Spitfire formula four

[tzhangdox]

They definitely feel a lil sharper/more square than even conical fulls in my experience.

An OG Classic thats a bit more tapered, but retains the slim profile, side cut, and most importantly the swirl graphic... would be the most goated wheel

[Lou Strux]

Does anyone’s local have 53mm or 54mm 99a radials I can order online? Not the fulls just the regular ones. I just wanted to check before pulling the trigger at skate warehouse or wherever pops up. I have some Silas Baxter Neal ones in the garage about  a decade old. Ha

Do the  OG classics have rounded edges like a radial or classic or more square like a conical?

Yo, shoplurker.com has your ticket.
Support a small shop before going to them warehouse jawns.
I did a quick search for “Spitfire Formula 4 Radial 53mm 54mm” & came up w/ a number of smaller shops offering them.
You can filter for price, distance, etc.
Get them wheels you want & keep your dollars where they ought to be.
Big shout out to @tkp for putting this gem of a search site together.

[Mbrimson88]

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I guess the main thing to note too is that both Classics and Bigheads come in original formula and Formula Four urethane, so just getting some Spitfire Bigheads as some others have done might not quite go as initially thought.

Maybe it is more just the testing of the waters, so to speak, and seeing if there is much interest in that shape, as they would already have the molds for the original urethane wheels.

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Yeah good shout, and the F4 Bigheads are the ones at the same price point here not the 'classic' formula (although those are only marginally cheaper, guessing due to import/duty etc).

Also those photos of the actual OG Classics is actually really selling them to me, oddly enough I think staring at cross-sections and measurements in the list on their site actually makes me lose perspective of what I'm meant to be seeing.

Sometimes it does take a person to see the wheels or even skate the wheels to then be able to give their own perspective on any different shaped wheels to what they are used to.  Just so happens I have some of everything, mainly from people getting the wrong ones from other places and then trading them in with me, but I don't mind experimenting with them as well, just to see what they are like.

I also like to look at a lot of pics too, so some shops only ever use stock images but others take some really good pics to show the angles or other details of the wheels I might not ever see otherwise.

They definitely feel a lil sharper/more square than even conical fulls in my experience.

An OG Classic thats a bit more tapered, but retains the slim profile, side cut, and most importantly the swirl graphic... would be the most goated wheel

It is funny how much some people love round or squared off wheels, while others can't stand them, but I do recall more than one person saying they loved them mainly because the swirl graphic never comes off.

[rawbertson.]

is the idea behind OG Classics to protect the graphic? and does that actually seem to work?

[Mbrimson88]

is the idea behind OG Classics to protect the graphic? and does that actually seem to work?

That was just the wheel shape back in the late 80s when they first came out, as far as I can recall.

The very first Spitfire wheels someone had on ebay a while back I saw were just a single colour (black) print, fairly small swirl actually, but in that similar shape, maybe more like 60 mm, but I can't remember now.

But as to the current ones, I think it is just a thing that some people really like about them, because the graphic just does not wear off as it is on the inside edge and never touches anything, unlike Classics which come off on the first grind really.


* Couldn't find the pics I had, but I think some old Thrasher mags had ads for them too.  The only one that comes up is that shape but not that graphic.

[144p]

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The og classic is the original spitfire shape

[meeevs]

is the idea behind OG Classics to protect the graphic? and does that actually seem to work?

Pretty sure the cutaway shaping is meant to 'save weight' compared to e.g. a Powell Cubic which would have been a competitor.

...just so happens I have some of everything, mainly from people getting the wrong ones from other places and then trading them in with me, but I don't mind experimenting with them as well, just to see what they are like.

I also like to look at a lot of pics too, so some shops only ever use stock images but others take some really good pics to show the angles or other details of the wheels I might not ever see otherwise.

If you have all of the shapes in the same size, a set of calipers, and the inclination/a touch of wheel madness I'm happy to mock up some actual wireframes to compare them all overlaid. Like is being attempted in the wheels thread but without having to use low-res images.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

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is the idea behind OG Classics to protect the graphic? and does that actually seem to work?

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Pretty sure the cutaway shaping is meant to 'save weight' compared to e.g. a Powell Cubic which would have been a competitor.

Cubics weren't so prevalent by the time Spitfire came out. I would say OJ Teamriders were the main 'rival'/ inspiration behind the OG classic shape.

Dad board weighed a bunch of 54mm Spitfire shapes in a vid and OG classics were among the lightest. It's a slept on shape and if I want a square/ cutaway instead of a round shape, the OG classic is it.

[meeevs]

Cubics weren't so prevalent by the time Spitfire came out. I would say OJ Teamriders were the main 'rival'/ inspiration behind the OG classic shape.

Dad board weighed a bunch of 54mm Spitfire shapes in a vid and OG classics were among the lightest. It's a slept on shape and if I want a square/ cutaway instead of a round shape, the OG classic is it.

Yeah I guess so, this Powell ad shows their progression towards 'street' wheels.With Spitfire in 87 I guess it sort of shows where the cutaway tech had come in just earlier. I had vaguely remembered something about how the cubics/mini cubics were one of the influencers of lighter shapes after people complained about how dense they were along with Krypto and Vision stuff of the time. I guess the real competition for market share was against OJs until the turn of the 90s though.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

Speedhweels (OJ teamriders etc.) were so good. I still miss them...

[Slave IV]

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Cubics weren't so prevalent by the time Spitfire came out. I would say OJ Teamriders were the main 'rival'/ inspiration behind the OG classic shape.

Dad board weighed a bunch of 54mm Spitfire shapes in a vid and OG classics were among the lightest. It's a slept on shape and if I want a square/ cutaway instead of a round shape, the OG classic is it.

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Yeah I guess so, this Powell ad shows their progression towards 'street' wheels.With Spitfire in 87 I guess it sort of shows where the cutaway tech had come in just earlier. I had vaguely remembered something about how the cubics/mini cubics were one of the influencers of lighter shapes after people complained about how dense they were along with Krypto and Vision stuff of the time. I guess the real competition for market share was against OJs until the turn of the 90s though.

I was going to mention Powell Minirats being one of the first good conical shaped street wheel I remember from back in the day. The 57mm 97A were my favorite wheels I had on the old shaped decks before everything changed.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

I had a set of mini rats. Ripped one right off the axle olleing to axle stall on a curb. It was a pretty hot day...

[dotsy]

Dad board weighed a bunch of 54mm Spitfire shapes in a vid and OG classics were among the lightest. It's a slept on shape and if I want a square/ cutaway instead of a round shape, the OG classic is it.

for anyone wondering he did

1x 54mm wheel each (brand new)

Classic - 58g
OG Classic - 59g
Conical - 61g
Conical full - 63g


also, I got a new set of f4 classics and decided to weigh them compared to my ishod lock in classics (both sets in 52mm 99du)

the lockin classic (with 6 sessions into them) was 55g and the brand new classic was 51g

[fakiefs180]

I came across this insta account and I appreciate the mission.

https://www.instagram.com/bringback_radialslims?igsh=MTBjMDA5dzVqcGc2Zw==

Maybe cool things start to happen if we annoy DLX hard enough. ^^

[rikki]

I came across this insta account and I appreciate the mission.

https://www.instagram.com/bringback_radialslims?igsh=MTBjMDA5dzVqcGc2Zw==

Maybe cool things start to happen if we annoy DLX hard enough. ^^

Gotta be a Slap pal.

[rawbertson.]

if i wanted skinnier wheels, id just ride bones x formula...

[tuesday]

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I came across this insta account and I appreciate the mission.

https://www.instagram.com/bringback_radialslims?igsh=MTBjMDA5dzVqcGc2Zw==

Maybe cool things start to happen if we annoy DLX hard enough. ^^

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Gotta be a Slap pal.

It's not me, but if I had insta, this would be an insta follow. #bringback_radialslims

[Slave IV]

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Dad board weighed a bunch of 54mm Spitfire shapes in a vid and OG classics were among the lightest. It's a slept on shape and if I want a square/ cutaway instead of a round shape, the OG classic is it.

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for anyone wondering he did

1x 54mm wheel each (brand new)

Classic - 58g
OG Classic - 59g
Conical - 61g
Conical full - 63g


also, I got a new set of f4 classics and decided to weigh them compared to my ishod lock in classics (both sets in 52mm 99du)

the lockin classic (with 6 sessions into them) was 55g and the brand new classic was 51g

Thanks for sharing this - great info!

I had a set of mini rats. Ripped one right off the axle olleing to axle stall on a curb. It was a pretty hot day...

Never had that happen with any wheel. Also don't think I've ever had bearings blow out. But recently, I never snapped a deck either so will see how things go, haha.

[Sedition]

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I came across this insta account and I appreciate the mission.

https://www.instagram.com/bringback_radialslims?igsh=MTBjMDA5dzVqcGc2Zw==

Maybe cool things start to happen if we annoy DLX hard enough. ^^

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Gotta be a Slap pal.

It’s not. Guy who runs it actually DM’d me, and I asked if he was on here. He said no.

[moonordie]

Heyoo

[Teethcanbesexy]

Anybody notice potentially different formulas used soft sliders?  I have two sets and so does my friend, but one of mine is noticeably less slidable than the other three. 

[Paco Supreme]

Classic Full Image
Heyoo

Well fuck, just when I thought I’d settled back on radials.

[Coffee]

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Does anyone’s local have 53mm or 54mm 99a radials I can order online? Not the fulls just the regular ones. I just wanted to check before pulling the trigger at skate warehouse or wherever pops up. I have some Silas Baxter Neal ones in the garage about  a decade old. Ha

Do the  OG classics have rounded edges like a radial or classic or more square like a conical?

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i think if I had to put them in order of square to round it would be

Tablets
Og classics
Conicals
Radials
Classics

Agreed. I have setups with OG classics, conicals, and classics and the difference between the OG and regular classics is huge.

[Murge]

Heyoo

This will help me with my lack of radial issue

[Mbrimson88]

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Heyoo

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This will help me with my lack of radial issue

Fall Drop 3, so soon for some, but maybe not soon enough for others.


What I am more curious about is that board - guessing someone lost an axle nut so put a combination of foil and bottle top on to hold the wheel on instead???

AH GT 8.32 deck, Thunder trucks and new 53 mm Spitfire Classic Full wheels is a nice combination all round, but somebody please give a guy a spare wheel nut.

[Murge]

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Heyoo

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This will help me with my lack of radial issue

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Fall Drop 3, so soon for some, but maybe not soon enough for others.


What I am more curious about is that board - guessing someone lost an axle nut so put a combination of foil and bottle top on to hold the wheel on instead???

AH GT 8.32 deck, Thunder trucks and new 53 mm Spitfire Classic Full wheels is a nice combination all round, but somebody please give a guy a spare wheel nut.

Just throwing it out there. But if that is GTs board. Yall think he’s switching to T2

[Mbrimson88]

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Heyoo

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This will help me with my lack of radial issue

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Fall Drop 3, so soon for some, but maybe not soon enough for others.


What I am more curious about is that board - guessing someone lost an axle nut so put a combination of foil and bottle top on to hold the wheel on instead???

AH GT 8.32 deck, Thunder trucks and new 53 mm Spitfire Classic Full wheels is a nice combination all round, but somebody please give a guy a spare wheel nut.

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Just throwing it out there. But if that is GTs board. Yall think he’s switching to T2

He usually rides the 8.38 shape on Conical Full wheels and Indy trucks as per his post a few days ago (or at least not so long ago now), but that graphic is on the short 8.32 shape and Thunders, so I might guess it is someone else's board that he took a pic of the wheel nut, or lack of it, but who knows really.


* Someone might say the team riders all get whatever graphics on whatever shapes too, which would be different to the normal standard catalog versions, so yeah it could be a trade up, especially if something was going on with Indy for him.  Just don't know really.


** Any which way, it is good to see Classic Full wheels, even if it could be a very limited size run.

[Slave IV]

I see Classic Fulls in their current catalog but they are always 80du. Need the new formula 97s.

[EDMUND]

I have loved skating the 93 classics for the past year but am considering switching back to 99s out of curiosity. I’m not sure if it is worth it… there is a snappiness I miss…

[tzhangdox]

I have loved skating the 93 classics for the past year but am considering switching back to 99s out of curiosity. I’m not sure if it is worth it… there is a snappiness I miss…

I like 93s a lot, but not as my primary wheel. I'd say going back to 99 is worth it if:
- You skate a lot of ledges, especially if its metal coping
- You skate flatbars
- The ground you skate isn't really bad
- You don't get too sore or tired after skating

And yes, the sound and snappiness are nice too.