Trying to get more comfortable at speed.

Would like to play around with more hill bombing, but feel like I need a helmet for that.

I skated a little over half this route on 59mm 99a Radial Fulls before. Those Radial Fulls work well for pushing on a hard wheel, but these 93s are definitely more comfortable. Also less bulky so flip tricks aren't as much effort.

One big thing I noticed was the metal ADA bumps on crosswalks at road crossings don't throw you around at all on the 93s compared to the 99s.

[rawbertson.]

https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444

Paid for em, picking em up Friday!

Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.

[moonordie]

https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444

Paid for em, picking em up Friday!

Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.

Yay

[boneless900]

https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444

Paid for em, picking em up Friday!

Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.

While I wait for my shipment to arrive, my madness is classic shape vs radial. I've never ridden a spitfire wheel before so probably best I give both a few sessions before committing

[VHS ERA]

I’m gear stupid-  what type of skating/skater exactly are these supposed to be good for?

[rawbertson.]

I’m gear stupid-  what type of skating/skater exactly are these supposed to be good for?

A soft wheel for rough ground that slides. all other soft wheels are extremely grippy besides Dragons, and these are apparently much faster and are sliding even better.

[rawbertson.]

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https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444

Paid for em, picking em up Friday!

Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.

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While I wait for my shipment to arrive, my madness is classic shape vs radial. I've never ridden a spitfire wheel before so probably best I give both a few sessions before committing

well I have 2 setups... so I am going to continue to fun f4 99a Classic 52mm on that setup (8.38 / thunder 148 team) and then the 56mm radials going to be for my hybrid (8.75 egg / 149 Indy Std)

If I was putting it on my smaller setup then I would run the classic shape I'm thinking. w

[Xen]

I’m gear stupid-  what type of skating/skater exactly are these supposed to be good for?

RIF

[munchbox]

admittedly waiting for zoomies to stock the 93a radials
(i have a gift card and anything less than 40 is a deal)

[JM]

Chris Cole’s brother reviewed the 93a’s

[Meathook]

Chris Cole’s brother reviewed the 93a’s

This industry never ceases to amaze me.

[Banned from the room]

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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484

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He set up the wrong risers for sure.

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For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?

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I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product.  I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.

He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.

Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.


Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!



Link to those Real risers:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/

I back these for Venture all day. They last too. I'm like 18 months into a set. Thats like 3 sets of trucks. Mine are round af. It looks cool.

If I can afford it I'd always have a set on. I'm never going back to rubber. This sounds way way better. It's like your wearing nothing at all.

[Banned from the room]

Also it doesn't matter the color. You're gonna slide um into the shape of your plates anyway.

I feel like no plates used to fit thunder proper. We just went with which ever way looked less annoying.

I wish the drop had that little black graphic.

[munchbox]

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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484

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He set up the wrong risers for sure.

[close]

For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?

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I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product.  I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.

He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.

Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.


Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!



Link to those Real risers:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/

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I back these for Venture all day. They last too. I'm like 18 months into a set. Thats like 3 sets of trucks. Mine are round af. It looks cool.

If I can afford it I'd always have a set on. I'm never going back to rubber. This sounds way way better. It's like your wearing nothing at all.