Wheels Thread

[lurkluke]

if you dont need to slide then grab em
but mind you, they bounce a lot

if you like to cruise they are superb, but doing tricks on is not what you really want to do with them.
if you want a bit of both cruise + tricks and in OJ, i would say get the keyframes

cheers team. Will cop some keyframes.

[LebowskisRug]

I've got Super Juice on a cruiser and would never put them on a board I'd want to seriously skate.

[rikki]

Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

[DarkPools]

Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

Keyframes are objectively, far from a shitty wheel. They are great cruiser wheels and do not chunk apart easily from riding on some crust/rough ground. Are they the best? No, not at all.

I got Keyframes rn and been running them since 2017. Your mileage may vary is the takeaway with a wheel like a Keyframe, ATF, Dragon, etc. They work well: standard workhorse cruiser/rough terrain wheel.

They keep speed well, especially if you take care of the bearings. Could feel somewhat slow sometimes when you're bearings aren't spinning as well, though. Ride is smooth, grind on coping fine, can even grind ledges, and the slide is minimal. You'd have to really push to get them to slide. There's some give, but not enough. If you wanna slide at all, these may not be the ones to pick up (if you haven't bought yet)

For overall cruising and some flat tricks, they will work just fine

[rawbertson.]

i personally love the OJ Super Juice wheels...  its definitely not a board you set up to do tricks on, but if we are talking about unlocking new spots there is no better wheel imo. my village is absolute shit roads but I can actually have quite a bit of fun on my skateboard because of these wheels now. I 100% need a normal board if I want to have a full session at my curb spots, but I still slap a few here and there and fire off some flip tricks if i am wiating around for take out. I baby the wheels a little bit because I know how soft they are and I know they are prone to shredding if you are beating the shit out of them.

I have never rode Keyframe formula but yeah if you are expecting it to be something you use at the skatepark or beat up curbs with on the regular that is not what they are meant for... tbh they would probably make more sense for the type of skating I do with my cruiser. i just love how insanely cruisery and stable the super juices are, i feel a lot safer hitting a sidewalk crack going 20km / h on a hill bomb manny on that shape 

[Frank and Fred]

Anyone sampled the new Spitfire 80HD super wides yet? (Spitfire's answer to a proper cruiser/ filmer wheel.)

[mrselfdestruct]

i keep seeing people ride radials. whats the big deal? i ride conical fulls but like the way radials look better. what is the point of radials? will they look into a handrail nicely?

[LebowskisRug]

Radials are tied for my favorite shape. The inner portion of the wheel (near the bearings) is slightly narrower and a rounded lip both traintracks less and for me locks into anything nicer. It's got a pretty wide riding patch without being a truly wide wheel and they feel noticeably smoother on the rougher surfaces that I skate compared to a Classic, but my board still feels nimble.

I've tried Conical Fulls many time and just never been super convinced that they were for me. When I used to skate the Oakland Courthouse a lot I would constantly catch the sidewall in the cracks between the tiles and ate shit a few times. I don't need something that beefy and with 148/5.6 trucks the marginal added width of the Radials plus 2-3 washers gives me more room than a Conical full and the outside of the wheel is in the same spot.

[pops]

Anyone sampled the new Spitfire 80HD super wides yet? (Spitfire's answer to a proper cruiser/ filmer wheel.)

Do these chunk out like other soft wheels?

[Banned from the room]

Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

I agree. I can slide key frames but it whips back to forward and you seem to have the same amount of speed.
So sliding only helps with when you need to avoid getting run over or hitting someone walking or whatever.

I don't think I'd ever get a wheel softer than 95a again. I might cop the Nano Cubic. I saw them but I'm going to check orchard for Funks first.

I need a 60mm wheel to tide me over till spring.

[Banned from the room]

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Anyone sampled the new Spitfire 80HD super wides yet? (Spitfire's answer to a proper cruiser/ filmer wheel.)

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Do these chunk out like other soft wheels?

The old naturals in classic shape lasted me like from 2013 to 2016. I wore a good 10mm off them no issues. I assume a little chunk will happen on the edges but only if youre mashing through the tiles and edging out all the time.

Or hitting insane crust every day

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Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

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I agree. I can slide key frames but it whips back to forward and you seem to have the same amount of speed.
So sliding only helps with when you need to avoid getting run over or hitting someone walking or whatever.

I don't think I'd ever get a wheel softer than 95a again. I might cop the Nano Cubic. I saw them but I'm going to check orchard for Funks first.

I need a 60mm wheel to tide me over till spring.

I got keyframes two years ago because I heard good things about them. I hated them instantly after the first day. Dragons 93a are the shit. I saw nanocubics shape in 60mm and 93a, should be a fun wheel for cruising too. They also have 64mm Dragons but too scared of that size. 

[hiljentaa]

I would be so hyped on a massive Radial Full-type shape but in the 93a Dragon formula. 64mm or so.

I want to try the Dragons formula for long pushes but I'm not into any of their shapes for the bigger sizes.

[rikki]

I would be so hyped on a massive Radial Full-type shape but in the 93a Dragon formula. 64mm or so.

I want to try the Dragons formula for long pushes but I'm not into any of their shapes for the bigger sizes.

I'm pretty sure the Dragons 60mm Rat Bones would not disappoint you a whole lot.

[hiljentaa]

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I would be so hyped on a massive Radial Full-type shape but in the 93a Dragon formula. 64mm or so.

I want to try the Dragons formula for long pushes but I'm not into any of their shapes for the bigger sizes.

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I'm pretty sure the Dragons 60mm Rat Bones would not disappoint you a whole lot.

For sure, I am just fickle.

I am morally opposed to asymmetric and square edge wheels.

[Frank and Fred]

Same but  i had to purchase some SF lockins just to be sure I am correct in my opposition.

[Kaydubbb]

Could someone with some 55m OJ super juice minis tell me if they protrude much past the axel nut? I'm wanting to build a cruiser and trying to math out some deck and truck combos.

[Banned from the room]

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Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

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I agree. I can slide key frames but it whips back to forward and you seem to have the same amount of speed.
So sliding only helps with when you need to avoid getting run over or hitting someone walking or whatever.

I don't think I'd ever get a wheel softer than 95a again. I might cop the Nano Cubic. I saw them but I'm going to check orchard for Funks first.

I need a 60mm wheel to tide me over till spring.

[close]

I got keyframes two years ago because I heard good things about them. I hated them instantly after the first day. Dragons 93a are the shit. I saw nanocubics shape in 60mm and 93a, should be a fun wheel for cruising too. They also have 64mm Dragons but too scared of that size. 

Yeah I'm on 58 mm dragons rn. I need like a spit. Im just trying to decide between the og and the regular classic.

I might just get the tallest 97a spit I can find.

The off set nano would probably exaggerate my double sided curb issues. I gotta subtract truck real estate to find the balance.

Og probably.

I'm going to just set up my dragons when I got to skate to Lynn or whatever

[eviltgirl]

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Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

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I agree. I can slide key frames but it whips back to forward and you seem to have the same amount of speed.
So sliding only helps with when you need to avoid getting run over or hitting someone walking or whatever.

I don't think I'd ever get a wheel softer than 95a again. I might cop the Nano Cubic. I saw them but I'm going to check orchard for Funks first.

I need a 60mm wheel to tide me over till spring.

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I got keyframes two years ago because I heard good things about them. I hated them instantly after the first day. Dragons 93a are the shit. I saw nanocubics shape in 60mm and 93a, should be a fun wheel for cruising too. They also have 64mm Dragons but too scared of that size. 

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Yeah I'm on 58 mm dragons rn. I need like a spit. Im just trying to decide between the og and the regular classic.

I might just get the tallest 97a spit I can find.

The off set nano would probably exaggerate my double sided curb issues. I gotta subtract truck real estate to find the balance.

Og probably.

I'm going to just set up my dragons when I got to skate to Lynn or whatever

https://www.havocskateboards.com/product/spitfire-jeff-carlyle-formula-four-97a-conical-full-58mm/1387

i think this would be what youre looking for, only place i found them in stock

[pops]

Could someone with some 55m OJ super juice minis tell me if they protrude much past the axel nut? I'm wanting to build a cruiser and trying to math out some deck and truck combos.

I think they do a few mm, not sure and cant measure it because I threw mine away. They're fun while they last which isnt very long.

[Xen]

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Keyframes are shitty wheels imo, slow as f*ck and won't slide at all. If you're actually looking for a wheel for crusty park + cruising with which you can do some tricks on, get 56mm Dragons.

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I agree. I can slide key frames but it whips back to forward and you seem to have the same amount of speed.
So sliding only helps with when you need to avoid getting run over or hitting someone walking or whatever.

I don't think I'd ever get a wheel softer than 95a again. I might cop the Nano Cubic. I saw them but I'm going to check orchard for Funks first.

I need a 60mm wheel to tide me over till spring.

[close]

I got keyframes two years ago because I heard good things about them. I hated them instantly after the first day. Dragons 93a are the shit. I saw nanocubics shape in 60mm and 93a, should be a fun wheel for cruising too. They also have 64mm Dragons but too scared of that size. 

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Yeah I'm on 58 mm dragons rn. I need like a spit. Im just trying to decide between the og and the regular classic.

I might just get the tallest 97a spit I can find.

The off set nano would probably exaggerate my double sided curb issues. I gotta subtract truck real estate to find the balance.

Og probably.

I'm going to just set up my dragons when I got to skate to Lynn or whatever

https://youtu.be/E7VoxQgiQ1k?t=204

Haven't found much out in the wild about the nanos...grain of salt here for obvious reasons.

[Frank and Fred]

Could someone with some 55m OJ super juice minis tell me if they protrude much past the axel nut? I'm wanting to build a cruiser and trying to math out some deck and truck combos.

The edge of the wheel will be 1/8" beyond the end of the axle.

1/4" total.

So if you're riding 8.5" axles, 55mm Superjuices will line nicely with an 8.75" deck.

[Mulldrifter]

yeah easily that

[Xen]

Same but  i had to purchase some SF lockins just to be sure I am correct in my opposition.

Against my better judgement, I just bought some 53s…madness

[Texas_Tone]

Have we discussed the quasi protothane wheels? Has anyone skated them? Where are they poured? Differnt shapes? You know typical wheel madness questions

[Xen]

Have we discussed the quasi protothane wheels? Has anyone skated them? Where are they poured? Differnt shapes? You know typical wheel madness questions

They’ve popped up in this thread (try a 🔍 ); they’re nothing special, generic creatives.

[Mbrimson88]

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Have we discussed the quasi protothane wheels? Has anyone skated them? Where are they poured? Differnt shapes? You know typical wheel madness questions

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They’ve popped up in this thread (try a 🔍 ); they’re nothing special, generic creatives.

I got a set just to see what they were like.

They skate way better than the other wheels from Creative so I don't know if it is a different formula they used or from a different wheel manufacturer.

Still not quite the same as Spitfire Formula Four or Bones wheel variants, but I would maybe choose them over almost any other current generic wheel that I have had in recent years - by no means tried everything on the market, but definitely got a lot of different brands of wheel from trade ins and swaps, as well as some new.


The ones I have are 54 mm in a semi classic shape and then a conical shape, almost like Spitfire Conical Full only not quite as wide, but similar other dimensions.  They feel nice and hold up well on every surface I tried, including bitumen / road, rough concrete, smooth concrete, wood and skate lite ramp surfaces, not too grippy on the rough stuff, not too slick on the wood and smooth concrete.

That is my take on them anyway, from putting them on a board and giving them a go, as well as letting anyone else have a roll on them who wanted to.

[Lou Strux]

I don’t know ‘bout all these haters but I loves me some asymmetrical wheel profile.
Haven’t fucked w/ the mini cubics or any of the OJ offerings because I’m loyal to my soil (so to speak) and those F4 Lock-Ins are scratching my funny wheel itch just fine.
Are they running a larger (58mm?) Lock-In Fulls in the F4 97du yet? ‘Cause that feels like it could eat up a whole lot of a cruiser/curb market segment if they did.
Powell’s got some real nice formulations these days, but I’d take a performance version of a larger cruiser profile wheel (when blown up to larger wheel proportions, the Lock-In Fulls fit this discriptor) in that sweet-azz F4 97 over just about anything else on the softer wheel market. I still feel the balance between slip & grip is hella good & they don’t bind on grinds, but that 97 du has got the squishier feel/rebound of a 93-95 wheel, packaged in some branding that lets me keep it real in the yay area.
TLDR: I like the funny shaped wheels. Yes please!

[Mongo Lloyd]

Anyone here try out Oj Chubbies yet? Kinda been eyeing those for a minute.

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I don’t know ‘bout all these haters but I loves me some asymmetrical wheel profile.
Haven’t fucked w/ the mini cubics or any of the OJ offerings because I’m loyal to my soil (so to speak) and those F4 Lock-Ins are scratching my funny wheel itch just fine.
Are they running a larger (58mm?) Lock-In Fulls in the F4 97du yet? ‘Cause that feels like it could eat up a whole lot of a cruiser/curb market segment if they did.
Powell’s got some real nice formulations these days, but I’d take a performance version of a larger cruiser profile wheel (when blown up to larger wheel proportions, the Lock-In Fulls fit this discriptor) in that sweet-azz F4 97 over just about anything else on the softer wheel market. I still feel the balance between slip & grip is hella good & they don’t bind on grinds, but that 97 du has got the squishier feel/rebound of a 93-95 wheel, packaged in some branding that lets me keep it real in the yay area.
TLDR: I like the funny shaped wheels. Yes please!

Idk just my personal experience but the 97s felt very dull to me (rode both RF and CF in their larger sizes) compared to what Powell/Bones has to offer these days. But if youre a devoted Spits fan give them a go.