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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7710 on: July 03, 2024, 06:10:54 PM »
I got STF 101s and Loopholes 52s as my last set of hardwheels just to have around. X99s are the jam. I left my X97s in Puerto Rico and they were perfect there, since everything gets crusty from rain and you can ride them in asphalt on a pinch, but I felt no reason to bring them back home. Definitely gotta try the Spit 93s though

Coincidentally, I was just about to drop in only to say I've been loving my loophole 52s. I can relate with a lot of people and the pain/body issues. I'm 51-young and hope I can hang on to these wheels for a while.

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« Reply #7711 on: July 03, 2024, 06:43:25 PM »
Ya honestly my feet feel better bc of less vibration but it's my lower back, legs, etc doing the popping. Soft wheels won't save me from landing primo or ankle roll.

Personally the 93 Spit slow down less on coping so I prefer them to X99, but both are great and the V5 shape is top notch. Just pick one and you'll be happy. I'm a DLX sycophant so naturally I'll always prefer Spits but I don't regret trying Bones out.

On a random aside, has anyone ridden Satori recently? My local is closing out a ton of them and they have some nice shapes and I've been told their 101 feels like a 99 Spit but grippier.

Hard satoris are awful. The soft ones are actually good cruiser wheels.

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« Reply #7712 on: July 03, 2024, 09:54:40 PM »
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Ya honestly my feet feel better bc of less vibration but it's my lower back, legs, etc doing the popping. Soft wheels won't save me from landing primo or ankle roll.

Personally the 93 Spit slow down less on coping so I prefer them to X99, but both are great and the V5 shape is top notch. Just pick one and you'll be happy. I'm a DLX sycophant so naturally I'll always prefer Spits but I don't regret trying Bones out.

On a random aside, has anyone ridden Satori recently? My local is closing out a ton of them and they have some nice shapes and I've been told their 101 feels like a 99 Spit but grippier.
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Hard satoris are awful. The soft ones are actually good cruiser wheels.

got a set of Satori 54s for my film board a few years ago and haven't looked back. I used to over-engineer my film setup (at one point I had 70mm Sector 9s!) but nowadays it feels way better to have it match my skate setup as much as possible. fart rock is gonna ruin the clip either way and my body appreciates the weight reduction.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7713 on: July 06, 2024, 08:02:26 AM »
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« Reply #7714 on: July 07, 2024, 08:01:41 AM »
what hardnesses do they come in?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7715 on: July 07, 2024, 09:37:10 AM »
The higher the number on the Janka scale, the harder it is.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7716 on: July 07, 2024, 10:49:27 AM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
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Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7717 on: July 07, 2024, 01:38:29 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
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Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
[close]

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?

sometimes the question of arch support can be rather counterintuitive. do you have high arches that ache or low/collapsed arches that ache. I used to look for high arch insoles because i have high arches, but then i learned that insoles with arch support can actually lead to weakening the muscle groups that support and protect a high arch, leaving high arches more vulnerable to collapse over time. maybe this is irrelevant, but it was a real suprise to me to learn that flatter insoles can be better for maintaining the health of high arches, where as insoles with high arch support are more effective for arches that are low/collapsed to begin with. i would recommend doing some research as to whether increased arch support is actually the best solution for your unique feet
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7718 on: July 07, 2024, 02:02:53 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
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Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
[close]

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?
[close]

sometimes the question of arch support can be rather counterintuitive. do you have high arches that ache or low/collapsed arches that ache. I used to look for high arch insoles because i have high arches, but then i learned that insoles with arch support can actually lead to weakening the muscle groups that support and protect your arch, leaving your arches more vulnerable to collapse over time. maybe this is irrelevant, but it was a real suprise to me to learn that flatter insoles can be better for maintaining the health of high arches, where as insoles with high arch support are more effective for arches that are low/collapsed to begin with. i would recommend doing some research as to whether increased arch support is actually the best solution for your unique feet

You are right. I need arch support for my flat feet. Maybe a medium arch on my right foot. Always thought I should wear flat insoles because of flat feet. No, that made the problem worse and I developed plantar fasciitis.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7719 on: July 07, 2024, 02:18:04 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
[close]

Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
[close]

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?
[close]

sometimes the question of arch support can be rather counterintuitive. do you have high arches that ache or low/collapsed arches that ache. I used to look for high arch insoles because i have high arches, but then i learned that insoles with arch support can actually lead to weakening the muscle groups that support and protect your arch, leaving your arches more vulnerable to collapse over time. maybe this is irrelevant, but it was a real suprise to me to learn that flatter insoles can be better for maintaining the health of high arches, where as insoles with high arch support are more effective for arches that are low/collapsed to begin with. i would recommend doing some research as to whether increased arch support is actually the best solution for your unique feet

This isn't true. The muscles that form your arch start at the back of your leg and end at your toes. The arch does not have distinct muscles, but ones that run along it. These muscles are strengthened primarily by ankle flexion and extension, toe flexion and extension, and lateral ankle movement. Having an arch support doesn't weaken them as long as your foot/ankle can move. What arch support does do is prevent the foot from "collapsing" inwards in cases of extreme force when generally muscle groups are fatigued or too weak to support.

You don't have to be barefoot to strengthen these muscles either as they can be significantly stimulated by all sorts of weighted and unweighted movements. Injury and pain usually occur from a lack of conditioning of one or more of the muscles that run along the arch and soft tissue or the skeleton taking the brunt of the force. The best solution as you age is pretty simple- some sort of consistent resistance training and shoes with enough arch support to prevent collapse in extreme situations.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7720 on: July 07, 2024, 02:22:27 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
[close]

Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
[close]

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?
[close]

sometimes the question of arch support can be rather counterintuitive. do you have high arches that ache or low/collapsed arches that ache. I used to look for high arch insoles because i have high arches, but then i learned that insoles with arch support can actually lead to weakening the muscle groups that support and protect your arch, leaving your arches more vulnerable to collapse over time. maybe this is irrelevant, but it was a real suprise to me to learn that flatter insoles can be better for maintaining the health of high arches, where as insoles with high arch support are more effective for arches that are low/collapsed to begin with. i would recommend doing some research as to whether increased arch support is actually the best solution for your unique feet
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You are right. I need arch support for my flat feet. Maybe a medium arch on my right foot. Always thought I should wear flat insoles because of flat feet. No, that made the problem worse and I developed plantar fasciitis.

damn :( have you looked into arch supports that can be glued to an existing insole, rather than finding a good skate insole with built in arches? you can take a set of flat insoles with good impact absorption and just add arch inserts on top of them. you can even put different size arch support inserts under each foot if it suits your needs. also what carcasstoss said is spot on and they seem to be more informed on this topic than myself
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7721 on: July 07, 2024, 06:46:14 PM »
what hardnesses do they come in?

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« Reply #7722 on: July 07, 2024, 07:18:09 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
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Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
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Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #7723 on: July 07, 2024, 07:27:10 PM »
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I've switched to wide/barefoot shoes and high arch insoles full time: skating, at home, working/going out;
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What wide/barefoot shoes are you running? I run minimalist / barefoot shoes full time but haven't yet found a skate shoe wide enough for my hobbit feet. I've had ok success with some NBs (currently in Foy 306) but even those my midfoot starts cramping up after a couple hours.
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Right now I've settled on Xero Prios for the gym (with a high arch insole, yeah yeah, defeats the 'barefoot' aspect, but I''m after the width and need the arch support for the knees). Some Nike runners in 2E and 440v2 wides.

Skated some 1010s today (10.5) bit of heel slip (hopefully it goes away) but they're plenty wide where I need it.
[close]

Sorry to steer the topic in another direction. You guys might have some tips for arch support insoles for skating? I don't know what to look for. Running insoles? Basketball insoles? Which thickness? Which materials? Just get Footprints?
[close]

sometimes the question of arch support can be rather counterintuitive. do you have high arches that ache or low/collapsed arches that ache. I used to look for high arch insoles because i have high arches, but then i learned that insoles with arch support can actually lead to weakening the muscle groups that support and protect your arch, leaving your arches more vulnerable to collapse over time. maybe this is irrelevant, but it was a real suprise to me to learn that flatter insoles can be better for maintaining the health of high arches, where as insoles with high arch support are more effective for arches that are low/collapsed to begin with. i would recommend doing some research as to whether increased arch support is actually the best solution for your unique feet
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You are right. I need arch support for my flat feet. Maybe a medium arch on my right foot. Always thought I should wear flat insoles because of flat feet. No, that made the problem worse and I developed plantar fasciitis.
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damn :( have you looked into arch supports that can be glued to an existing insole, rather than finding a good skate insole with built in arches? you can take a set of flat insoles with good impact absorption and just add arch inserts on top of them. you can even put different size arch support inserts under each foot if it suits your needs. also what carcasstoss said is spot on and they seem to be more informed on this topic than myself

Almost all stock insoles are too mushy for flat foot, same with FP insoles which provide more cushion than arch support. I'd look at aftermarket insoles from sports brands.

I had really flat feet (so flat they created suction on the wet bathroom floor) and started off wearing Superfeet Copper insoles which really helped with foot fatigue and knee pains. They're pretty padded so they can be a tight fit in most skate shoes if you buy TTS. I've also done the Black Carbon ones which were too thin for skateboarding.

Right now I alternate between pairs of insoles I get off Aliexpress - I use to get those for flat feet but my arches have strengthened and aren't fully collapsed so I get regular arch ones. They were pretty cheap so I experimented with a few pairs, some were rock hard, some didn't have the support at the right areas, some were too thick.
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« Reply #7724 on: July 07, 2024, 07:34:09 PM »
I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.

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« Reply #7725 on: July 08, 2024, 01:49:37 AM »
I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.

Oh wow. That's exactly what I wanna do. NB# 600 with some FP insoles. I try the low gamechangers first and maybe then the normal gamechangers. I also have some older Etnies Joslin insoles but they have the arch support at the right spot and feel good most days. Some of the older Sole Tech insoles are really nice.

Thanks for all the detailed answers ya all. Slap pals power.

*back to wheels. I like the Spit F4 Conicals and Conical Fulls. 99a 52mm. Still getting used to the slightly wider Conical Fulls. The pop is awesome with these wheels, but locking in on coping feels a bit sketchy. As in, I want to lock into the coping but my wheels are riding on the coping. That point between locking in and rolling out, feels super scary to me. Especially because we have one of these scary spines with double coping in our local park.

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« Reply #7726 on: July 08, 2024, 02:13:25 AM »
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I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.
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Oh wow. That's exactly what I wanna do. NB# 600 with some FP insoles. I try the low gamechangers first and maybe then the normal gamechangers. I also have some older Etnies Joslin insoles but they have the arch support at the right spot and feel good most days. Some of the older Sole Tech insoles are really nice.

Thanks for all the detailed answers ya all. Slap pals power.

*back to wheels. I like the Spit F4 Conicals and Conical Fulls. 99a 52mm. Still getting used to the slightly wider Conical Fulls. The pop is awesome with these wheels, but locking in on coping feels a bit sketchy. As in, I want to lock into the coping but my wheels are riding on the coping. That point between locking in and rolling out, feels super scary to me. Especially because we have one of these scary spines with double coping in our local park.

I think it's easier to lock in with a skinnier wheel like Bones V5 or Spit Conical. Maybe a larger wheel diameter would help locking in with CF's?

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« Reply #7727 on: July 08, 2024, 05:42:43 AM »
Loving my Keyframes lately.  Such smoothness.   They do not slide great but you can force them with a bit of effort. 

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« Reply #7728 on: July 09, 2024, 09:22:20 AM »
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I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.
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Oh wow. That's exactly what I wanna do. NB# 600 with some FP insoles. I try the low gamechangers first and maybe then the normal gamechangers. I also have some older Etnies Joslin insoles but they have the arch support at the right spot and feel good most days. Some of the older Sole Tech insoles are really nice.

Thanks for all the detailed answers ya all. Slap pals power.

*back to wheels. I like the Spit F4 Conicals and Conical Fulls. 99a 52mm. Still getting used to the slightly wider Conical Fulls. The pop is awesome with these wheels, but locking in on coping feels a bit sketchy. As in, I want to lock into the coping but my wheels are riding on the coping. That point between locking in and rolling out, feels super scary to me. Especially because we have one of these scary spines with double coping in our local park.
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I think it's easier to lock in with a skinnier wheel like Bones V5 or Spit Conical. Maybe a larger wheel diameter would help locking in with CF's?

Been on V3/V5s for a minute, set-up a different  board with some ricta slims (just a V1 shape essenstially) all day I was slipping out of krooks fs/bs and didn't think anything of it until later in the day; took out the board with the V5s and everything was fine. I like the spit conical just wish the lip had more angle to it.

Switched the slim ricta to Ricta 'mids' I had kicking around. V5 shape and hard as nails. Also, they are on sale over at NHS for $16/18 a set. Well worth it. https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/52mm-facchini-orbital-naturals-white-metallic-red-mid-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?variant=42104545476765

https://rictawheels.com/shapes

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« Reply #7729 on: July 09, 2024, 09:52:37 AM »
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I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.
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Oh wow. That's exactly what I wanna do. NB# 600 with some FP insoles. I try the low gamechangers first and maybe then the normal gamechangers. I also have some older Etnies Joslin insoles but they have the arch support at the right spot and feel good most days. Some of the older Sole Tech insoles are really nice.

Thanks for all the detailed answers ya all. Slap pals power.

*back to wheels. I like the Spit F4 Conicals and Conical Fulls. 99a 52mm. Still getting used to the slightly wider Conical Fulls. The pop is awesome with these wheels, but locking in on coping feels a bit sketchy. As in, I want to lock into the coping but my wheels are riding on the coping. That point between locking in and rolling out, feels super scary to me. Especially because we have one of these scary spines with double coping in our local park.
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I think it's easier to lock in with a skinnier wheel like Bones V5 or Spit Conical. Maybe a larger wheel diameter would help locking in with CF's?
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Been on V3/V5s for a minute, set-up a different  board with some ricta slims (just a V1 shape essenstially) all day I was slipping out of krooks fs/bs and didn't think anything of it until later in the day; took out the board with the V5s and everything was fine. I like the spit conical just wish the lip had more angle to it.

Switched the slim ricta to Ricta 'mids' I had kicking around. V5 shape and hard as nails. Also, they are on sale over at NHS for $16/18 a set. Well worth it. https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/52mm-facchini-orbital-naturals-white-metallic-red-mid-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?variant=42104545476765

https://rictawheels.com/shapes



Goddamnit xen, now I’m looking at rictas, totally forgot Wade D still rode for them, that shape looks tasty
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« Reply #7730 on: July 09, 2024, 10:02:36 AM »
Spit f4 classics vs radials. pros and cons?

Radials will last longer and will roll over rough terrain a bit easier due to the wider contact patch. This will also increase weight and wheelbite potential.

Classics will be lighter, might roll faster on smooth terrain and be a bit more nimble with tech tricks but will wear down quicker.

I personally prefer Radials. Classics in bigger sizes almost become radials when they wear down.

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« Reply #7731 on: July 09, 2024, 10:30:52 AM »
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I've tried just about everything in the insole thread. The Superfeet Cushion, Superfeet Active Run, the thinnest Remind, and some old FP seem to work the best depending on shoe. If it's a brand that relies on the insole for cushion (you're fucked if it's Vans) then obviously something more substantial makes sense. For my current NB 600 I have some olllld FP that are like 4mm I think and look just a tad thicker than stock. With flat feet and the heat molding they feel fairly supportive.
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Oh wow. That's exactly what I wanna do. NB# 600 with some FP insoles. I try the low gamechangers first and maybe then the normal gamechangers. I also have some older Etnies Joslin insoles but they have the arch support at the right spot and feel good most days. Some of the older Sole Tech insoles are really nice.

Thanks for all the detailed answers ya all. Slap pals power.

*back to wheels. I like the Spit F4 Conicals and Conical Fulls. 99a 52mm. Still getting used to the slightly wider Conical Fulls. The pop is awesome with these wheels, but locking in on coping feels a bit sketchy. As in, I want to lock into the coping but my wheels are riding on the coping. That point between locking in and rolling out, feels super scary to me. Especially because we have one of these scary spines with double coping in our local park.
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I think it's easier to lock in with a skinnier wheel like Bones V5 or Spit Conical. Maybe a larger wheel diameter would help locking in with CF's?
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Been on V3/V5s for a minute, set-up a different  board with some ricta slims (just a V1 shape essenstially) all day I was slipping out of krooks fs/bs and didn't think anything of it until later in the day; took out the board with the V5s and everything was fine. I like the spit conical just wish the lip had more angle to it.

Switched the slim ricta to Ricta 'mids' I had kicking around. V5 shape and hard as nails. Also, they are on sale over at NHS for $16/18 a set. Well worth it. https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/52mm-facchini-orbital-naturals-white-metallic-red-mid-101a-ricta-skateboard-wheels?variant=42104545476765

https://rictawheels.com/shapes


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Goddamnit xen, now I’m looking at rictas, totally forgot Wade D still rode for them, that shape looks tasty

Ricta gets worse vibes on this forum than bones. The 103s are 'old school' hard/fast/white/loud/barky-ass wheels (and they slide); an aquired taste to be sure. Did I mention they're hard? They make stf 103a/spit 101a feel like spongey 97s.

At 52mm, they are just a hair wider than the 52mm V5s: Mids are 0.7mm wider and the contact patch is 0.5mm wider. And the shape is, in fact, tasty. Only wheel shape out that matches up.

They wear very fast compared to bones and just a bit more than spit; I've not flat spotted any of them except some speedrings 12 yrs ago (smooth park and got stopped by a piece of mulch).
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« Reply #7732 on: July 09, 2024, 12:18:53 PM »
Loving my Keyframes lately.  Such smoothness.   They do not slide great but you can force them with a bit of effort.

You would definitely love Dragons or 93 Spits even more.

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« Reply #7733 on: July 10, 2024, 01:17:42 PM »
All this talk of dragons and soft sliders.

I want feedback from people who rode or ride 95a wheels such as nomads, slime balls, team riders (all nhs wheels).   

How do they slide?  How are they at the park and on crusty streets?

Even better if you can compare 95a to 93a dragons or spits

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« Reply #7734 on: July 10, 2024, 07:26:21 PM »
All this talk of dragons and soft sliders.

I want feedback from people who rode or ride 95a wheels such as nomads, slime balls, team riders (all nhs wheels).   

How do they slide?  How are they at the park and on crusty streets?

Even better if you can compare 95a to 93a dragons or spits


I have had all of them come through my hands and skated boards with them on, more just as a test roll once set up, than actually having them on my own board, but I think in the right situations, almost any wheel can be made to slide, more so by the skill of the user than the properties of the wheels.

Maybe just me, but I would take Spitfires over anything else, then Bones, even though the Dragons are almost too soft for general stuff, then the others, but the bigger Team Riders are an amazing wheel for what they are and some people love them for what they bring to their game.

Nomads are just a little funny to me - almost too slippery on surfaces I think they would be better with and yet a little too grippy on other surfaces I would prefer them to slide, so I am not a fan of the sets I have, which I tried on my own boards and took off after a couple of sessions.

Slimeballs are also another amazing wheel, usually more so in bigger sizes, as the smaller ones felt a little slow, but they hold up well enough and do what I needed when I had them on boards I skated, more bigger fun shaped boards, but they still slide and stayed more true than Nomads.

NHS wheels tend to flatspot more than Bones or Spitfire too, but any of them can end up with chunks out if the wheels hit something, or stop rolling but momentum keeps them going, just way less on Spitfires and almost none at all on Bones.


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« Reply #7735 on: July 11, 2024, 04:50:32 PM »
I was the one who asked Bones about STF a while back. I was just told they will still be made.
But I don't see anything but the nano rats?!?
https://www.skateone.com/skateboard-wheels/dragons/nano-rats

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« Reply #7736 on: July 14, 2024, 06:06:51 AM »
I was the one who asked Bones about STF a while back. I was just told they will still be made.
But I don't see anything but the nano rats?!?
https://www.skateone.com/skateboard-wheels/dragons/nano-rats

Yea man I was on stf as well, xen posted a similar ricta to the shape I was riding on bones above, if your looking for a hard wheel like the old stf that’ll be your best bet, you can still find some stfs on sale though, use that union discount webstore and you find a couple shops that are tryin to get rid of their old stock, i actually ordered a set of x99s to try for the first time today so I’m having to change with the times as well, good luck finding stf my guy
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« Reply #7737 on: July 14, 2024, 09:02:57 AM »
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I was the one who asked Bones about STF a while back. I was just told they will still be made.
But I don't see anything but the nano rats?!?
https://www.skateone.com/skateboard-wheels/dragons/nano-rats
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Yea man I was on stf as well, xen posted a similar ricta to the shape I was riding on bones above, if your looking for a hard wheel like the old stf that’ll be your best bet, you can still find some stfs on sale though, use that union discount webstore and you find a couple shops that are tryin to get rid of their old stock, i actually ordered a set of x99s to try for the first time today so I’m having to change with the times as well, good luck finding stf my guy

Intersting drop those nano rats.

There are some 'new' 99a STFs up at Skateone: https://www.skateone.com/skateboard-wheels/street-tech-formula-tm

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« Reply #7738 on: July 15, 2024, 05:31:31 AM »
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You would definitely love Dragons or 93 Spits even more.

+1 X formula 97a or 99a.

https://www.skateone.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-omega-60x40mm-99a-4pk

I'm interested the new Bones X99 "Omega". Finally a real "full" sized wheel in the X99 formula. Looks like a radial full type rounded shape. Would be so fast and would just blast through anything.

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« Reply #7739 on: July 15, 2024, 08:00:00 AM »
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Loving my Keyframes lately.  Such smoothness.   They do not slide great but you can force them with a bit of effort.
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You would definitely love Dragons or 93 Spits even more.
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+1 X formula 97a or 99a.

https://www.skateone.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-omega-60x40mm-99a-4pk

I'm interested the new Bones X99 "Omega". Finally a real "full" sized wheel in the X99 formula. Looks like a radial full type rounded shape. Would be so fast and would just blast through anything.


I just got the omegas and they are what you’d expect. I went from 58mm og classics 99a to them. Mostly was wanting to find the in between of the f4 99 and x97, but I also like big wheels so these are great.

X99 feels perfect for what I was wanting, at least until the remake of the f4 97 propaganda makes me curious if it could be more perfect.