Spitfire formula four

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Why would they fuck with it.

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Why? Simple. Because Thunders suck and they are •finally• trying to do something about it.

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brutal but true. how many iterations has thunder even gone through? venture's had a few tweaks, obviously indy too, someone drop some knowledge for me

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"A few tweaks"



The info you seek is here:

THE THUNDER THREAD
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg4122001;topicseen#msg4122001

lol definitely an understatement. thank you as always

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Almost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.

[MC3]

Waiting for that Conical Full 93


I had a crazy realization yesterday. I set up a Christmas complete a few months ago cuz I was switching from thunders to Indy and my whole board was beat (bearings old, wheels coned, hardware stripping). I started taking apart the board last nite to harvest the trucks for a homie who is getting into skating, and I realized that the conical fulls, which I rode for a long time and loved, were 97s and not 99s like I thought. That explained why my board felt so much rattley when I set up some 99a conical fulls.


Needless to say, looking forward to trying some 93 conical (or even radial) fulls

[pops]

Waiting for that Conical Full 93


I had a crazy realization yesterday. I set up a Christmas complete a few months ago cuz I was switching from thunders to Indy and my whole board was beat (bearings old, wheels coned, hardware stripping). I started taking apart the board last nite to harvest the trucks for a homie who is getting into skating, and I realized that the conical fulls, which I rode for a long time and loved, were 97s and not 99s like I thought. That explained why my board felt so much rattley when I set up some 99a conical fulls.


Needless to say, looking forward to trying some 93 conical (or even radial) fulls

If these come out eventually I would be super stoked. 93 Radial Fulls in 56-60mm would be dreamy.

[OhioGuy]

I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

[devils acrobat]

Almost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.

E as in euros? Which shop is it?

[Xen]

I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

[DERBY]

been on the 58mm 93 radials. for some reason theyve been sliding better than any of the last few 99s ive used. mind you they were usually 56mm+ and full shape. the bounce was noticeable but got used to it within minutes

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Almost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.

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E as in euros? Which shop is it?

Yes. MFT Helsinki has them.

https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-93du-radials-58-mm

[144p]

I have conical full samples so they will be coming at some point no doubt.

[Mbrimson88]

I have conical full samples so they will be coming at some point no doubt.

It often makes me wonder how many of each are made, then how many shop guys, industry heads or associated others get a set to have a go on, but at least getting the product out for a varied and real testing by a lot of people is the main thing, not just having a few people from within the company test it and say "Yeah that works" then releasing something that might not quite be what the masses want.

Rad that people can post info and comments, videos and whatever on here too so more people can get an idea and get interested, because this might just be the biggest push of a specific DLX product since the original Formula Four back in 2012 - 2013.  Not counting a few other versions / options because they really didn't quite last, as per F1 or Softies or so many other things like Low Pro construction, just to name a few.



* Also guessing by making a few different shapes, they could also see what might perform best too, then going with Classic and Radial being maybe the two main or all rounder type of wheel shapes, especially the bigger Radials, which are quite wide, eg 58 x 38 with 25 mm riding surface.

[devils acrobat]

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Almost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.

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E as in euros? Which shop is it?

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Yes. MFT Helsinki has them.

https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-93du-radials-58-mm

Awesome, thanks!

[MyUserName]

Got the 93 radials and I am in love. Deceptively fast and fun to slide. Perfect for my rainy day cruiser, though I probably won’t use them on my “regular” board.

[OhioGuy]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

[kneebone]

First session on the Classic 52mm 93s. These wheels are great! No noticeable difference in slide from my usual F4 99s. Here's a few slides:
http://youtube.com/shorts/jAR-R5MeweA?si=7xX0d4nfoUlHGybV

[CarcassToss]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

[Free hat]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

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been on the 58mm 93 radials. for some reason theyve been sliding better than any of the last few 99s ive used. mind you they were usually 56mm+ and full shape. the bounce was noticeable but got used to it within minutes

I feel the same about my 97s but it's been a while so I might just be having normal fun

[Sedition]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

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You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

^ Facts. Hard stop.

[rikki]

Speaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?

[Bongwater Mojito]

Speaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?

After two sessions on 93 52mm Classics, the slide is better than previously tried Nomads, X97 and F4 97, in my opinion.

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Speaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?

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After two sessions on 93 52mm Classics, the slide is better than previously tried Nomads, X97 and F4 97, in my opinion.

What I wanna know is how the Sapphires and these sound they way they do?

Or perhaps every YouTubers gotta bank of official spit sound effects and doing drum replacement therapy on us.

I fuckin checked video against video on the same channel too. The sound between dragons and spits appears to be almost night and day.

Is this facts or miss observation?

I even heard the Aaron Kyro say that about the sapphires on his skitching slider wheel test.

Those are the only braile videos that matter. I need to see the inside of wheels

[CarcassToss]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

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You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

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^ Facts. Hard stop.

True, but dude just posted he mostly rolls and does no complies. Those aren't slappies. I could understand madness for slappies. I use my larger transition setup for curb days and dudes have pretty unique setups and I get why. It sounded like the poster is mostly into cruising and the variables there aren't inherently complex and you could just setup a few different cruisers like a polarizer, old school setup, etc and things like pop timing, grind, balance point won't matter.

[OhioGuy]

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

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You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

Exactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.

For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅

So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

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You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

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^ Facts. Hard stop.

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True, but dude just posted he mostly rolls and does no complies. Those aren't slappies. I could understand madness for slappies. I use my larger transition setup for curb days and dudes have pretty unique setups and I get why. It sounded like the poster is mostly into cruising and the variables there aren't inherently complex and you could just setup a few different cruisers like a polarizer, old school setup, etc and things like pop timing, grind, balance point won't matter.

See the post above this.

[rawbertson.]

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Speaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?

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After two sessions on 93 52mm Classics, the slide is better than previously tried Nomads, X97 and F4 97, in my opinion.

[close]

What I wanna know is how the Sapphires and these sound they way they do?

Or perhaps every YouTubers gotta bank of official spit sound effects and doing drum replacement therapy on us.

I fuckin checked video against video on the same channel too. The sound between dragons and spits appears to be almost night and day.

Is this facts or miss observation?

I even heard the Aaron Kyro say that about the sapphires on his skitching slider wheel test.

Those are the only braile videos that matter. I need to see the inside of wheels

sapphires are probably like filmer wheels

[handsclapanin]

I was going through a box of used gear and look at these beauties. 52 99a Radial Slims
Still a hair over 51 mm. I wonder how much I could get for these? Do people lust over them that much?
They're not for sale.
I've been on nothing but F4's for maybe 8 years now. The first set was 101a. Nothing but 99a since. I had 3 or 4 sets of Slims in a row and loved them. But I had a battle with this trick where I was landing alongside a parallel crack and kept getting stuck in it. My friend rides an identical setup to me. Except he had classics on. I did a little test and I was able to roll over these cracks where the slims would catch.
But they have their selling points. Flip tricks feel great. And they just look good.

[Xen]

I wonder how much I could get for these? Do people lust over them that much?
They're not for sale.

If they are not for sale, why worry about it?

Given how beat and small they are, probably nothing.

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

[close]

You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

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Exactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.

For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅

So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.

Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.

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I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲

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They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.

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Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.

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How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?

[close]

You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.

[close]

Exactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.

For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅

So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.

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Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.

I don’t understand why you can’t comprehend the fact that gear matters to people regardless of the complexity of their trick selection. Trucks turn differently, wheel size/shape/duro effect how it rides, board dimensions change how it feels etc. You sound like an elitist arguing that he should just ride anything that “fits” and not focus on the nuances of his setup because he doesn’t do certain tricks. Fools were tinkering with their shit before kickflips were commonplace.