Are there any Jewish pros?

[Apealien]

^^ this guy is a bozo. As both a yid and someone with a god damn brain stem I can tell you with 100% certainty no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

Also, the magen David (star of david) is just a fucking hexagram that’s been used by multiple religions as a design or statement piece in there places of worship. As far as I know, it’s use as it pertains to Judaism wasn’t until few hundred years after the fall of the second temple when the Magen David was used in the architecture of early diaspora shuls, talking 2nd/3rd century’s. But, in the same sense I had mentioned before (albeit a very disgusting comparison to make), despite its history of being a symbol used by countless groups and religions, it is now intrinsically  linked to Judaism.

I’m pretty certain that turning a Magen David into a swastika started in the 1970’s with a UFO cult called Raëlism.

To the topic at hand, Paul Hart is Jewish I think, but eh we won’t claim him. But Ari Shiffrin and Niv Halpern both fucking rip. I like seeing fellow Jews skate. When I was orthodox I’d skate with my tzit-tzis (the strings you see under a shirt that Jews wear) blowing in the wind and that shit felt cool. But I kept my kippah on underneath a hat.

It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

[ManimalChin]

^^ this guy is a bozo. As both a yid and someone with a god damn brain stem I can tell you with 100% certainty no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

Also, the magen David (star of david) is just a fucking hexagram that’s been used by multiple religions as a design or statement piece in there places of worship. As far as I know, it’s use as it pertains to Judaism wasn’t until few hundred years after the fall of the second temple when the Magen David was used in the architecture of early diaspora shuls, talking 2nd/3rd century’s. But, in the same sense I had mentioned before (albeit a very disgusting comparison to make), despite its history of being a symbol used by countless groups and religions, it is now intrinsically  linked to Judaism.

I’m pretty certain that turning a Magen David into a swastika started in the 1970’s with a UFO cult called Raëlism.

It's also pretty synonymous with the state of Israel as well, not just Judaism. So it becomes a little bit more meaningful to some, and can certainly be a symbol of hatred for others.

[Freelancevagrant]

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^^ this guy is a bozo. no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

I never said it wasn’t Buddhist originally, I said it was usurped by Nazism and that it is a safe assumption that if you ask anybody what they think of when they see a swastika, it is a safe bet that all of them would relate it to the third reich.

As for cringing at me putting words in your mouth, I was relaying what is incredibly common rhetoric amongst defenders trying to reclaim it.

I am sorry to disturb your vril energy but the earliest uses of the swastika dates back to the Neolithic era, about 3500 years before Buddha.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

As for wanting to argue with you, you did get get this one right. I will gladly argue with someone trying to reclaim, repurpose, or defend symbols that have become synonymous with genocide, regardless of their origins.

[CHONGO]

alex olson

[matty_c]

That’s crazy so it was like primatives doing that stussy S thing we all used to draw

Honestly it’s fair suss repping that garbage for sure some people might not mean nazi party but you’d want your head checked if you think it’s legit to wear that shit in public and just explain it to people as you go, best just leave it the fuck alone in western countries
Cunts will think you’re a white supremacist bro
It’s not like, being clever or anything to rep that stuff

[backside_reacharound]

That’s crazy so it was like primatives doing that stussy S thing we all used to draw

Honestly it’s fair suss repping that garbage for sure some people might not mean nazi party but you’d want your head checked if you think it’s legit to wear that shit in public and just explain it to people as you go, best just leave it the fuck alone in western countries
Cunts will think you’re a white supremacist bro
It’s not like, being clever or anything to rep that stuff

Wholeheartedly agree, shit is too fucked to be messing with, at least in the west. (They still rep that shit all over asia without any nazi connotation, I saw it all over india, japan and se asia).

Furthermore, repping the star of david at this point is becoming kook shit itself. Pretty inextricably linked to the fact that Israel is a racist country trying to shit on Palestinians at every possible chance. Pure garbage.

[Apealien]

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^^ this guy is a bozo. no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

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I never said it wasn’t Buddhist originally, I said it was usurped by Nazism and that it is a safe assumption that if you ask anybody what they think of when they see a swastika, it is a safe bet that all of them would relate it to the third reich.

As for cringing at me putting words in your mouth, I was relaying what is incredibly common rhetoric amongst defenders trying to reclaim it.

I am sorry to disturb your vril energy but the earliest uses of the swastika dates back to the Neolithic era, about 3500 years before Buddha.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

As for wanting to argue with you, you did get get this one right. I will gladly argue with someone trying to reclaim, repurpose, or defend symbols that have become synonymous with genocide, regardless of their origins.

I appreciate your sources as you are correct in saying it derives from Neolithic cultures(as far as we know...... That's a whole other discussion). I didn't say it originated in Buddhism or Hinduism or the far east but is safe to say it is not regarded as a symbol for genocide or hate in those countries. It's just sad that most of the world can demonize a symbol. I'm not reclaiming it just clearly saying how I feel. I totally agree with you. My step bro is a Rabbi Shalom.

[matty_c]

This is not a personal attack but it’s like that symbol gets a lot of people offside and this is just my opinion but it’s probably easier to just leave it rather than try bring it back with different intent

I burned an iron cross into my hand in 1999...from my point of view at the time legit indy symbol and indeed a christian one but yeah I probably thought I was super edgy at the time

You gotta watch that imagery bro

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Don’t do it
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It’s faded heaps but still, I am not psyched on it at all

[Freelancevagrant]

@Apealien I can’t stand when people play the devils advocate. However, you haven’t necessarily done this and have managed to bring up a few points I hadn’t considered while I was busy lobbing insults, mainly that it isn’t considered a hate symbol in the East, but this may also be symptomatic of their education on modern European History **this isn’t at all an indictment on the education of the east just a baseless theory I came up with**. My grandparents were Holocaust survivors and I live in the south where it is actively used as a hate symbol, so I’m naturally going to be hyper sensitive to the subject. Our discussion reminded me that one of my favorite movies, master of the flying guillotine features a character named fung sheng wu chi who has a swastika adorned on his outfit, not as a hate symbol but clearly as a reference to the characters beliefs and backstory. Have a gnar and thank you for keeping your cool.



@matty_c shit partner that just looks like you put a smoke out on your hand

[matty_c]

Lmao it was a long time ago I’m glad it doesn’t look like an iron cross to anyone, fuck yeah

[Backchoi]

Newbie here from the NJ area.

Pappalardo has a Jewish movie star uncle by name of Steve Guttenberg.

I don’t know how Jewish that makes Pops. Somewhat common back in the 80’s Italian and Jew marriages. Had a skate homie that would celebrate Hannukah and Christmas.

Non pros: Spike Jonze Jimmy Theibaud

[Crust]

This is not a personal attack but it’s like that symbol gets a lot of people offside and this is just my opinion but it’s probably easier to just leave it rather than try bring it back with different intent

I burned an iron cross into my hand in 1999...from my point of view at the time legit indy symbol and indeed a christian one but yeah I probably thought I was super edgy at the time

You gotta watch that imagery bro

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See what I mean, fuckwit city
Don’t do it
https://ibb.co/qpbf72C

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It’s faded heaps but still, I am not psyched on it at all

@mattyc  I wouldn't worry about it - as hard as I try, I cannot discern any shape or symbol from that. To me, all it looks like is a burn scar on your hand.

[Fasttimes]

I really want to know (that rhyme). Never seen any or heard of any.

Good question, but isn't the whole awesome part of skating the aspect of transcending cultural norms and meeting people society wouldn't let you, by design or background, ever meet? skating is a subculture that creates from the idea that the is only tangible line within a group? What skaters are nazis? Is basically the same question, isn't that odd question to ask. Have fun and skate don't bring in religion, just love that people are different. If you are 13 I'm sorry, if you are over that age. Please just go play pickleball where religion matters.....

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^^ this guy is a bozo. As both a yid and someone with a god damn brain stem I can tell you with 100% certainty no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

Also, the magen David (star of david) is just a fucking hexagram that’s been used by multiple religions as a design or statement piece in there places of worship. As far as I know, it’s use as it pertains to Judaism wasn’t until few hundred years after the fall of the second temple when the Magen David was used in the architecture of early diaspora shuls, talking 2nd/3rd century’s. But, in the same sense I had mentioned before (albeit a very disgusting comparison to make), despite its history of being a symbol used by countless groups and religions, it is now intrinsically  linked to Judaism.

I’m pretty certain that turning a Magen David into a swastika started in the 1970’s with a UFO cult called Raëlism.

To the topic at hand, Paul Hart is Jewish I think, but eh we won’t claim him. But Ari Shiffrin and Niv Halpern both fucking rip. I like seeing fellow Jews skate. When I was orthodox I’d skate with my tzit-tzis (the strings you see under a shirt that Jews wear) blowing in the wind and that shit felt cool. But I kept my kippah on underneath a hat.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

Don't get upset. They won't listen. Go skate. This thread is basically equivalent too, "I only skate within my ethnicity." I'm waiting for rebuttals from this. For example, I loved Brian Anderson, I'm straight, when he came out I didn't care. Skating is the premise, someone's background, race, religion, color, or sexuality has nothing to do with skating; that is why it is special. Also Brian Anderson is Jewish OP. 

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^^ this guy is a bozo. no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

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I never said it wasn’t Buddhist originally, I said it was usurped by Nazism and that it is a safe assumption that if you ask anybody what they think of when they see a swastika, it is a safe bet that all of them would relate it to the third reich.

As for cringing at me putting words in your mouth, I was relaying what is incredibly common rhetoric amongst defenders trying to reclaim it.

I am sorry to disturb your vril energy but the earliest uses of the swastika dates back to the Neolithic era, about 3500 years before Buddha.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

As for wanting to argue with you, you did get get this one right. I will gladly argue with someone trying to reclaim, repurpose, or defend symbols that have become synonymous with genocide, regardless of their origins.

Are we on skateboard forum or philosophy class? The symbol you speak isn't synonymous with genocide unless you are narrow minded and have one line of history class. They used the symbol for 15 years, it's been used for 2500 years if not more. I'm sure you can argue your own opinion, if you read more. I don't care to argue with a kid that rebuttals a skateboard forum with this "I was a B student, and my parents think I'm amazing." Have fun instead of looking to fix shit you don't understand. Tell a neo-nazi moron to screw off. I do. You don't.

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^^ this guy is a bozo. no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

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I never said it wasn’t Buddhist originally, I said it was usurped by Nazism and that it is a safe assumption that if you ask anybody what they think of when they see a swastika, it is a safe bet that all of them would relate it to the third reich.

As for cringing at me putting words in your mouth, I was relaying what is incredibly common rhetoric amongst defenders trying to reclaim it.

I am sorry to disturb your vril energy but the earliest uses of the swastika dates back to the Neolithic era, about 3500 years before Buddha.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

As for wanting to argue with you, you did get get this one right. I will gladly argue with someone trying to reclaim, repurpose, or defend symbols that have become synonymous with genocide, regardless of their origins.

[close]

Are we on skateboard forum or philosophy class? The symbol you speak isn't synonymous with genocide unless you are narrow minded and have one line of history class. They used the symbol for 15 years, it's been used for 2500 years if not more. I'm sure you can argue your own opinion, if you read more. I don't care to argue with a kid that rebuttals a skateboard forum with this "I was a B student, and my parents think I'm amazing." Have fun instead of looking to fix shit you don't understand. Tell a neo-nazi moron to screw off. I do. You don't.

Before I get yelled at: I realized nazisim is not a religion, but Germany was socialistic, there was no religion. OP post basically asked what pros are from Israel. Because asking who was a  pro that partakes in Judaism would be a whole different thread. I don't go to jew church. I practice Judaism.

[Coolguy69]

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^^ this guy is a bozo. As both a yid and someone with a god damn brain stem I can tell you with 100% certainty no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

Also, the magen David (star of david) is just a fucking hexagram that’s been used by multiple religions as a design or statement piece in there places of worship. As far as I know, it’s use as it pertains to Judaism wasn’t until few hundred years after the fall of the second temple when the Magen David was used in the architecture of early diaspora shuls, talking 2nd/3rd century’s. But, in the same sense I had mentioned before (albeit a very disgusting comparison to make), despite its history of being a symbol used by countless groups and religions, it is now intrinsically  linked to Judaism.

I’m pretty certain that turning a Magen David into a swastika started in the 1970’s with a UFO cult called Raëlism.

To the topic at hand, Paul Hart is Jewish I think, but eh we won’t claim him. But Ari Shiffrin and Niv Halpern both fucking rip. I like seeing fellow Jews skate. When I was orthodox I’d skate with my tzit-tzis (the strings you see under a shirt that Jews wear) blowing in the wind and that shit felt cool. But I kept my kippah on underneath a hat.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

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Don't get upset. They won't listen. Go skate. This thread is basically equivalent too, "I only skate within my ethnicity." I'm waiting for rebuttals from this. For example, I loved Brian Anderson, I'm straight, when he came out I didn't care. Skating is the premise, someone's background, race, religion, color, or sexuality has nothing to do with skating; that is why it is special. Also Brian Anderson is Jewish OP.

First things first, this thread was started 11 years ago I don't think OP is on here anymore. Second thing, swastikas suck and their origins unfortunately don't change what they have come to represent. Okay here is my rebuttal: I am a Jew. In my personal experience growing up, it could be very isolating and definitely "othered" me. One thing that always made me feel good, was learning that people I liked/looked up to/thought were cool were also Jewish. I didn't feel as isolated or weird when I knew that the Beastie Boys were like me. I definitely see where you are coming from, but I don't really think they were posing the question as a way to separate people. Sometimes it's just fun to learn people are like you if you belong to a marginalized group. I also don't think it is a bad thing for skaters to embrace and celebrate our differences, instead of just ignoring that any of us are different when we skate. I have learned so much about others just chatting at the skateshop. Also where did you see that BA is jewish? I can't find that anywhere.

[L33Tg33k]

So many clicks in skateboarding for ages. Philadelphia skating was definitely separated, not in terms of religion. Everyone had crews they would skate with. Hesh, ratchet hoodrats, Artsy's. To think we are to all just be happy and skate together....unfortunately, it's not like that internationally. Maybe Japan and California were the mental health rate and life expectancy is higher.

I'm not trying to skate with BA or THERE board co. My yellow bum been in jail and the men are savages that stare like I'm meat. Yes I have a phobia of being sodomized.

Plenty of US non profit skate groups have been created to make a safe place for Palestinians to skate. They not allowed into Israel to go shred there awesome modern architecture. If it was only " breakdown social norms" Israeli wall to go shred together with Palestinians.

Yo, I understand phobias but I’m pretty sure none of them guys are goddamn rapists.

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So many clicks in skateboarding for ages. Philadelphia skating was definitely separated, not in terms of religion. Everyone had crews they would skate with. Hesh, ratchet hoodrats, Artsy's. To think we are to all just be happy and skate together....unfortunately, it's not like that internationally. Maybe Japan and California were the mental health rate and life expectancy is higher.

I'm not trying to skate with BA or THERE board co. My yellow bum been in jail and the men are savages that stare like I'm meat. Yes I have a phobia of being sodomized.

Plenty of US non profit skate groups have been created to make a safe place for Palestinians to skate. They not allowed into Israel to go shred there awesome modern architecture. If it was only " breakdown social norms" Israeli wall to go shred together with Palestinians.

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Yo, I understand phobias but I’m pretty sure none of them guys are goddamn rapists.

His phobia seems to be homophobia.

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^^ this guy is a bozo. no one equates a swastika with Buddhism or anything other than hatred and bigotry. National Socialism/Fascism ruined the hermetic and mystic meaning of it. Gotta let go of the “Actually the swastika is a Buddhist symbol of peace” bullshit. The symbol has been usurped and it will remain that way.

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It's great you can embrace different parts of history and totally repress others. Saying the symbol is not a Buddhist is completely dumb. I never said anything about peace so please don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look like a jackass. If you think that's a good look. Cringe. Swastikas found all over the world throughout different cultures thousands of year before Hitler was even a thought. I digress. I don't like arguing with a person that sounds like they want to argue. Don't kook out goofball.

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I never said it wasn’t Buddhist originally, I said it was usurped by Nazism and that it is a safe assumption that if you ask anybody what they think of when they see a swastika, it is a safe bet that all of them would relate it to the third reich.

As for cringing at me putting words in your mouth, I was relaying what is incredibly common rhetoric amongst defenders trying to reclaim it.

I am sorry to disturb your vril energy but the earliest uses of the swastika dates back to the Neolithic era, about 3500 years before Buddha.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

As for wanting to argue with you, you did get get this one right. I will gladly argue with someone trying to reclaim, repurpose, or defend symbols that have become synonymous with genocide, regardless of their origins.

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Are we on skateboard forum or philosophy class? The symbol you speak isn't synonymous with genocide unless you are narrow minded and have one line of history class. They used the symbol for 15 years, it's been used for 2500 years if not more. I'm sure you can argue your own opinion, if you read more. I don't care to argue with a kid that rebuttals a skateboard forum with this "I was a B student, and my parents think I'm amazing." Have fun instead of looking to fix shit you don't understand. Tell a neo-nazi moron to screw off. I do. You don't.

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Before I get yelled at: I realized nazisim is not a religion, but Germany was socialistic, there was no religion. OP post basically asked what pros are from Israel. Because asking who was a  pro that partakes in Judaism would be a whole different thread. I don't go to jew church. I practice Judaism.

Please read a history book

[bohemian]

hes already fluent in fairytales

[hotservicedeli]

Amazed and confused this thread has gone this far without a single Shalom. Do better pals.

[SHARPSHOOTER]

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So many clicks in skateboarding for ages. Philadelphia skating was definitely separated, not in terms of religion. Everyone had crews they would skate with. Hesh, ratchet hoodrats, Artsy's. To think we are to all just be happy and skate together....unfortunately, it's not like that internationally. Maybe Japan and California were the mental health rate and life expectancy is higher.

I'm not trying to skate with BA or THERE board co. My yellow bum been in jail and the men are savages that stare like I'm meat. Yes I have a phobia of being sodomized.

Plenty of US non profit skate groups have been created to make a safe place for Palestinians to skate. They not allowed into Israel to go shred there awesome modern architecture. If it was only " breakdown social norms" Israeli wall to go shred together with Palestinians.

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Yo, I understand phobias but I’m pretty sure none of them guys are goddamn rapists.

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His phobia seems to be homophobia.

Go to prison and tell us if you’d still feel the same

[Troubadour26]

Anyone nose if Gerwer is Jewish?

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I'm not trying to skate with BA or THERE board co. My yellow bum been in jail and the men are savages that stare like I'm meat. Yes I have a phobia of being sodomized.

on the real though good job for comparing BA (who seems like one of the sweetest people in skateboarding) and the there team to prison rapists.

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I'm not trying to skate with BA or THERE board co. My yellow bum been in jail and the men are savages that stare like I'm meat. Yes I have a phobia of being sodomized.

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on the real though good job for comparing BA (who seems like one of the sweetest people in skateboarding) and the there team to prison rapists.

Yeah @SHARPSHOOTER too nice work gents

[The real veganshawn]

Not a pro skater but the owner of Switch and Signal skatepark is Jewish.