Wheels Thread

[Plan9Customs]

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@Mbrimson88 just wanted to say thanks for posting your wheel rehab with the grinder. Got me wondering if I could use my bushing shaping fixture with wheels.



Works well. I just need to make a sanding block with the radius I want so they’ll be consistent. I’ll toss finished pics up when I get it dialed in.

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Yo post the radius block too! I’m afraid I don’t have steady enough hand to try with out some sort of fixture or something to keep them consistent. So basically I’m trying to steal your idea haha

Will do when I get around to it. Plan is toss a radius gauge on a good wheel, trace that into a block of wood & cut it out about 1/16” maybe 1/8” lower to accommodate for Velcro and sand paper, chuck the wheel into the drill press, spin and stop once I hit my stop tape line, flip it and repeat. Just go from 40-80-180-320 and don’t rush it.

[Mbrimson88]

@Mbrimson88 just wanted to say thanks for posting your wheel rehab with the grinder. Got me wondering if I could use my bushing shaping fixture with wheels.

Works well. I just need to make a sanding block with the radius I want so they’ll be consistent. I’ll toss finished pics up when I get it dialed in.

So good!!!


Making those from what would be considered "dead" old wheels is fun.

Having the tools to do a high quality finish is even better.

[Steely Daniel]

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Im looking for a good all round wheel for the shitty pavement on the way to the skatepark and feeling alright when i get there. Also be able to powerslide on both surfaces. I currently swap between 86a ricta clouds and 99a f4 classics and its a pain. My options are

F4 conical full 54mm 97a (30% off local shop)
Or
54mm dragon wheels (order online)

What do you guys think?

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Im skating the f4 97duro, Classic shape 56mm (now 55-54) and i really like them. You can feel them Just a little softer than a F4 99 and you can still slide and powerslide really good. Very fast on the street too. You'll be able to powerslide everywhere, from marble to concrete to street.

Do they still make these or do you just have to find old stock? I don't see the 97 duro listed in their new catalogue.

I'm going between 56mm dragons and 56mm conical full f4 99a spitfires. I enjoy the general ride of the dragons since the ground is bad everywhere here including the skatepark, but they often stick and pitch me when I'm trying tailsides on concrete transition. The Powell wheels feel nice on my old bones, if a little bouncy, but the spits slid so well it scared the shit outta me. 97a f4 in the same shape and size seems perfect but I couldn't find them anywhere in Canada. Had a hard enough time finding the 99s in the specs I was looking for.

[Mbrimson88]

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Im looking for a good all round wheel for the shitty pavement on the way to the skatepark and feeling alright when i get there. Also be able to powerslide on both surfaces. I currently swap between 86a ricta clouds and 99a f4 classics and its a pain. My options are

F4 conical full 54mm 97a (30% off local shop)
Or
54mm dragon wheels (order online)

What do you guys think?

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Im skating the f4 97duro, Classic shape 56mm (now 55-54) and i really like them. You can feel them Just a little softer than a F4 99 and you can still slide and powerslide really good. Very fast on the street too. You'll be able to powerslide everywhere, from marble to concrete to street.

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Do they still make these or do you just have to find old stock? I don't see the 97 duro listed in their new catalogue.

I'm going between 56mm dragons and 56mm conical full f4 99a spitfires. I enjoy the general ride of the dragons since the ground is bad everywhere here including the skatepark, but they often stick and pitch me when I'm trying tailsides on concrete transition. The Powell wheels feel nice on my old bones, if a little bouncy, but the spits slid so well it scared the shit outta me. 97a f4 in the same shape and size seems perfect but I couldn't find them anywhere in Canada. Had a hard enough time finding the 99s in the specs I was looking for.

The 97 duro Spitfire Formula Four wheels are definitely still around, but stock might be limited in your local area.

Size and shape might come and go a bit as well, eg the 56 seemed to be dropped in favour of the 54 and 58mm sizes in Conial Full for 97s, but Classic came out in 53, 54 and 56mm.

There are some more on the way too, from what others have said.

[Xen]

If anyone stateside wants a gently used pair of the 97a spits let me know (will provide pics) and we'll work something out...willing to trade.

[Creachteach]

Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[goodatmeth]

Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[rocklobster]

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

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They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

What if the Dragon / X Formula wheels are Powell's way of fucking with us and they are just rebranded 90a / 95a Mini Logo stuff?

[Mbrimson88]

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

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They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

Yes to that.

The Mini Logo 90 and 95 duro wheels are excellent on slippery surfaces, from the couple of sets I had and tested, with the 90s having a lot more stick and the 95 having a bit more even mix of slip and slide without feeling like I was going to slip right out.

They skate like they are just the cheaper "price point" versions of the same compounds that are used for the more expensive Bones and Powell wheels, only these are mass produced in China, so are without a team, marketing, branding, etc which all add up to higher prices at the retail end.

[Creachteach]

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

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They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

Thanks man! They sound like the exact thing I’m looking for 

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[close]

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[close]

Yes to that.

The Mini Logo 90 and 95 duro wheels are excellent on slippery surfaces, from the couple of sets I had and tested, with the 90s having a lot more stick and the 95 having a bit more even mix of slip and slide without feeling like I was going to slip right out.

They skate like they are just the cheaper "price point" versions of the same compounds that are used for the more expensive Bones and Powell wheels, only these are mass produced in China, so are without a team, marketing, branding, etc which all add up to higher prices at the retail end.

I’ll probably try a set, just going from your recommendations here. I just found out there’s an online shop selling off older stock Bones STF 99a at almost mini logo prices, so might as well get both.

I’ll just have to find out for myself how bad/good they stick to the wood/rails. It’s almost science finding the right balance.
My F4s are breaking in nicely, and getting a bit more grip now, but they can still slip and slide on the plywood. They’re also 57mm and I think they’re making my setup too tall, for the short (6.3”) tail, as I’m getting ghost pop a lot.

It’s really good to have you knowledgable people around for noobs like me. Thanks for taking the time to school me.

[huggernaut]

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[close]

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[close]

Thanks man! They sound like the exact thing I’m looking for 

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[close]

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[close]

Yes to that.

The Mini Logo 90 and 95 duro wheels are excellent on slippery surfaces, from the couple of sets I had and tested, with the 90s having a lot more stick and the 95 having a bit more even mix of slip and slide without feeling like I was going to slip right out.

They skate like they are just the cheaper "price point" versions of the same compounds that are used for the more expensive Bones and Powell wheels, only these are mass produced in China, so are without a team, marketing, branding, etc which all add up to higher prices at the retail end.

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I’ll probably try a set, just going from your recommendations here. I just found out there’s an online shop selling off older stock Bones STF 99a at almost mini logo prices, so might as well get both.

I’ll just have to find out for myself how bad/good they stick to the wood/rails. It’s almost science finding the right balance.
My F4s are breaking in nicely, and getting a bit more grip now, but they can still slip and slide on the plywood. They’re also 57mm and I think they’re making my setup too tall, for the short (6.3”) tail, as I’m getting ghost pop a lot.

It’s really good to have you knowledgable people around for noobs like me. Thanks for taking the time to school me.

What shop?   

[Creachteach]

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[close]

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[close]

Thanks man! They sound like the exact thing I’m looking for 

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Hey, what is you guys take on the Mini Logo 95a wheels?

For that indoor dusty wood.
I could almost get two sets and change for the price of one set of other brand wheels.

I figure I’d want to try 54mm wheel w/o risers, for a setup that’s 4,5mm lower, and 56mm.

[close]

They're really nice if you want some grip on slippery surfaces. Also great for cruising around, smooth on bad ground.
You can still powerslide a little, but they're generally sticky on pinched grinds.

[close]

Yes to that.

The Mini Logo 90 and 95 duro wheels are excellent on slippery surfaces, from the couple of sets I had and tested, with the 90s having a lot more stick and the 95 having a bit more even mix of slip and slide without feeling like I was going to slip right out.

They skate like they are just the cheaper "price point" versions of the same compounds that are used for the more expensive Bones and Powell wheels, only these are mass produced in China, so are without a team, marketing, branding, etc which all add up to higher prices at the retail end.

[close]

I’ll probably try a set, just going from your recommendations here. I just found out there’s an online shop selling off older stock Bones STF 99a at almost mini logo prices, so might as well get both.

I’ll just have to find out for myself how bad/good they stick to the wood/rails. It’s almost science finding the right balance.
My F4s are breaking in nicely, and getting a bit more grip now, but they can still slip and slide on the plywood. They’re also 57mm and I think they’re making my setup too tall, for the short (6.3”) tail, as I’m getting ghost pop a lot.

It’s really good to have you knowledgable people around for noobs like me. Thanks for taking the time to school me.

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What shop?   

I’m almost afraid to tell you, cause 1) I’ll get accused of being affiliated with them or working there. Even though I can assure you I don’t. Not even same country. 2) you’ll buy all the wheels I want.

It’s Titus. In Germany. They have 40% on a lot of wheels and boards. Probably also clothes and shoes, but I’m not terribly interested in that stuff.

[DillsDarts]

Just curious what the difference is between the spitfire classics & the big heads? From the little I can find online, they look like a classic with only a wider riding surface?

[logjammin]

^ yes.

[LebowskisRug]

Classics come in F4 Bigheads don't

[Mbrimson88]

^^ Yes and yes.

Just curious what the difference is between the spitfire classics & the big heads? From the little I can find online, they look like a classic with only a wider riding surface?

As the others said, initially the Big Head shape was a wider profile round wheel and almost every graphic came in that shape for a minute back in the mid 00s it seemed as I had a lot of them, from 54mm through 56, 57 and 58mm more commonly and some 59 and 61mm sizes too.  Even the Classic blue swirl 56mm wheels seemed about that wide, but now all of those have slimmed down a bit, when comparing new stock to the old OG formula Spitfire wheels from that period.

In the newer Formula Four wheels, the Classic Full shape is the same as the Big Head shape, which were readily available a while back, but seem like they are pretty scarce again right now.

I really like the wider wheel, wider contact patch but still with rounder sides, so these have appealed to me for a long time.

Wearing down normal Classic wheels a couple of mm gives about the same shape as Classic Full / Big Head shape too, eg Classic 55mm worn down to 54mm are about the same as the 54mm Classic Full / Big Head wheels.


Spitfire Wheel size and shapes in this post in the Spitfire thread pretty much have it all covered for you to look at:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3759408#msg3759408


Basic pic here:

[Cthulhu!]

I decided to spoil myself. I grabbed a set of 99a OJ Elites. Their "Hardline" shape, which is just a slightly wide, conical cut. I drove out to a beautiful concrete park and they were great. Grippier than 99a F4s in my opinion, which is what I was looking for. That kind of chalky, bleached white feeling got to me.

I think this is love. At least, love in a smooth park setting. I am breaking up with Bones SPFs.

[Creachteach]

I decided to spoil myself. I grabbed a set of 99a OJ Elites. Their "Hardline" shape, which is just a slightly wide, conical cut. I drove out to a beautiful concrete park and they were great. Grippier than 99a F4s in my opinion, which is what I was looking for. That kind of chalky, bleached white feeling got to me.

I think this is love. At least, love in a smooth park setting. I am breaking up with Bones SPFs.

I’ve been wondering about them. They sound wonderful. What size did you get for what truck/riser combo?

[pops]

Thinking of getting a harder wheel for my cruiser setup. Is there noticable differences between Spits CF and Slimeballs 97a?

[goodatmeth]

Thinking of getting a harder wheel for my cruiser setup. Is there noticable differences between Spits CF and Slimeballs 97a?

Spits feel softer/smoother and slide better at the same time.
Slimeballs 97a are kinda bad in my opinion, they feel hard like a 99a but don't slide well.

[eviltgirl]

Thinking of getting a harder wheel for my cruiser setup. Is there noticable differences between Spits CF and Slimeballs 97a?

The slimeball 97s are pretty shitty imo, they somehow feel harder, AND roll slower than a f4 99a.  I'd recommend the 97 spitfires theyre pretty legit I have them in the 58mm CF for crustier spots and pushing around.

[bombsaway86]

Thinking of getting a harder wheel for my cruiser setup. Is there noticable differences between Spits CF and Slimeballs 97a?

Are you just cruising on it or are you planning on doing tricks too? What wheels are you currently riding on it?

Slimeballs feel unresponsive and take a lot of effort to get speed at the skatepark. They’re pretty grippy, but you can still slide them with some extra effort. Like others have said, they feel like a 99a wheel so they might not be the best choice if you’re cruising on crusty stuff.

I’ve only ridden the 97a Spitfires on friends boards at the park. They also feel slow in the park, but also feel noticeably softer and more comfortable than slimeballs. I imagine that would translate to a more comfortable ride in the streets. I can’t personally account for how they slide, but the consensus here is that they still slide pretty well.

If you’re just cruising around and not doing tricks, my recommendation would be OJ super juices.

I also met one dude who was a pretty decent street skater that was using the OJ mini super juice (55mm 78a) on his daily driver. He was more into flip tricks than grinds, but he didn’t seem to have any problem flipping his board with the mini juices.
 

[j....soy.....]

This is so last month but…..Dragons…

[manysnakes]

I also met one dude who was a pretty decent street skater that was using the OJ mini super juice (55mm 78a) on his daily driver. He was more into flip tricks than grinds, but he didn’t seem to have any problem flipping his board with the mini juices.

There are some local dudes who skate SOFT wheels. None of them are insane gnar dogs but they’re all good skaters with style and they seem perfectly used to their setups.

[Plan9Customs]

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@Mbrimson88 just wanted to say thanks for posting your wheel rehab with the grinder. Got me wondering if I could use my bushing shaping fixture with wheels.



Works well. I just need to make a sanding block with the radius I want so they’ll be consistent. I’ll toss finished pics up when I get it dialed in.

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Yo post the radius block too! I’m afraid I don’t have steady enough hand to try with out some sort of fixture or something to keep them consistent. So basically I’m trying to steal your idea haha

Did a quick mock up before I made it out of steel.


Just drilled the block out to 7/8”, cut a piece of 7/8” .065(1/16” wall) tubing to the radius of the Spitfire classic shape, epoxied it to the block, stuck some Velcro onto that(I use Velcro sandpaper at work, that’s what I have), carriage bolt with a truck top washer on the top of the wheel, 2 nuts(one to tighten and the other for a lock nut) chuck it into a drill press and spin them down. It actually works really good so I’m going to steel for a permanent one.
Just make sure you measure how wide you want your riding surface to be and mark it out with some masking tape so you know when to stop on each side.

[pops]

Thanks for all the responses on my question. I have a set of mini juices  from last summer so maybe I'll just stick to them fro now. I actually like them alot but was looking for a harder wheel for change  I'll probably check out the 97 spits or dragons when they're on discount.

[Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum]

Mini juice come in an 87a now also.

[IrritableBowel2]

Has anyone experienced a wobbly Dragon wheel? I have one that no matter how many times I unseat the bearings, or even swap out seems to have a wobbly roll and it feels sorta weird like my truck is loose, but it's not. 

[eviltgirl]

Has anyone experienced a wobbly Dragon wheel? I have one that no matter how many times I unseat the bearings, or even swap out seems to have a wobbly roll and it feels sorta weird like my truck is loose, but it's not. 

Yeah my friend got a set like that, just sent a video to skateone's warranty dept and they sent him a new set.

[IrritableBowel2]

Just like your friend, I emailed Skateone and they're sending a new set