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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6930 on: October 14, 2023, 05:19:47 AM »
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Can anyone give some feedback on the oj prototypes?
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The dual duros? I think they were confirmed to be shitty.
https://youtu.be/yDRtTtCQne4?feature=shared

Yeah they’re the ones. Ah right ok cheers for that just saved me $100 or so

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6931 on: October 14, 2023, 04:03:58 PM »
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Can anyone give some feedback on the oj prototypes?
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The dual duros? I think they were confirmed to be shitty.
https://youtu.be/yDRtTtCQne4?feature=shared
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Yeah they’re the ones. Ah right ok cheers for that just saved me $100 or so


While I thought Spitfire wheels were getting expensive at almost AU$100, I saw those dual duro OJs were AU$110 to $120 a set and from what people were saying about them, there is no way I would justify that expense for a wheel that still flatspots and doesn't actually skate as well as the hype.

I haven't seen or ridden them, so really I don't have anything to add, but even just the options of any normal wheel being more down around the AU$80 or less with discount code or percentage off sales, I really wonder how many people would actually buy them, being that high in price - I think the highest I have ever seen a set of wheels for, I might add.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6932 on: October 14, 2023, 07:21:11 PM »
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Can anyone give some feedback on the oj prototypes?
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The dual duros? I think they were confirmed to be shitty.
https://youtu.be/yDRtTtCQne4?feature=shared
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Yeah they’re the ones. Ah right ok cheers for that just saved me $100 or so
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While I thought Spitfire wheels were getting expensive at almost AU$100, I saw those dual duro OJs were AU$110 to $120 a set and from what people were saying about them, there is no way I would justify that expense for a wheel that still flatspots and doesn't actually skate as well as the hype.

I haven't seen or ridden them, so really I don't have anything to add, but even just the options of any normal wheel being more down around the AU$80 or less with discount code or percentage off sales, I really wonder how many people would actually buy them, being that high in price - I think the highest I have ever seen a set of wheels for, I might add.

Yeah I know hey, I did have the thought it might be worth a try as I skate a lot of car parks and that here in Aus and thought the double duro would help reduce vibration asphalt but I guess that I nearly got sucked into the marketing. Glad I didn’t fork out the money for them and asked on here first. I’m usually on ff 99 classics but might try the ff 97’s.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6933 on: October 15, 2023, 08:48:38 AM »
Dont waste your money on those OJs. F4 97, Bones X and Dragons will be best choice for your needs.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6934 on: October 15, 2023, 12:43:52 PM »
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Can anyone give some feedback on the oj prototypes?
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The dual duros? I think they were confirmed to be shitty.
https://youtu.be/yDRtTtCQne4?feature=shared
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Yeah they’re the ones. Ah right ok cheers for that just saved me $100 or so
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While I thought Spitfire wheels were getting expensive at almost AU$100, I saw those dual duro OJs were AU$110 to $120 a set and from what people were saying about them, there is no way I would justify that expense for a wheel that still flatspots and doesn't actually skate as well as the hype.

I haven't seen or ridden them, so really I don't have anything to add, but even just the options of any normal wheel being more down around the AU$80 or less with discount code or percentage off sales, I really wonder how many people would actually buy them, being that high in price - I think the highest I have ever seen a set of wheels for, I might add.

I still want my money back from these but at least it made for good video content (and a warning to others).

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6935 on: October 16, 2023, 10:58:05 AM »
Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6936 on: October 16, 2023, 11:19:14 AM »
Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.

Oh this definitely looks like that new HLC urethane someone posted about recently

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6937 on: October 16, 2023, 11:49:05 AM »
Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.

It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6938 on: October 16, 2023, 12:27:16 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production

If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6939 on: October 16, 2023, 04:13:00 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production
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If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.
I didn't say anyone from nfg was involved. I said it's supposed to be better than the old nfg formula. And it is confirmed to be the new formula. You can ask them yourself if you want.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6940 on: October 16, 2023, 04:22:37 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production
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If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.

From what I know about NFG I think that's pretty unlikely. I'm pretty sure that after NFG, Loophole started using a different manufacturing company that is unrelated to NFG and the guy who ran it.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6941 on: October 16, 2023, 04:32:27 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production
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If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.
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I didn't say anyone from nfg was involved. I said it's supposed to be better than the old nfg formula. And it is confirmed to be the new formula. You can ask them yourself if you want.

I was responding to Dr. Prestige not you. Lighten up in the wheel section.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6942 on: October 16, 2023, 05:07:08 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production
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If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.
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From what I know about NFG I think that's pretty unlikely. I'm pretty sure that after NFG, Loophole started using a different manufacturing company that is unrelated to NFG and the guy who ran it.
pretty sure loophole is going through hlc based on the shape names carrying over from this catalog to the loophole site
https://mfg.hlcdist.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogos/hlc-oem-catalogue-skateboard.pdf
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6943 on: October 16, 2023, 05:37:47 PM »
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Loophole new drop today. They look like formula 4. I think it's the new formula that is supposed to be a better version of the old nfg formula. Waiting on a reply.
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It’s probably completely unrelated to NFG, I doubt that the people currently making Loopholes are intricately aware of how NFG handled their urethane production
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If NFG owners are out of business with no plans to reopen then they may have gifted the formula to Loophole. I guess only a rider of both would feel the difference.
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I didn't say anyone from nfg was involved. I said it's supposed to be better than the old nfg formula. And it is confirmed to be the new formula. You can ask them yourself if you want.
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I was responding to Dr. Prestige not you. Lighten up in the wheel section.
My bad I wasn't responding to you I meant to quote dr. Prestige as well.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6944 on: October 16, 2023, 06:01:34 PM »
No problem. I work in the chemical industry and I know that once you have a formula that works it is most effective to use that formula to build new formulas.

Many people here say NFG>F4 so I thought maybe NFG would allow Loophole to build off that formula.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6945 on: October 17, 2023, 03:37:55 AM »
No problem. I work in the chemical industry and I know that once you have a formula that works it is most effective to use that formula to build new formulas.

Many people here say NFG>F4 so I thought maybe NFG would allow Loophole to build off that formula.
Loophole does not manufacture wheels. They just put their branding on and sell them. No building off of any formula

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6946 on: October 17, 2023, 04:44:46 AM »
Just from reading SLAP comments:

-NFG employees left Spitfire to start their own company.
-NFG ran into money troubles asked for investors.
-Continued to produce wheels for another year.

Loophole brand is based on an alternative to F4. NFG used the F4 formula and tweaked the formula to Loophole’s liking. I don’t believe Loophole just puts their name on a wheel based on what I read here. It sounded like they were closely involved with product testing with NFG.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6947 on: October 17, 2023, 09:08:35 AM »
powell should take a shot at the double duro wheel
the oj version seems like an overpriced dud
a dragon 93a inner w/ bones x99a outer would slap

outside of the marketing, i couldnt imagine that sucking
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6948 on: October 17, 2023, 09:10:34 AM »
I’ve been skating for less than two years so please forgive my ignorance. Do wheels feel different when it gets cold out?

The pair of OJ Hardlines I have don’t feel the same. I’m not sure if it’s the 40 degree weather or the fact that I let them sit on a shelf for two months after swapping them out. They just feel harder, and not in a good way. Was like skating on ice lol

Spitfire is sending me some 97a RFs to make up for the defective ones I had. Can’t wait cause these ain’t it 😖

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6949 on: October 17, 2023, 09:18:55 AM »
I’ve been skating for less than two years so please forgive my ignorance. Do wheels feel different when it gets cold out?

The pair of OJ Hardlines I have don’t feel the same. I’m not sure if it’s the 40 degree weather or the fact that I let them sit on a shelf for two months after swapping them out. They just feel harder, and not in a good way. Was like skating on ice lol

Spitfire is sending me some 97a RFs to make up for the defective ones I had. Can’t wait cause these ain’t it 😖

Two months on a shelf is nothing. Stuff sits in shops longer than that. But yeah, the cold weather generally does freeze up the urethane a bit. I think 97 Radial Fulls will be much better for the winter than OJs.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6950 on: October 17, 2023, 09:29:57 AM »
OJs come off the shelf sucking. If you want a wheel that is most similar to clay wheels go with OJ standard thane 99a.

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« Reply #6951 on: October 17, 2023, 10:12:33 AM »
Thanks guys. I used to like ‘em, but I guess skating the Spitfires changed my mind. Hopefully my new wheels come soon. Don’t have any tracking on them.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6952 on: October 17, 2023, 01:16:18 PM »
I've written before that I like the hardlines, mostly for the fairly new local park that is slick as hell, but they 100% feel like ice, and being cold and hard only amplifies that.

Seconding that an F4 97a would help get more feel, and curb some of the icy-ness
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6953 on: October 17, 2023, 03:49:44 PM »
I’m not sure if it’s the 40 degree weather

I swap up wheels from late fall to early spring when it's cold.   I skate a lot of concrete transition and use SPF 84B in the summer, but they become super slippery at my local park under 45 or so.  I end up using F4 101 if it's 40 degrees and up, and this year i'll be using X97 when it's below 40.  As soon as it gets 50+ degrees regularly at the time of day i skate, I'll be back on SPF.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6954 on: October 18, 2023, 12:06:30 PM »
97a radial fulls feel twice as fast than my lock in fulls with a wider contact patch out the gate.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6955 on: October 18, 2023, 01:20:48 PM »
97a radial fulls feel twice as fast than my lock in fulls with a wider contact patch out the gate.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6956 on: October 19, 2023, 02:56:43 AM »
I mentioned in the setup thread I had Keyframes (thought they were mini juices) - anyways, I may look to replace them eventually or just try something different. Anyone have good cruiser wheel recommendations??

I've seen X97 Dragons enjoyed by a few, but I'm open to any suggestions. Preferably looking to keep the wheel size 58 or smaller
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6957 on: October 19, 2023, 08:05:21 AM »
I mentioned in the setup thread I had Keyframes (thought they were mini juices) - anyways, I may look to replace them eventually or just try something different. Anyone have good cruiser wheel recommendations??

I've seen X97 Dragons enjoyed by a few, but I'm open to any suggestions. Preferably looking to keep the wheel size 58 or smaller

If you're strictly cruising get bones rough riders. I've had 2 different sets last me 3+ years without any issues while I've had oj super juices chunk out in less than 3 months. If you want something softer but still able to slide/slappy/ollie etc.. get 56 v6 Dragons the 93a ones. Wider street style wheel shape without being too big and bulky.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6958 on: October 19, 2023, 09:07:13 AM »
I mentioned in the setup thread I had Keyframes (thought they were mini juices) - anyways, I may look to replace them eventually or just try something different. Anyone have good cruiser wheel recommendations??

I've seen X97 Dragons enjoyed by a few, but I'm open to any suggestions. Preferably looking to keep the wheel size 58 or smaller

I know you want 58mm or smaller but the 60mm rat bones shape in the dragon formula is fucking amazing. You will softly roll over everything rough and slide with ease whenever you need to. The wider riding surface vs 58mm or lower and the shape just makes them outperform the other ones. Because I also have the 58mm V6 shape and although they're still great, they still don't have the extra forgiveness the 60mm ones have.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #6959 on: October 19, 2023, 10:23:15 AM »
Aight gods, seeing how the topic is being somewhat discussed I figured I might as well ask.

I film a bunch and went from Keyframes to Dragons (i have the 56mm wide ones)because sometimes Im skating around hills and shit on my filmer/cruiser board and I need to be able to slide but still mantain that cruiser wheel feeling. Although the Dragons where a game.changer for me they are still a bit sticky sometimes. Is there a wheel that is slightly harder but still has that cruiser wheel feel??? I was thinking of trying out the F4 97s but dont know if they would be too hard? Im not really familiar with the Bones roster and Im seeing a lot of their options being mentioned.

So if anyone has any recommendations itd be greatly appreciated.