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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4440 on: December 04, 2021, 04:40:21 PM »
Loopholes came today... This shape looks really good. Just have to wait for it to dry up!!!

I've been riding the same wheels for a couple weeks now. They are really good wheels. The only thing about them is the graphic comes off really easy. I was able to rub the graphic off with my finger after the first session. Which is fine because I like wheels facing in anyway. Other than that they are amazing.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4441 on: December 04, 2021, 04:44:06 PM »
Curious if anyone is picky about what wheels work best for slappies? I definitely noticed that tablets suck, and it made me wonder if there's an ideal shape (hell, and size?). I'd guess big wheels roll over the edge better, but most slappy guys seem to run relatively small wheels...

Bones V5 - best wheel I've found for how I skate/slappy.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4442 on: December 05, 2021, 04:26:03 AM »
Loopholes came today... This shape looks really good. Just have to wait for it to dry up!!!

you're in for a tonne of fun! (I actually like that the graphics rub off tbh)

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4443 on: December 07, 2021, 11:54:43 AM »

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4444 on: December 07, 2021, 01:07:58 PM »

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4446 on: December 07, 2021, 05:23:51 PM »
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« Reply #4447 on: December 08, 2021, 06:23:47 PM »
I impulsively bought some Loophole wheels, and fuck - you guys are right. I only skated for a half an hour at most, but these are really good wheels.

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« Reply #4448 on: December 08, 2021, 06:56:44 PM »
I impulsively bought some Loophole wheels, and fuck - you guys are right. I only skated for a half an hour at most, but these are really good wheels.
welcome to the dark side!

In response to that meme up there: you obviously haven’t seen me powerlside on my loopholes, I’m fucking channeling Leo Valls on them shits

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4449 on: December 13, 2021, 07:08:03 AM »
Anyone having comparism between 95a NFG Square and Vees in 54mm? I need a real Allrounder for Ledges, Flips and cruisin to the Spots on the streets. Are the Squares comparable to the radial slims which everyone seems to love? Thanks a million!

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« Reply #4450 on: December 13, 2021, 07:52:28 AM »
Anyone having comparism between 95a NFG Square and Vees in 54mm? I need a real Allrounder for Ledges, Flips and cruisin to the Spots on the streets. Are the Squares comparable to the radial slims which everyone seems to love? Thanks a million!

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speaking of loophole, anyone have recent-ish experience or i guess any experience with the square shape? i've stuck to vcut, but for some reason squares have me curious
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I had the 54 squares. They were good and pretty comparable to a spit radial slim. Lock in was nice, but still relatively rounded. Didn’t enjoy them as much as the teardrop shape though, they seemed stickier and a little less consistent on the slide for me.

this post says they were like tablets for them, but yknow everyone's got different experiences

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Long time 1st time... my favorite jawns have been pusher wheels but they're outta the game.. so what's good on dial tone or loopwhole?
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Haven't tried Dialtone but looking at them I'm guessing they're creative. Not basing that on anything concrete, they just have similar molds and packaging to other CU wheels on the market.

Loophole on the other hand... I REALLY like them. The graphics will just slide right off if you rub them and you can definitely tell they were just made by some enterprising skaters in someones garage in SF, but they skate great. For how hard they are (55D or 103a) they're quite a smooth ride, and they're fast and shit and slide like butter. They're a little weird at first - almost too hard and slick - but after you get past the first layer of urethane they have a great combination of grip and slip. Honestly they're probably the second best wheel I've skated behind F4s. Also if you can't find the side or shape you want then check out NFG mfg which is the company that pours them, they have their own line of wheels and have a square shape that I haven't seen on loopholes yet. Don't wait around on them though, they're small batches so they tend to sell out pretty fast. They just put some new 54mm squares up - they're $40 through the site but if you have amazon prime you can order them through amazon and save the shipping cost.
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100% agree. I have the square shape and they are awesome. They are pretty similar, shape wise, to F4 tablets  but with the urethane characteristics you mentioned. The point you mentioned about the feel changing after the first layer is off is true. At first mine slid like ice all over the place but after two or three sessions they started to grip better and now its a nice balance.

The V shape was a little too square for me as I power slide a lot and the wheel edges would catch too much on nooks and crannies in the street. The slightly more rounded edge of the “square” shape doesn’t seem to have that problem.

all this being said, the vees really do plow through anything so as far as cruising to the spots on the streets, they have you covered. i have them on most of my boards at this point, both 95 (love these) and the 103 which the doesn't feel awful on the roads, to me at least.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4451 on: December 13, 2021, 07:57:07 AM »
Anyone having comparism between 95a NFG Square and Vees in 54mm? I need a real Allrounder for Ledges, Flips and cruisin to the Spots on the streets. Are the Squares comparable to the radial slims which everyone seems to love? Thanks a million!

I have the harder square and v shape and the squares are more like tablets imo

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4452 on: December 13, 2021, 09:12:17 AM »
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Anyone having comparism between 95a NFG Square and Vees in 54mm? I need a real Allrounder for Ledges, Flips and cruisin to the Spots on the streets. Are the Squares comparable to the radial slims which everyone seems to love? Thanks a million!
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I have the harder square and v shape and the squares are more like tablets imo
I've got the 95a squares and I'd say they're somewhere in between a tablet and radial.  I was comparing them side by side to a tablet that I have and they definitely have more rounding on the edge, but not as much as a radial slim.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4453 on: December 14, 2021, 07:45:19 AM »
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Anyone having comparism between 95a NFG Square and Vees in 54mm? I need a real Allrounder for Ledges, Flips and cruisin to the Spots on the streets. Are the Squares comparable to the radial slims which everyone seems to love? Thanks a million!
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I have the harder square and v shape and the squares are more like tablets imo
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I've got the 95a squares and I'd say they're somewhere in between a tablet and radial.  I was comparing them side by side to a tablet that I have and they definitely have more rounding on the edge, but not as much as a radial slim.
Here is a side by side comparison with the wheels in question if it's at all helpful. After further comparison the NFG square and Spitfire Radial slims are really close in shape.



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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4454 on: December 14, 2021, 10:58:10 AM »
Wow!!! Thank You guys a lot for your helpful answers! I will give the 54 Squares a try. Really curious about the 95a formula.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4455 on: December 14, 2021, 11:58:13 AM »
Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4456 on: December 14, 2021, 06:08:55 PM »
Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!

I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4457 on: December 14, 2021, 06:58:35 PM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.

wait which is out of stock, my dude?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4458 on: December 14, 2021, 08:35:29 PM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.

Haha I’m having the same struggle with those 57mm Kaders. My wife got me the 60’s for Xmas, but this scarcity thing has me wanting to get the smaller ones while they are still around

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4459 on: December 14, 2021, 08:59:51 PM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?

My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4460 on: December 14, 2021, 10:43:52 PM »
That BOGO deal on the Square 54s is pretty nice. I do think they have the contact patch misprinted on the site though. If you look at the Teardrop shape, they list the same width and contact patch. You can tell the Squares have a wider patch just by looking at them. Judging by those pictures of the F4 Radial slims I'm gonna guess 19mm?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4461 on: December 14, 2021, 11:06:24 PM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
I had one of the early batch square sets that I’d imagine would probably be a factory second these days. They’re now at 51mm and still in regular rotation. They have the edge over my 53mm F4 Radials. Similar lock, NFGs wear more evenly, have a smoother slide on my pavement, and are a little less rattly than the F4s.

Lately I’ve been on some 97a conical fulls but am dying to ride some NFG 95a.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4462 on: December 15, 2021, 09:01:09 AM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.

Last night at my local it was super humid, I’m the only guy that rides loopholes, the ground started to get slick as fuck, everyone else on spits, I was the only one still able to do shit on flat, they grip when they need to and slide when you want them to, I won’t be switching wheel brands anytime soon
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« Reply #4463 on: December 15, 2021, 09:03:49 AM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
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Last night at my local it was super humid, I’m the only guy that rides loopholes, the ground started to get slick as fuck, everyone else on spits, I was the only one still able to do shit on flat, they grip when they need to and slide when you want them to, I won’t be switching wheel brands anytime soon

So.... Are you suggesting I buy more wheels?

I wish they did the square or vee shape in 52mm, I'm not hesh enough to ride anything bigger than 53 and I'm not a fan of the teardrop / classic shape
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FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4464 on: December 15, 2021, 11:45:49 AM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
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Last night at my local it was super humid, I’m the only guy that rides loopholes, the ground started to get slick as fuck, everyone else on spits, I was the only one still able to do shit on flat, they grip when they need to and slide when you want them to, I won’t be switching wheel brands anytime soon
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So.... Are you suggesting I buy more wheels?

I wish they did the square or vee shape in 52mm, I'm not hesh enough to ride anything bigger than 53 and I'm not a fan of the teardrop / classic shape

I skate street enough to warrant the 54s they wear down nicely as well
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« Reply #4465 on: December 16, 2021, 02:24:03 AM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
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Last night at my local it was super humid, I’m the only guy that rides loopholes, the ground started to get slick as fuck, everyone else on spits, I was the only one still able to do shit on flat, they grip when they need to and slide when you want them to, I won’t be switching wheel brands anytime soon
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So.... Are you suggesting I buy more wheels?

I wish they did the square or vee shape in 52mm, I'm not hesh enough to ride anything bigger than 53 and I'm not a fan of the teardrop / classic shape

Just to tempt you a bit more the last couple of sets of 54s I’ve had have been 53mm - I think I read somewhere that they’ve changed their moulds to be more accurate now though?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4466 on: December 16, 2021, 03:19:23 AM »
Just get the 54s, they’re not that big in the scheme of things. They’ll also be your gateway drug to 56 v-cuts …

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« Reply #4467 on: December 16, 2021, 08:35:11 AM »
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Dang, I stand corrected, looks more like radial slim!
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I can feel the money loosening from my wallet, guess that will be my Xmas treat to myself.

Edit: out of stock at NFG and Loophole wheels.
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wait which is out of stock, my dude?
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My bad, thought it was just 1 SKU in Square 54mm, not the entire range.

The BOGO offer is solid (https://www.nfgmfg.com/product-page/54mm-square), wider than a Radial Slim with a narrower contact patch based on the provided specs. 54mm is bigger than I usually like but 51mm on a 8.25 deck is beginning to look ridiculous.

Hopefully these wheels are as good as you guys claim.
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Last night at my local it was super humid, I’m the only guy that rides loopholes, the ground started to get slick as fuck, everyone else on spits, I was the only one still able to do shit on flat, they grip when they need to and slide when you want them to, I won’t be switching wheel brands anytime soon
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So.... Are you suggesting I buy more wheels?

I wish they did the square or vee shape in 52mm, I'm not hesh enough to ride anything bigger than 53 and I'm not a fan of the teardrop / classic shape
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Just to tempt you a bit more the last couple of sets of 54s I’ve had have been 53mm - I think I read somewhere that they’ve changed their moulds to be more accurate now though?

Well I did DM them like a man and they said no plans for a 52mm Square or Vee yet. I already have 2 sets of Square 54mm on the way, if they are good I'll stock up on more.

How is their 103a compared to a Bones 103a and F4 99a?
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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« Reply #4468 on: December 16, 2021, 08:44:14 AM »
Can‘t speak for the bones comparison but I find them pretty similar in terms of hardness to 99a spits, a little harder. Something about them is more forgiving though, like on the streets they are really comfortable yet still definitely faster. I feel like the loopholes have far better rebound or something.

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« Reply #4469 on: December 16, 2021, 09:03:23 AM »
Can‘t speak for the bones comparison but I find them pretty similar in terms of hardness to 99a spits, a little harder. Something about them is more forgiving though, like on the streets they are really comfortable yet still definitely faster. I feel like the loopholes have far better rebound or something.

Definitely interesting, faster but more forgiving, that makes my think about the 103a instead of the 95a. I would like to know how the 95a NFGs compare to the spits 97a vs 99a (knowing that the size and form play a major role).