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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4410 on: November 28, 2021, 06:59:29 PM »
Lukewarm take: OJ wheels are no good
super juices are the only exception to this rule

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4411 on: November 28, 2021, 07:00:32 PM »
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Lukewarm take: OJ wheels are no good
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super juices are the only exception to this rule

Eh, I think Plain Jane keyframes would be my exception.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4412 on: November 28, 2021, 07:50:07 PM »
Fair point, their cruiser wheels are fine to good.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4413 on: November 28, 2021, 07:59:15 PM »
Fair point, their cruiser wheels are fine to good.

I think your lukewarm take was the correct one.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4414 on: November 29, 2021, 10:43:37 AM »
The OJ/Santa Cruz 97a feel like a hard wheel with good grip. The 95a MiniLogo wheels feels extremely soft and sluggish.

Ah, shitballs. Well...maybe the minilogos will work out regardless haha.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4415 on: November 29, 2021, 11:36:04 AM »
Has anyone tried Acid wheels? Black Market has the REM formula wheels for $20 right now so I’m tempted to pick up a set. The only feedback I’ve heard from skate shops is “we sell a lot of them”
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4416 on: November 29, 2021, 02:58:21 PM »
Does anybody know which shops in Europe usually get new Spitfire wheels in first? I'm after a set of these OG Fireballs from the latest drop, they're just out in the US but here in Spain we get screwed on customs importing from outside the EU. And I've given up waiting for new radial slims.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4417 on: November 29, 2021, 03:13:15 PM »
Does anybody know which shops in Europe usually get new Spitfire wheels in first? I'm after a set of these OG Fireballs from the latest drop, they're just out in the US but here in Spain we get screwed on customs importing from outside the EU. And I've given up waiting for new radial slims.


A store called Junkyard here in Norway has got them. Don’t know if that counts as EU.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4418 on: November 29, 2021, 09:59:17 PM »
Has anyone skated the 95a NFG formula?  I skated the Spitfire F4 97a conical fulls for a while in the spring and was looking at the 95a NFG v-shape for a similar crust wheel.  I’ve skated the Loophole v-shape before and enjoyed it.  Are the 95a’s still hard enough to use as an everyday street skating wheel like the Spitfire 97a durometer?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4419 on: November 29, 2021, 10:17:53 PM »
Has anyone skated the 95a NFG formula?  I skated the Spitfire F4 97a conical fulls for a while in the spring and was looking at the 95a NFG v-shape for a similar crust wheel.  I’ve skated the Loophole v-shape before and enjoyed it.  Are the 95a’s still hard enough to use as an everyday street skating wheel like the Spitfire 97a durometer?


I've currently got the 58mm 97a Conical Full on one set up and 60mm V Cut 95a NFG on another. Overall they're fairly similar, the 97a are a little harder and faster on smooth ground and the 95a are faster on crusty ground almost like a faster less mushy Keyframe. My biggest surprise was that although they kill crust, the slide is very similar to the 97a spits and in my case, they slide better even though they're softer. My local is really slick and both wheels grip great and slide great there but I found the spits grip a little better where the nfg break into a slide easier. When it comes to street skating, they slide good on ledges and are still hard enough like the spits that flatground feels normal. Overall, the 95a are definitely an awesome wheel and imo the perfect ATV wheel.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4420 on: November 30, 2021, 03:10:43 AM »
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Does anybody know which shops in Europe usually get new Spitfire wheels in first? I'm after a set of these OG Fireballs from the latest drop, they're just out in the US but here in Spain we get screwed on customs importing from outside the EU. And I've given up waiting for new radial slims.
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A store called Junkyard here in Norway has got them. Don’t know if that counts as EU.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Norway is within the EEA so no customs or tax issues, but they don't have the wheels I was after. I'll save the shop, though, looks good.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4421 on: November 30, 2021, 07:17:22 AM »
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Has anyone skated the 95a NFG formula?  I skated the Spitfire F4 97a conical fulls for a while in the spring and was looking at the 95a NFG v-shape for a similar crust wheel.  I’ve skated the Loophole v-shape before and enjoyed it.  Are the 95a’s still hard enough to use as an everyday street skating wheel like the Spitfire 97a durometer?
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I've currently got the 58mm 97a Conical Full on one set up and 60mm V Cut 95a NFG on another. Overall they're fairly similar, the 97a are a little harder and faster on smooth ground and the 95a are faster on crusty ground almost like a faster less mushy Keyframe. My biggest surprise was that although they kill crust, the slide is very similar to the 97a spits and in my case, they slide better even though they're softer. My local is really slick and both wheels grip great and slide great there but I found the spits grip a little better where the nfg break into a slide easier. When it comes to street skating, they slide good on ledges and are still hard enough like the spits that flatground feels normal. Overall, the 95a are definitely an awesome wheel and imo the perfect ATV wheel.

Thanks for the detailed response!  That sounds like exactly what I’m looking for.  I really like the shape and width of the Loophole v-shape but I find them to be a little bumpy/unforgiving on rough ground and sometimes unexpectedly sticky on slides for how hard they are.  Figured I might as well just get a softer wheel in what looks to be the same shape and it sounds like the NFG 95a might be just that. 

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4422 on: November 30, 2021, 11:01:51 AM »
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Has anyone skated the 95a NFG formula?  I skated the Spitfire F4 97a conical fulls for a while in the spring and was looking at the 95a NFG v-shape for a similar crust wheel.  I’ve skated the Loophole v-shape before and enjoyed it.  Are the 95a’s still hard enough to use as an everyday street skating wheel like the Spitfire 97a durometer?
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I've currently got the 58mm 97a Conical Full on one set up and 60mm V Cut 95a NFG on another. Overall they're fairly similar, the 97a are a little harder and faster on smooth ground and the 95a are faster on crusty ground almost like a faster less mushy Keyframe. My biggest surprise was that although they kill crust, the slide is very similar to the 97a spits and in my case, they slide better even though they're softer. My local is really slick and both wheels grip great and slide great there but I found the spits grip a little better where the nfg break into a slide easier. When it comes to street skating, they slide good on ledges and are still hard enough like the spits that flatground feels normal. Overall, the 95a are definitely an awesome wheel and imo the perfect ATV wheel.
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Thanks for the detailed response!  That sounds like exactly what I’m looking for.  I really like the shape and width of the Loophole v-shape but I find them to be a little bumpy/unforgiving on rough ground and sometimes unexpectedly sticky on slides for how hard they are.  Figured I might as well just get a softer wheel in what looks to be the same shape and it sounds like the NFG 95a might be just that.

I've got the NFG 95a crust wheels, and can vouch for them.  They feel grippy and excellent for plowing through debris, but at the same time they feel hard and fast and slide better than I expected.  If you're a wheel graphics lover you'll have to get over it though, the print flakes off within minutes.  Doesn't bother me one bit but someone out there might, maybe?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4423 on: December 01, 2021, 12:15:55 PM »
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Who's got a 50mm wide wheel they really like?  My fat ass is trying to ride this setup without risers for once and the 54s are wheel biting like mad. 

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4424 on: December 01, 2021, 01:41:40 PM »
Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...

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« Reply #4425 on: December 01, 2021, 03:18:04 PM »
I like Tablets for slappies. They lock in great. Conical fulls also. Classics will roll over a curb really nice but won't lock as well. It is nice to have a bit of bite from a wider wheel for grip on a hard carve upon entry.  But I honestly feel any wheel can work for slappies with a few minor adjustments.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4426 on: December 02, 2021, 01:50:57 AM »
Who's got a 50mm wide wheel they really like?  My fat ass is trying to ride this setup without risers for once and the 54s are wheel biting like mad.

Maybe Spitfire Lil Smokies Formula Four, either the tablets or OG classics? They do a 50mm. The tablets aren't wide but the contact patch is, and they're a good price for F4s.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4427 on: December 02, 2021, 02:34:08 AM »
Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...

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« Reply #4428 on: December 02, 2021, 07:22:35 AM »
With the obvious caveat that you will probably get used to anything, I back conical wheels, 100%. Going back after skating Spitfire Classics, I was able to lock into every trick much easier.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4429 on: December 02, 2021, 07:44:54 AM »
Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...

I backed Spitfire Lock-Ins when you could still find them.  Square inside to lock in like a tablet, but more rounded outside to get on.  Would be nice if they brought them back.


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« Reply #4430 on: December 02, 2021, 08:05:26 AM »
With the obvious caveat that you will probably get used to anything, I back conical wheels, 100%. Going back after skating Spitfire Classics, I was able to lock into every trick much easier.

Curious...is this a ledge perspective or transition/coping perspective? Knowing and agreeing that yes you can get used to either.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4431 on: December 02, 2021, 08:06:58 AM »
Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...

The most difficult wheels I’ve tried to slappy with were OG Powell Peralta G Bones. They’re tall and pretty soft (93a?) with a square outer lip. Just didn’t want to climb. They’d either bounce off or stop dead. They totally ate up the shite pavement at that curb, though.  So nothing too big, soft or square.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4432 on: December 02, 2021, 05:28:22 PM »

Who's got a 50mm wide wheel they really like?  My fat ass is trying to ride this setup without risers for once and the 54s are wheel biting like mad.


There are some smaller diameter wheels with wider riding surfaces out there, but a set of old worn down wheels usually works just as well and is a lot easier to come across (for me at least) so usually anything that has been bigger and worn down to the point of retiring would be perfect in that situation.

I just put a worn down set of 54 classics on a board, now between 50 and 51, and they are still great for their size and shape.

Just an option anyway.



Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...


I feel like those people who have the technique down could do them on almost any wheel, so it is not so much which wheel works best for them, but which might help in learning them better for someone who is still getting there, to which I would usually say some bigger rounder wheels seemed to work really well a while back for me, then when I tried on another board with smaller old wheels, it was just as easy, with a bit more control.

The first ones I had were old 60mm unknown brand (but similar to the usual 99 duro) in a classic shape, and they worked really well to just smash up over this slightly lower curb that was good to get them on.

People used to do them on all sorts of wheels, hard and soft, big and bigger in the 80s, then small and smaller from the 90s on, but maybe the bigger rounder wheel is a good way to go.


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« Reply #4433 on: December 03, 2021, 07:40:33 AM »
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With the obvious caveat that you will probably get used to anything, I back conical wheels, 100%. Going back after skating Spitfire Classics, I was able to lock into every trick much easier.
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Curious...is this a ledge perspective or transition/coping perspective? Knowing and agreeing that yes you can get used to either.

Transition and curbs. I barely have any pop to skate ledges anymore.

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« Reply #4434 on: December 03, 2021, 08:03:33 AM »
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With the obvious caveat that you will probably get used to anything, I back conical wheels, 100%. Going back after skating Spitfire Classics, I was able to lock into every trick much easier.
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Curious...is this a ledge perspective or transition/coping perspective? Knowing and agreeing that yes you can get used to either.
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Transition and curbs. I barely have any pop to skate ledges anymore.

Thanks! I was actually swapping my classics back to my conical fulls just as this response came in. Similar experience.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4435 on: December 03, 2021, 08:18:10 AM »
For a 9" egg cruiser with 8.75" trucks, would y'all rather run 87a 56mm OJ plain Jane Keyframes or 90a 60mm Rat Bones reissues?






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« Reply #4436 on: December 03, 2021, 08:54:47 AM »
For a 9" egg cruiser with 8.75" trucks, would y'all rather run 87a 56mm OJ plain Jane Keyframes or 90a 60mm Rat Bones reissues?

personally, 56 keyframes. but it also depends on what you might want to do with your egg time

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« Reply #4437 on: December 03, 2021, 02:02:08 PM »
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For a 9" egg cruiser with 8.75" trucks, would y'all rather run 87a 56mm OJ plain Jane Keyframes or 90a 60mm Rat Bones reissues?
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personally, 56 keyframes. but it also depends on what you might want to do with your egg time

Mostly just use it to surf around the bike paths and skate park as a warm up before hopping on the street board. I love the aesthetic of the ridiculously big neon wheels and they match the deck, but the Keyframes are way lighter and probably more functional

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« Reply #4438 on: December 03, 2021, 05:47:26 PM »
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For a 9" egg cruiser with 8.75" trucks, would y'all rather run 87a 56mm OJ plain Jane Keyframes or 90a 60mm Rat Bones reissues?
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personally, 56 keyframes. but it also depends on what you might want to do with your egg time
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Mostly just use it to surf around the bike paths and skate park as a warm up before hopping on the street board. I love the aesthetic of the ridiculously big neon wheels and they match the deck, but the Keyframes are way lighter and probably more functional

i've given it some thought and i think the big wheels are the way to go lol

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4439 on: December 04, 2021, 04:06:19 PM »
Loopholes came today... This shape looks really good. Just have to wait for it to dry up!!!