Wheels Thread

[pinkeye fieri]

I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

spitfire tablet is slightly beefier than bones v2
spitfire classic is slightly beefier than bones v1

spitfire shapes are generally chonkier than their bones analogs.

the x-formula/soft sliders are worth the hype, less so if you only skate smooth pavement/skateparks, but definitely worth trying in general.  especially if you skate in the streets, have chronic pain, are old etc

[moonordie]

I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

I hated my X97, they felt like q toy. Super plastic feeling and boards bounced a lot

[Reese Bruno]

I like my x97s in colder temps, but now that it's warming up I'm switching back to 99 f4. Never had any problems with them but they are a bit bouncy. Easy to adjust to but not perfect feeling, ya know

[DNTRODDEN]

I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

I love my x97 Double locks, they feel much faster than the 97 F4, I have moved up to the x99, still trying to feel that out, but they revert really nice!

also the Cones in 99 is pretty sweet 2, I am completely off all my F4 for now

[rob]

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I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

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I love my x97 Double locks, they feel much faster than the 97 F4, I have moved up to the x99, still trying to feel that out, but they revert really nice!

also the Cones in 99 is pretty sweet 2, I am completely off all my F4 for now

How much softer and faster are the 97 double locks compared to the 99 v7 double locks?

I have the 99 but contemplating to go softer with the x97

[pinkeye fieri]

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I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

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I love my x97 Double locks, they feel much faster than the 97 F4, I have moved up to the x99, still trying to feel that out, but they revert really nice!

also the Cones in 99 is pretty sweet 2, I am completely off all my F4 for now

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How much softer and faster are the 97 double locks compared to the 99 v7 double locks?

I have the 99 but contemplating to go softer with the x97

the v7 shape is so good in x97. they feel softer than x99, but since the sidewalls of v7 are maximally thick, the outer edges of the riding surface don't mush out, so they still feel hella solid/sturdy. i feel like this shape brings out the best qualities of the x97.

[DNTRODDEN]

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I used to love the Bones V2 shape in my teenage years but tried the Spitfire Tablets a few years back and the ledge and flip trick magic wasn’t there..

Tempted to try these X Formulas. I’m assuming 97a isn’t too much worse than a Spitfire 99a for slides? Also is the Bones V1 essentially the same shape as a Spitfire Classic? Does the X Formula offer anything really different or is it all high-performance urethane at the end of the day/session? 

https://bones.com/bones-wheels-x-formula-skateboard-wheels-pudwill-frying-eyes-53-v2-locks-x-formula-97a-4pk

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I love my x97 Double locks, they feel much faster than the 97 F4, I have moved up to the x99, still trying to feel that out, but they revert really nice!

also the Cones in 99 is pretty sweet 2, I am completely off all my F4 for now

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How much softer and faster are the 97 double locks compared to the 99 v7 double locks?

I have the 99 but contemplating to go softer with the x97

Pretty much what is typed above. When I bought my 99V6 I couldn’t find the V7. But the 99 is fast and pretty quiet on the reverts.

My feet are still getting used to the chatter!

[Sloppy Krooks]

In my experience, the 99x doesn’t benefit from the formula.

Softer duros like 97a and lower definitely benefit from the formula, because they are made for rough ground, and are perfect for it.

But by the time you get to 99a, you aren’t really skating crust so you don’t get any extra functionality. In fact, they just seem like gummier 99as. And they are stickier on smooths stuff.

I think traditional STF formula is better for the harder duros.

[Chalupa]

Is anyone’s shop getting these in soon?

https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/55mm-nick-boserio-little-devils-original-white-99a-skateboard-wheels-oj?variant=47333350244509

I’ll buy at least two sets and some softgoods, because I would rather not buy directly. These sold out quickly during the first run, so I don’t know if a lot of people wanted to try them or if limited quantities were made.

Radial Fulls would be the closest, with about 4mm less in width for the 55mm, but the OJs have an additional 10mm of riding surface compared to the RFs.

[DNTRODDEN]

In my experience, the 99x doesn’t benefit from the formula.

Softer duros like 97a and lower definitely benefit from the formula, because they are made for rough ground, and are perfect for it.

But by the time you get to 99a, you aren’t really skating crust so you don’t get any extra functionality. In fact, they just seem like gummier 99as. And they are stickier on smooths stuff.

I think traditional STF formula is better for the harder duros.

Totally get that for sure, but thex99 do not "chatter" as much on the concrete at my local, which is not crusty by any stretch, but it is still outdoor and is not super smooth either.  I like the "dampening" that X provides, and so do my feet.

But with all things YMMV!

[rikki]

The X97 are great for crust. But they can feel sticky and sluggish on harder ground.

What's notable is the the new duro Spitfire 97s feel WAY harder than the X97. I mean, the difference is very noticeable. I think the X99 is closer to what the new Spit 97 feels like.

All of the above outperform the Powell Dragons.

Anyway, it's great to have all the options of today. If I skated only crust, I'd go for the X97s. But as an all-around wheel for an old guy, the new duro Spit 97 is awesome, with the X99 not far behind. Could live with both if I had to choose only one of them for the rest of my rollin' days.

[Slave IV]

I thought Powell Dragons are the same formula as Bones X formula?

[DNTRODDEN]

The X97 are great for crust. But they can feel sticky and sluggish on harder ground.

What's notable is the the new duro Spitfire 97s feel WAY harder than the X97. I mean, the difference is very noticeable. I think the X99 is closer to what the new Spit 97 feels like.

All of the above outperform the Powell Dragons.

Anyway, it's great to have all the options of today. If I skated only crust, I'd go for the X97s. But as an all-around wheel for an old guy, the new duro Spit 97 is awesome, with the X99 not far behind. Could live with both if I had to choose only one of them for the rest of my rollin' days.

and I know this is an outlier, but I skated both the X97 and F4-97 at the same sesh, the F4 just seemed sluggish, same bearings, I dont know...might be a bad set of F4s, but this is why I moved to the X99, to so I can train my feet to ride the harder stuff

[logjammin]

decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

[Barack Hussein]

decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

I just saw that they made the new V8 shape in the x97 and this write up is my sign to get some! I had x97s on a board that got stolen a few years ago, and I honestly think it was my goldilocks wheel (but of course ended up trying other shit after haha). I just remember feeling confident on any crust, skateparks, dusty indoor ramps, without any real 'noticeable' drawbacks, at least for the way I skate. Only thing that was slightly weaker was the bark, but I kinda dig that phat gummier sound of softer wheels sliding too. I haven't seen any pics of the V8 shape set up on a board yet either. How they lookin?

[logjammin]

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decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

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I just saw that they made the new V8 shape in the x97 and this write up is my sign to get some! I had x97s on a board that got stolen a few years ago, and I honestly think it was my goldilocks wheel (but of course ended up trying other shit after haha). I just remember feeling confident on any crust, skateparks, dusty indoor ramps, without any real 'noticeable' drawbacks, at least for the way I skate. Only thing that was slightly weaker was the bark, but I kinda dig that phat gummier sound of softer wheels sliding too. I haven't seen any pics of the V8 shape set up on a board yet either. How they lookin?

hell yeah, you definitely should get them. here's some pics

[DNTRODDEN]

decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

I loved my x97 V7 Double Locks, have not tried the V8 and I am a wide wheel kinda guy, but I have decided to move up to the X99 formula, think I am on a set of V6 54mm in the 99 and really like them

[bombsaway86]

The X99 formula is so good and they keep getting better with age. I have a set of V7s from last summer that I didn’t like at first, but now I use them for almost everything while my Spirfires collect dust.

One complaint I had about the X99s is that they felt slower than F4 99s on new concrete. Now that they’re broken in, I did a back to back comparison on a brand new skatepark and the X99s were just as fast as the F4 99s (V7 vs OG classics, both 58mm).

I’m also very impressed with the flat spot resistance on the X99s. I’ve hit a few rocks that would have ended my Spitfires. I’ve gotten one flat spot but it worked itself out after two runs.

Spits still slide and sound better though

[hiljentaa]

Still want to try 52 or 53mm V1 X99.

I skated thru a set of 52 STF 99 that I got for free last year and I enjoyed them fully. Would skate again, especially for <$30.

Have three sets of 52mm F4 Classics on boards now. Will buy Bones after these. I prefer the Bones shapes over Spitfire.

[Barack Hussein]

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decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

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I just saw that they made the new V8 shape in the x97 and this write up is my sign to get some! I had x97s on a board that got stolen a few years ago, and I honestly think it was my goldilocks wheel (but of course ended up trying other shit after haha). I just remember feeling confident on any crust, skateparks, dusty indoor ramps, without any real 'noticeable' drawbacks, at least for the way I skate. Only thing that was slightly weaker was the bark, but I kinda dig that phat gummier sound of softer wheels sliding too. I haven't seen any pics of the V8 shape set up on a board yet either. How they lookin?

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hell yeah, you definitely should get them. here's some pics

Sickk - that setup looks like a dream!! Ace classic 66s are lookin right too! Thanks for the pics.

I'm so fried sometimes haha. I know I loved the x97, but the potential of trying something new (x99) is tempting me right now. I know I can't really go wrong with either so we will see! I'm gonna grab a set after work.

[DNTRODDEN]

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decided to try the new bones V8 shape since it's a radial full but has more rounded edges. it's like a classic full full full. I went with the x97 's and had a perfect session on smooth park. no issues with too much or too little of this or that, they just felt dialed right away and were way faster coming from old formula 97a spits. barked better on powerslides, too. I'm really impressed with these wheels, just going to keep them on all summer and skate them on all terrain.

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I just saw that they made the new V8 shape in the x97 and this write up is my sign to get some! I had x97s on a board that got stolen a few years ago, and I honestly think it was my goldilocks wheel (but of course ended up trying other shit after haha). I just remember feeling confident on any crust, skateparks, dusty indoor ramps, without any real 'noticeable' drawbacks, at least for the way I skate. Only thing that was slightly weaker was the bark, but I kinda dig that phat gummier sound of softer wheels sliding too. I haven't seen any pics of the V8 shape set up on a board yet either. How they lookin?

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hell yeah, you definitely should get them. here's some pics

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Sickk - that setup looks like a dream!! Ace classic 66s are lookin right too! Thanks for the pics.

I'm so fried sometimes haha. I know I loved the x97, but the potential of trying something new (x99) is tempting me right now. I know I can't really go wrong with either so we will see! I'm gonna grab a set after work.

I was a die hard X97 until I decided to try the X99, for me, it is still everything I like about the 97, just faster.

I will say, they are pretty quiet on the slide

[bombsaway86]

https://youtu.be/BKtMhQXg85A?si=w4bk6MW9kC6WC4Pj

This was posted 7 months ago but I just recently saw it. He’s testing another prototype Bones wheel, maybe an X101?

[DNTRODDEN]

https://youtu.be/BKtMhQXg85A?si=w4bk6MW9kC6WC4Pj

This was posted 7 months ago but I just recently saw it. He’s testing another prototype Bones wheel, maybe an X101?

Here is Andrew Cannon review a new Bones wheel as well

https://youtu.be/lTxZQ_sSnkY?si=ZuCV23AykIpQUQ-s

[Schinken]

Recently been on the speed labs website and saw they got a new wheel, 93a "Slayer Formula". Anyone tried it yet or heard something about them?

[tuesday]

Tried not, but heard the name already: When Spitfire debuted the 93a Softsliders after Powell came out with the Dragons someone on here said Spitfire should have named them the 'Dragon Slayers'. Whoever it was should get some royalties or at least a couple free sets of the wheels from Speedlab for coming up with the name.

[vino]

Has anyone here had problems with the bearings coming out of their Spitfire OG Classics wheels? I bought the set about 8 months ago and I've never had this kind of problem with other wheels. I've been using Spitfire for over 8 years and I'm thinking of going back to Bones or some other brand.

[bombsaway86]

Has anyone here had problems with the bearings coming out of their Spitfire OG Classics wheels? I bought the set about 8 months ago and I've never had this kind of problem with other wheels. I've been using Spitfire for over 8 years and I'm thinking of going back to Bones or some other brand.

Get rid of your bearing spacers if you’re using them. I’ve come to the conclusion this happens when the spacer is too wide for the wheel.

Use a q-tip to apply a light coat of lube in the bearing seat when you put the bearing back in, this will help it go in straight and make it easier to push back in if it continues to back out.

[sk8n hugon]

“We’ll just make a 93a wheel, use a spitfire looking font, and add a Powell graphic. The over 40 crowd will either buy it out of curiosity, spite, or boredom, but they’ll definitely buy it.” Haha

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone here had problems with the bearings coming out of their Spitfire OG Classics wheels? I bought the set about 8 months ago and I've never had this kind of problem with other wheels. I've been using Spitfire for over 8 years and I'm thinking of going back to Bones or some other brand.

There is a thread about it here:

Bearings moving in the bearing seat

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=125264.0


Quite simply, it can happen to any brand, so it is not just the one brand of wheel or shape or anything, but usually if this has become a problem, there are ways to try to fix it, eg most basic option is to clean the outside of the bearings and the inside of the wheels, put them back in dry, no lube or anything and they are less likely to slip out again, but I have noticed some wheels or even with some bearings, things just don't want to fit in and they will always move around a bit, as per information in that thread about it.

Alternate options can even include reaching out to DLX and ask them about it via this link.  They are very good at responding and assisting with product issues from any of their brands:

https://www.dlxsf.com/now-its-your-turn/


It is really up to you how you want to deal with it, but in the past, people asking for help from DLX will often get a replacement set of wheels, which is a cheaper option than buying another set of anything.

Hope that helps.


* I have had a number of sets like this over the years, from various brands, most of which cannot be fixed really, apart from putting some really old bearings in that seem to fill up the gap more than any newer bearings, maybe because they have a little surface rust or other things going on, but once the bearing seat area widens out, any bearing is going to slip in it, especially with any side to side tricks where the wheel is being pushed on an angle.  Brands include Spitfire, Bones and others, so it is just something that can happen over time, more so than anything else, but can also happen to brand new wheels too.

[DNTRODDEN]

Recently been on the speed labs website and saw they got a new wheel, 93a "Slayer Formula". Anyone tried it yet or heard something about them?

I have not tried these, because 93 is too soft for my taste, I am hoping they expand the new formula line, I have a set of 97a Shrimps that I absolutely love.