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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5490 on: August 14, 2022, 12:35:20 PM »
So far the most impressive thing about these wheels is their ability to cause virtual interpersonal conflict.

It's all just that one kook picking fights with several different people.

Sorry for derailing the thread. That was about the tenth time he's said something about me, including going through every single page of my post history to comment about me skating Fallens 10 years ago. Going back to ignoring him.
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« Reply #5491 on: August 14, 2022, 01:00:06 PM »
Hey Kook here, there's several of us disagreeing with you. Now Ben Degros too. I clicked on the last 2 pages of your history which took about 3 minutes. It's a useful thing to do sometimes, like when a poster was going on about not getting Ventures loose enough yet posted a trick tip asking about how to do 50-50's on a curb. Sometimes it provides valuable context.

In your case you were making a debunked claim that some wheels slid and grinded as good as 99 F4, then later that you didn't do much of that. You were one of the first posters who come up in a Google search and that context might be useful to someone trying to find an accurate review.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5492 on: August 14, 2022, 01:19:06 PM »
Hey Kook here, there's several of us disagreeing with you. Now Ben Degros too. I clicked on the last 2 pages of your history which took about 3 minutes. It's a useful thing to do sometimes, like when a poster was going on about not getting Ventures loose enough yet posted a trick tip asking about how to do 50-50's on a curb. Sometimes it provides valuable context.

In your case you were making a debunked claim that some wheels slid and grinded as good as 99 F4, then later that you didn't do much of that. You were one of the first posters who come up in a Google search and that context might be useful to someone trying to find an accurate review.

You are delusional or illiterate. There's others disagreeing, you are the only one starting arguments over and over again with several users across multiple threads.

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And you said the slide is comparable, both on ledges and powerslides in the street?
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They are slightly harder to initiate slides but in a way that you can get used to. Once you start sliding they are similar in slideability but more controllable. The initiating is slightly worse, but the actual slide and revert are better in my opinion.

From what everyone has said: depending on the combination of surface and the grind you might run into some friction issues, but it's kind of hard to predict. It doesn't seem like any grinds are bad enough to be a deal breaker.

They have so many upsides over F4 99a that it's worth those small trade offs. Just be patient the first week getting used to the slide difference and you will fall in love with everything else about them. These wheels are really something else.

I made it very clear from the start I was talking about them sliding on ground. Everything else was me summarizing videos and posts from others. And its EXACTLY what Ben Degros said in the video: It depends on the grind and the surface, but nothing is a deal breaker.

EDIT: Here, I bolded everything for you to help with your reading comprehension issues.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5493 on: August 14, 2022, 01:42:36 PM »

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« Reply #5494 on: August 14, 2022, 01:43:55 PM »
Alright dude I give up you win, but July 22nd wasn't your first post and argument about em.

Anyways, giving these a shot at the slappy spot tomorrow that is slightly uphill and see if I can get used to em better. 95s could be my ticket if they do angle iron better so I can also use them at home on my ramps.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5495 on: August 14, 2022, 02:59:16 PM »


lol



You are delusional or illiterate. There's others disagreeing, you are the only one starting arguments over and over again with several users across multiple threads.

That's what he does, dude. He likes to argue/stir shit up. Just look at his post history; He'll dig up a post from 10yrs ago to hopefully score a win.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5496 on: August 14, 2022, 05:25:44 PM »
Who knew a longboard wheel would be such a disruptor……..reverse kingpin tensor would be something else…

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« Reply #5497 on: August 14, 2022, 05:30:44 PM »
I've done that twice, once to Fuzzy-boi, once to the example I gave above. Usually when you want to frame an argument and gain context you try to gather some sort of background evidence and if you are an adult with average reading speed the extra 5 minutes can potentially save you some headache in trying gear recommend by a neurotic person that probably isn't even skilled enough or stringent enough in a analyzing something for it to matter.

Y'all just wanna pick on me and not the other posters saying the same shit albeit more diplomatically because it's easier for you and then you can deflect the actual argument I might be making. Like you and when you told me to step up and try Royals since I bashed them and I did, noted where I was wrong, and you still were a turd. But not before sending a message and blocking me like a child so I couldn't respond.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5498 on: August 14, 2022, 06:30:01 PM »

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5499 on: August 14, 2022, 06:34:26 PM »
Huh, I actually didn't know that's how the ignore function worked (good to know) as you are the first and only ignore.

Truth be told, I was hoping it would wipe your entire presence from my feed/view of the forum, e.g, hiding each and every one of your posts due to not valuing your opinion; I didn't know it only blocked messages. When I could still 'see' you I figured the feature was broken.

Shame it doesn't work that way, cuz here we are.

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Anyway, wheels. Based on all cumulative data prior to, and post release, it was plain as day as what we were going to get (and they delivered).

Personally, as a 'powell' branded wheel, they nailed the 93a drop.

The forthcoming 'Bones-X' formula, that's the market 'we' should really be looking at when making critical comparisons to the current champ (spit) and second place STFs @ 99a/101a/103a+

Why TF do you think they put the first release, a 93a, under Powell in the first place...they know exactly which market [re-issues] they are targeting and surely knew it wouldn't compete with F4s/STFs or it would have had Bones branding...you know, like if they made a 90a and put it under ML.





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« Reply #5500 on: August 14, 2022, 07:53:13 PM »
The best discourse is when you choose to blatantly ignore someone that contributes even when they eventually do it in a manner that is desired.

I agree with your conclusion. I tested the prototypes thinking that maybe Bones would release all of them and wasn't a fan aside from on bad asphalt. Kinda still thought the production would be better (it is), but figured $40 isn't much to try out if they end up being better.

Once we are getting up to 97a I'm wondering how much of this "soft but slides" will still be left. That smoothness is going to diminish if it's anything like the 93 to 95 to 97 difference in the protos.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5501 on: August 14, 2022, 11:10:31 PM »
Nobody looks good losing his cool over skateboard wheels, brehs.
why come?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5502 on: August 15, 2022, 03:21:06 AM »
Anyone tried those 93a dragons on slippery metalramps?
Sometimes I ride a very slippery metal ramp nearby which I cannot ride on bones stf and spitfire 99a.

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« Reply #5503 on: August 15, 2022, 04:02:25 AM »
Anyone tried those 93a dragons on slippery metalramps?
Sometimes I ride a very slippery metal ramp nearby which I cannot ride on bones stf and spitfire 99a.

I got cut off by earbudded skater and tried to swerve off the side of a metal quarter pipe and went down hard. It was a hard angle but I was surprised. Not as slick as a new pair of F4s but slick nonetheless.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5504 on: August 15, 2022, 09:37:56 AM »
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Except our pall Fuzz and a few other minions, but fuck it, it's wheels, try them and if you hate them sell them. It's not a house.
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Dude, you have an unhealthily obsession with me. You gotta chill with that. I've been ignoring you, but it's getting out of hand.

Have you ever been checked for a learning disorder, specifically in regards to reading comprehension? I never once said I personally grinded with these wheels as you keep continually lying about.

People entered the thread asking about the wheels and I summarized what other users already said in the thread. I also summarized those kooked out vlogs so no one else has to watch that shit. I am able to watch them on a second monitor while working, not everyone has the luxury to waste 25 mins of their life watching some barely editted vlogs like you and I do.

I said "grinds seem to depend on the type of grind and the surface, but nothing seems to really be a deal breaker" and you started crying about how bad you are at crooks and how you're afraid to skate faster when doing slappy grinds, and started flaming and saying everyone who disagrees with you is bad at skating.

Guess what. Ben did crooks, bluntslides, and lipslides and said that these wheels were 8/10 slides for all of them when compared to hard ass wheels. He literally is agreeing with everyone in the thread besides you, while you are tweaking out and insulting people for disagreeing with you.

Someone posted a video of them doing a crooked grind slappy saying they grind great and you went "no, actually they didn't grind great for you" and started an argument with them.

I'm not sure what's going on in your personal life, but you're giving me major divorced-guy energy right now with how you keep acting. Quit being a freak.

It's not just you dude, I feel like he follows me around the forum/can't let someone else have the last post in a thread he argued in; He's got issues.

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« Reply #5505 on: August 15, 2022, 12:14:20 PM »
Answering both of you at once: I don't follow either of you around, you just post in a lot of gear threads as do I and we don't disagree so you remember what I post more.

Yah, I am autistic and also have ADHD and OCD thanks for asking! I really don't read text walls too well on my phone when I am often posting and speed read a lot of stuff. Ergo, my memory for what was said and precisely when it was said is not as great as it is for things that actually matter in life. In the rest of said life I'm actually a technical writer and Machine Learning Eng so yes, I think reading comprehension is OK when I care, but this is fucking Slap of all places.

I think ya'll are taking what I am saying too seriously. I view conversation on Slap as banter that I would have with people I know. People don't often have to agree on shit and can argue and still not hate one another. I dunno what the internet does to people to take it too personally.

I never said I was afraid to do crooks or slappies what on earth are you talking about? I bought these wheels to do those faster at an asphalt slappy spot haha. I mostly dislike them at skateparks and on my DIY ramps in front of my house, which is on an asphalt street (with angle iron and galvanized coping) and again a place where I hoped they would do well. It took Ben making a video for you to believe what myself and @tzhangdox were saying all along.

Why don't you film yourself doing either a normal or slappy crook and I will do the same and we can compare? Maybe include something with coping, a normal cement ledge, and a curb? I've skated with a few people on here and I think all of them would note that is probably my go-to trick so it's something I focus on providing feedback on. I don't like waxing shit and rely on speed, so a wheel catching and slowing down is a deal-breaker.

I agree with Ben, who I am quoting "they slide almost as well, if not better than STF, but are way slower than an F4", which is what I/others ride and are comparing them too. You said they were as good as F4 for grinds and slides hence our original tiff

So now that I have clarified yet again maybe you should do some introspection on your own memory recall, but I won't stoop as low to bring up learning disorders since yes, I have several, and have spent most of my life trying to learn how to communicate better with myself and colleagues and know how frustrating it can be to not be able to converse normally without significant effort.

You're also the one that insulted me by calling me a kook. I do not recall insulting you, just said that you admit you can't or don't do basic grinds and that your last 2 pages of your post history indicate that you nerd out on small details of wheels and never seem fully happy with anything. I hope you are finally at peace with your Powell Dragons!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5506 on: August 15, 2022, 12:23:56 PM »
I was waiting for that card to be played (again).

Anyway, we’re all kooks here.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5507 on: August 15, 2022, 12:54:55 PM »
everyone arguing here needs to meet at the playground for a powerslide contest

that will settle it once and for all

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« Reply #5508 on: August 15, 2022, 01:38:42 PM »
I was waiting for that card to be played (again).

Anyway, we’re all kooks here.

What card?

See your last statement I totally agree with. We'd probably actually get along in real life.

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« Reply #5509 on: August 15, 2022, 05:29:30 PM »
I would really like some Spitfire Radials although I 100% do not need them. I really wish they made more of Radials and Radial Slims because I really don't get the point of the conical angled sidewalls, which somehow catch on cracks and I get train-tracked.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5510 on: August 15, 2022, 05:33:09 PM »
Saw some acid side cuts. Looked nice but it’s hard to stray from spitfire and worry about flat spots and slide etc
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5511 on: August 15, 2022, 06:19:45 PM »
So is the problem with the way the marketing of these has been handled? Sort of like they took a page out of the Cariuma book and just flooded the zone?

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« Reply #5512 on: August 15, 2022, 06:25:00 PM »
Anyone skating pig prime formula?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5513 on: August 15, 2022, 08:15:23 PM »
All this dragon talk got me on some V3 STF’s…..

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« Reply #5514 on: August 15, 2022, 08:59:29 PM »
All this dragon talk got me on some V3 STF’s…..

Been on some V2s since they are nearly identical (just a tad slimmer) to radial slims - which until today were hard as fuck to find and I am pretty sure will continue to be - and a set of V5s. Fucking love that shape.

I find I blunt slide better on 103 STFs than 101 F4s ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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« Reply #5515 on: August 15, 2022, 09:13:22 PM »
I would really like some Spitfire Radials although I 100% do not need them. I really wish they made more of Radials and Radial Slims because I really don't get the point of the conical angled sidewalls, which somehow catch on cracks and I get train-tracked.

Tactics has radial slims randomly in stock though only 52/54mm in 101A. I had a couple sets of 51mm 101A a few years back and loved them FWIW

https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slim-skateboard-wheels/venomous-101d

*Edit: While I'm here, SkateWarehouse has lock ins in stock now too - 52mm 99A

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Lock-In_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4L9WH.html

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #5516 on: August 15, 2022, 09:58:59 PM »
I've weaned myself off radial slims and won't go back to them until they become a regular drop.

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« Reply #5517 on: August 15, 2022, 10:19:42 PM »
I've actually never ridden Bones because I haven't taken the time to decode all their formulas and shapes. What's the equivalent of a 99 F4?

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« Reply #5518 on: August 15, 2022, 10:22:02 PM »
I love a Conical Full, but I've literally only skated the F4s in 101 and 97. I've got my 101s worn down from 54 to probably ~50mm now, so I'll probably want some freshies soon - should I fuck with 99a? I almost have a hard time believing there would be a noticeable difference between 101 and 99.

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« Reply #5519 on: August 15, 2022, 11:03:40 PM »
I've actually never ridden Bones because I haven't taken the time to decode all their formulas and shapes. What's the equivalent of a 99 F4?

Don't bother they suck

I love a Conical Full, but I've literally only skated the F4s in 101 and 97. I've got my 101s worn down from 54 to probably ~50mm now, so I'll probably want some freshies soon - should I fuck with 99a? I almost have a hard time believing there would be a noticeable difference between 101 and 99.

I've ridden the 99A and 101A in radial slim shape (52mm and 51mm, respectively). I wouldn't say there's a huge difference outside of what you can just assume. Obligatory Ben video share since he can probably articulate the differences a lot better than I