Spitfire formula four

[Frank and Fred]

You can slap 'em down, vogue yourself into position, pose for the money shot and re-enter.

[JM]

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I just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.

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Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.

Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.

I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.

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This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.

When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.

[Xen]

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I just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.

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Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.

Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.

I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.

[close]

This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.

[close]

When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.

Sorry my dude not even close




BONES V2 Locks are the closest:
https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/

[DonkeyRhubarb]

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I just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.

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Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.

Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.

I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.

[close]

This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.

[close]

When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.

[close]

Sorry my dude not even close




BONES V2 Locks are the closest:
https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/

The V6 widecut is pretty close to a Radial Slim (at least on ride patch) being only 1MM narrower at 18.5MM on the 54MM wheel. But it is 3MM wider on total width which might bother Radial Slim enjoyers.

[rawbertson.]

Man on top of the other marketing follies of using Jaws to push the x formula (i am looking at their lineup and i PROBABLY would have chose Joslin personally but I think Aurelian would have worked pretty well and I see they used Decenzo as well at some point which imo was actually a good pick) the naming conventions from bones for their wheel shapes are WAY too hard / confusing for consumers to try and remember.

Had my first session on the 93a and it was an absolute blast at the curb spot. feebles and crooked gridn no problem at all, even learned crook pop over. Radial shape 56mm so nice and chonky i was just locked the fuck in on this downhill slap. was going so fast i had to chill. my setup for this wheel is 8.75 primitive egg, 149 indy standard. i think i could main this setup anywhere but i am pretty sure i would rather use my 99a setup for bluntslides. but this would definitely still work. now its more of a matter of what are you sacrificing more on each setup and its like such specific things its hard to choose.

[rikki]

Man on top of the other marketing follies of using Jaws to push the x formula (i am looking at their lineup and i PROBABLY would have chose Joslin personally but I think Aurelian would have worked pretty well and I see they used Decenzo as well at some point which imo was actually a good pick) the naming conventions from bones for their wheel shapes are WAY too hard / confusing for consumers to try and remember.

Had my first session on the 93a and it was an absolute blast at the curb spot. feebles and crooked gridn no problem at all, even learned crook pop over. Radial shape 56mm so nice and chonky i was just locked the fuck in on this downhill slap. was going so fast i had to chill. my setup for this wheel is 8.75 primitive egg, 149 indy standard. i think i could main this setup anywhere but i am pretty sure i would rather use my 99a setup for bluntslides. but this would definitely still work. now its more of a matter of what are you sacrificing more on each setup and its like such specific things its hard to choose.

Awesome to hear. Kudos.

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I think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.

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That's terrible. I love the 97. None of my 97s got chips. They nice and white. They do the job around here.

If was over there I'd buy up everything you got over 55mm

None of my 97s did chip, they just felt all over the place wherever I skated. Only indoor park was fine, I liked them there. My 97s are def not white,  not even when new. More like potato-ish.

[JM]

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I just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.

[close]

Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.

Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.

I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.

[close]

This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.

[close]

When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.

[close]

Sorry my dude not even close




BONES V2 Locks are the closest:
https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/

The width is the same, isn’t it? That’s all I cared about.

Are we getting super specific about the shape of the wheel at the edges, and the ride patch?

[Mbrimson88]

The width is the same, isn’t it? That’s all I cared about.

Are we getting super specific about the shape of the wheel at the edges, and the ride patch?

Grown men comparing the similarities or the huge differences between a few mm in measurements of wheels?

Absolutely, as is the whole reason for "Shoes and gear" on Slap.


But for real, even just the conical shape, compared to the more rounded edges of Radial shape wheels is the make or break for some people in terms of which wheels work well, or don't work well.

That and the 4 mm between contact areas between those two - Bones wheel shape, I mean.


I have machined down - rounded off the sharper side edge mainly - of Conical 54 mm wheels to make them more like Radial Slim wheels on a few occasions and I felt like the set I skated did have a little more easy in and out from coping, edges, etc.

Guessing that was what people missed about the feel of the Radial Slims, along with the generally not so wide wheel feeling too.

[JM]

Of course, I should have known better.

I am a shame.

[rocklobster]

Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.

Thanks Slap.

[Enrico Pallazzo]

Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.

Thanks Slap.

Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.

[Xen]

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Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.

Thanks Slap.

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Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.

X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)

[camel filters]

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Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.

Thanks Slap.

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Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.

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X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)

I also noticed hes on thunders and had to resist the nerd urge to say something about it in the comments.

[Painted Baby]

My guess is Mason is just skating the Christmas complete that DLX sent him with the wheels, the mellow mold board and they just happened to throw some Thunders on it. 2nd slide is a session from at least this week and those look like they have the Indy chub roll.

[Xen]

the Indy chub roll.

lolol

[FUBAR]

You can slap 'em down, vogue yourself into position, pose for the money shot and re-enter.

This seems like a very polite way to tell some to Fk off.

[Jogging José]

The 93s have arrived in Europe. My local, Freedom in Vienna, has them in stock.

https://freedomskateshop.at/search?q=Spitfire%2093


…great shop btw.

[moonordie]

The 93s have arrived in Europe. My local, Freedom in Vienna, has them in stock.

https://freedomskateshop.at/search?q=Spitfire%2093


…great shop btw.

I was about to ask for 93 in here (EU)
Gnard

PS: €75 ouchhhh

[pops]

80e for a set of wheels is kinda harsh.

[rawbertson.]

I am seeing the first shops having the 93a now available in Canada for $76 - $85.88 after tax 

[rikki]

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The 93s have arrived in Europe. My local, Freedom in Vienna, has them in stock.

https://freedomskateshop.at/search?q=Spitfire%2093


…great shop btw.

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I was about to ask for 93 in here (EU)
Gnard

PS: €75 ouchhhh

Fucking hell. Forum rules probably prevent me from listing all the kinds of good stuff I could get for that sum.

Target group: well-off middle age gearheads. (Oops.)

[rawbertson.]

pretty happy I got them for $63 canadian with tax from the skatepark of Tampa while I was there
they only had the classics left so i was glad I ordered them ahead of time!

[CarcassToss]

Before these 93A I had some 97A 55 OG Classics
(I think, it's that or conical fulls) for rougher spots. I needed the diameter and the softer compound. I did try Dragons in 54 and the widest X99 shape. I have the 93A in 54 Radials and they're faster than the OG and the setup feels less clunky due to the smaller width and diameter. I woulda gotten 53s had my shop had em. Normally I like around a 53 so they wear into 52s so these would enable me to ride the same setup more or less at all spots.

With that said I think they're better than the X99 just because they revert with more control and just better overall. More fun to skate in transition as a result. They still can squeal and drag, but all these wheels do. I do find that when they do they don't just halt.

The Bones wheels are still good they just don't have as attractive of marketing or team riders.

[CarcassToss]

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Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.

Thanks Slap.

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Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.

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X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)

Not sure if Mason bounced, but DLX is pushing a lot of riders that are not on a DLX truck to ride one. The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.

[Frank and Fred]

 The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.

Makes a lot of sense for DLX to have a stable truck like Venture and then a looser turnier truck.

This is music to my ears. Currently rotate between Thunder and Ace and if there is some kind of sweet middle ground... well... shitabrick...

Anyone, know what the timeline looks like?

[art hellman]

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 The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.

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Makes a lot of sense for DLX to have a stable truck like Venture and then a looser turnier truck.

This is music to my ears. Currently rotate between Thunder and Ace and if there is some kind of sweet middle ground... well... shitabrick...

Anyone, know what the timeline looks like?

[Xen]

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 The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.

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Makes a lot of sense for DLX to have a stable truck like Venture and then a looser turnier truck.

This is music to my ears. Currently rotate between Thunder and Ace and if there is some kind of sweet middle ground... well... shitabrick...

Anyone, know what the timeline looks like?

Could be why Ishod is noodling with Ventures..

[Mbrimson88]

Of course, I should have known better.

I am a shame.

No, it is all just part and parcel with skateboarding, where even the slightest or smallest change can have a huge impact on things.

Keep your chin up and keep on rolling!!!!

[Xen]

From the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?