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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2820 on: November 03, 2024, 06:32:42 AM »
Okay elevator pitch: what does everyone like about the easy rider over the normal concave?
im going to argue against easy rider, board is really flexible even with lighter riders, and it messed with my timing so i bailed on it pretty quick.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2821 on: November 03, 2024, 06:46:44 AM »
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Okay elevator pitch: what does everyone like about the easy rider over the normal concave?
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im going to argue against easy rider, board is really flexible even with lighter riders, and it messed with my timing so i bailed on it pretty quick.
Thanks, that was my fear because I like have the side concave "readable" so I don't have to look down to see where my feet are on the board.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2822 on: November 03, 2024, 08:36:35 AM »
lolwut the boards are not more flexible at all. I'm a taller person and 177lbs and haven't noticed any additional flex in the 3 I've ridden.

Elevator pitch is that for people that prefer a bit less ramp after the bolts might like the extra room. My friend has the 8.25x14.38 and standing on it for doing a nose manual I can feel the concave in my arch and don't care for it. On the same shape but easy rider I don't.

Also I really wish they took that fucking 14.38WB and pushed the rear truck even a tad forward for a 6.625 or 6.68 tail instead of 6.5

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2823 on: November 03, 2024, 08:52:22 AM »
Also I really wish they took that fucking 14.38WB and pushed the rear truck even a tad forward for a 6.625 or 6.68 tail instead of 6.5

DEATH TO INFIDELS! The 8.25/14.38 is the best deck made in the history of skateboarding. NOTHING should be touched on it!!!!
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2824 on: November 03, 2024, 08:54:00 AM »
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Okay elevator pitch: what does everyone like about the easy rider over the normal concave?
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im going to argue against easy rider, board is really flexible even with lighter riders, and it messed with my timing so i bailed on it pretty quick.
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Thanks, that was my fear because I like have the side concave "readable" so I don't have to look down to see where my feet are on the board.
I tried to skate the easy rider (krooked 8.06 with 14.38 wb) , feels too flexy and the pop too light. Tried every truck on it. I love flat boards but these are not for me.

DOA flat molds were it. From the 7.5 to the 8.25. They all skated good and were flatter.

I also skated a standard 8.5 anti hero eagle and it felt the same. Flexy. I wanted to give other boards a try other than palace decks. Did not work out so far.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2825 on: November 03, 2024, 09:29:47 AM »
No offense but what's your weight? The Palace reasin decks are mega stiff so maybe they just work for you?

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« Reply #2826 on: November 03, 2024, 11:14:21 AM »
Question for my Euro and Aussie friends: do you guys still get shaped DLX boards since the production has moved to China, or are those only made in (and for) America? My local (Swiss) distributor has some recent DLX stuff in stock but absolutely no shaped boards which is terrible.  :'(

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2827 on: November 03, 2024, 01:43:07 PM »
No offense but what's your weight? The Palace reasin decks are mega stiff so maybe they just work for you?
I dont get offended, I'm fat at  235. Size 13 shoe.

But it's weird this is kinda recent. Then i skated a couple of random bbs boards. I skated a Carpet co.8.25, a baker mellow 8.0, and a alien workshop 8.5. All bbs and none felt like my last AH and this Easy rider.

I'm giving it one more shot with ventures on forged baseplates to see whats up. I think bbs boards with too much fingers of flat tend to flex. So reducing those fingers of flat might alleviate some of the flex issue.
As we know resin ddm boards and crail boards are stiff so having more space(fingers of flat) between the baseplate to tail/nose curb does not cause that flex.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2828 on: November 03, 2024, 02:17:50 PM »
Question for my Euro and Aussie friends: do you guys still get shaped DLX boards since the production has moved to China, or are those only made in (and for) America? My local (Swiss) distributor has some recent DLX stuff in stock but absolutely no shaped boards which is terrible.  :'(


Yeah they have pretty much the whole range here in AU, but from what I see from Aussie shops, most boards are pre booked more than just available in stock, so the local distro only gets in a few more than pre booked (if at all), so from that the cool shapes, like the Huffer, Green Giant, Genius and other shapes sold out pretty quickly,  last I checked.

That is where shops that order or request things in the pre book stage get what they want but others who don't pre book anything could very easily miss out on whole drops of stock, or only have whatever is left over at the end to order from.

Maybe boards out of China are made to order, more so than just make X number of everything and hope they all sell, which is better for business planning, but then if there is no planning from a shop or even a distributor, I guess there would not be many or any of those boards coming into the country.

Limited understanding could be way off, but I think that is about it.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2829 on: November 03, 2024, 02:48:18 PM »
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Okay elevator pitch: what does everyone like about the easy rider over the normal concave?
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im going to argue against easy rider, board is really flexible even with lighter riders, and it messed with my timing so i bailed on it pretty quick.
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Thanks, that was my fear because I like have the side concave "readable" so I don't have to look down to see where my feet are on the board.
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I tried to skate the easy rider (krooked 8.06 with 14.38 wb) , feels too flexy and the pop too light. Tried every truck on it. I love flat boards but these are not for me.

DOA flat molds were it. From the 7.5 to the 8.25. They all skated good and were flatter.

I also skated a standard 8.5 anti hero eagle and it felt the same. Flexy. I wanted to give other boards a try other than palace decks. Did not work out so far.


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No offense but what's your weight? The Palace reasin decks are mega stiff so maybe they just work for you?
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I dont get offended, I'm fat at  235. Size 13 shoe.

But it's weird this is kinda recent. Then i skated a couple of random bbs boards. I skated a Carpet co.8.25, a baker mellow 8.0, and a alien workshop 8.5. All bbs and none felt like my last AH and this Easy rider.

I'm giving it one more shot with ventures on forged baseplates to see whats up. I think bbs boards with too much fingers of flat tend to flex. So reducing those fingers of flat might alleviate some of the flex issue.
As we know resin ddm boards and crail boards are stiff so having more space(fingers of flat) between the baseplate to tail/nose curb does not cause that flex.



Probably too much text to quote it all, but the main thing I will note with the DLX boards - BBS vs China / epoxy boards is this:


I am used to how much BBS flex, but sometimes it is too much for me, or if I have landed hard, the board doesn't break but it is pretty much done as the tail is flexing below the level of the rest of the board when I go to do anything.  It might not help but at the very least I drive over the new unused boards on a regular basis to get them a little more mellow to start with, but that is beside the point.

When I tried some of the DLX China boards, I was completely thrown off by how stiff they are, even now to the point where riding a couple of them I still have set up, they just feel too stiff and it is almost uncomfortable for me, or I bail things I would usually land every time on a BBS board.


If you are more used to the epoxy stiffness, almost any BBS board could potentially feel like soggy cardboard very quickly, in the same way that I found the epoxy board too stiff, so what people are used to really makes a whole lot more difference than others might think.

Recently I tried a few new unflattened boards, just regular BBS DLX boards and although some were really crispy and almost too stiff, others were already feeling just nice, which for some might equate to soggy feeling.  I tried to get almost all IV stamps too, but a couple are II or III as well.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2830 on: November 03, 2024, 07:29:07 PM »
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Okay elevator pitch: what does everyone like about the easy rider over the normal concave?
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im going to argue against easy rider, board is really flexible even with lighter riders, and it messed with my timing so i bailed on it pretty quick.
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Thanks, that was my fear because I like have the side concave "readable" so I don't have to look down to see where my feet are on the board.
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I tried to skate the easy rider (krooked 8.06 with 14.38 wb) , feels too flexy and the pop too light. Tried every truck on it. I love flat boards but these are not for me.

DOA flat molds were it. From the 7.5 to the 8.25. They all skated good and were flatter.

I also skated a standard 8.5 anti hero eagle and it felt the same. Flexy. I wanted to give other boards a try other than palace decks. Did not work out so far.
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No offense but what's your weight? The Palace reasin decks are mega stiff so maybe they just work for you?
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I dont get offended, I'm fat at  235. Size 13 shoe.

But it's weird this is kinda recent. Then i skated a couple of random bbs boards. I skated a Carpet co.8.25, a baker mellow 8.0, and a alien workshop 8.5. All bbs and none felt like my last AH and this Easy rider.

I'm giving it one more shot with ventures on forged baseplates to see whats up. I think bbs boards with too much fingers of flat tend to flex. So reducing those fingers of flat might alleviate some of the flex issue.
As we know resin ddm boards and crail boards are stiff so having more space(fingers of flat) between the baseplate to tail/nose curb does not cause that flex.
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Probably too much text to quote it all, but the main thing I will note with the DLX boards - BBS vs China / epoxy boards is this:


I am used to how much BBS flex, but sometimes it is too much for me, or if I have landed hard, the board doesn't break but it is pretty much done as the tail is flexing below the level of the rest of the board when I go to do anything.  It might not help but at the very least I drive over the new unused boards on a regular basis to get them a little more mellow to start with, but that is beside the point.

So I guess i was kinda right, i reduced the flat before the tail/nose scoop up by using venture forged and the tail feels great. Not that much flex. I also added 58mm radials to make the board heavier and high 5.2 hangers cause my lows are on a palace.
The nose still feels a bit soggy amd light but i got a couple of good sw flips so I'm good.

Somebody mentioned ben degros designed this with ventures in mind but i would think with a 14.38 wb you would want to use indys or v8s or thunders. I actually had the opposite. I had to max it out with the forged. Even on the pic below there is still flat before the tail using forged baseplates. That is impossible with a palace.  The baseplate would be floating 3mm or so.




Side note the size of the tail and nose is the same on paper. But it doesn't feel like a twin.

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« Reply #2831 on: November 03, 2024, 09:00:01 PM »
Ben says lots of shit. He skated fine on the 14.25 Manderson on cast Ventures, I think his flip tricks looked better on it than his low setups. Plenty of people skate em on 14.38/14.5 fine

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2832 on: November 04, 2024, 08:44:21 AM »
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Question for my Euro and Aussie friends: do you guys still get shaped DLX boards since the production has moved to China, or are those only made in (and for) America? My local (Swiss) distributor has some recent DLX stuff in stock but absolutely no shaped boards which is terrible.  :'(
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Yeah they have pretty much the whole range here in AU, but from what I see from Aussie shops, most boards are pre booked more than just available in stock, so the local distro only gets in a few more than pre booked (if at all), so from that the cool shapes, like the Huffer, Green Giant, Genius and other shapes sold out pretty quickly,  last I checked.

That is where shops that order or request things in the pre book stage get what they want but others who don't pre book anything could very easily miss out on whole drops of stock, or only have whatever is left over at the end to order from.

Maybe boards out of China are made to order, more so than just make X number of everything and hope they all sell, which is better for business planning, but then if there is no planning from a shop or even a distributor, I guess there would not be many or any of those boards coming into the country.

Limited understanding could be way off, but I think that is about it.

Thanks.

The current local distributor doesn't seem to make any pre-booking for DLX stuff which is such a shame. Hopefully this will change.
Until last year all that wonderful stuff was distributed by other people, friends of mine, which meant I had access to anything I wanted but now it's much harder to get anything and it's that new stuff from China I'm still scared of.

I feel like an orphan.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2833 on: November 04, 2024, 01:24:50 PM »
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Anyone know what is this new secret deck technology/shape/mold/whatever it is that Jim T and Ishod have been teasing on instagram?
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No idea, unless it is the easy rider, that came out in a few more options this latest drop.

More info here:


https://www.dlxsf.com/easyriders/


Any which way, it would be good to have some screen shots of said tease, so we can all be amazed too - yeah I missed the bus on that one, as I went looking and didn't see anything from either of them just now.
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“DLX advance top secret shit” from Jim Ts profile in the past two weeks. He’s also been posting clearer shots in his stories. Because these are new posts I doubt that it’s Easy Rider, or it’s Easy Rider plus something else.

Also it looks like Ishod is riding the same deck here last week
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBh-C9QvmPm/
Same yellow oval, and the concave does look like easy rider. It otherwise seems odd to just post some 3-flips in a row if not to show “it works”
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Your super zoom option on that board was a good one.  Didn't even think to look that closely at the board itself, from the normal post.

Also saw Ishod doing the multiple tre flips and also forwarded that to others showing he is still on the drilled in Venture trucks, but also didn't notice anything about the deck other than the yellow oval graphic.

So then as you said, could be something else or just a bit of fun or who knows what.  Any guesses...

Low Pro III

Mellow mold II, or maybe III as I know they had it out before and another one like the "Easy rider" concave a while back, as in way back actually, from ads from a decade or more ago.

Six ply, or Eight ply or something else...


Any which way, it should be interesting to see when the time comes to bring it out.

Thanks for the close up pic too!
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2834 on: November 05, 2024, 09:50:42 AM »
They're going to start doing 6 ply decks that are significantly more expensive and last 2-3x as long.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2835 on: November 05, 2024, 09:57:18 AM »
They're going to start doing 6 ply decks that are significantly more expensive and last 2-3x as long.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2836 on: November 12, 2024, 08:28:41 PM »
Really rolling out the subversive promo on this one

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2837 on: November 13, 2024, 06:51:37 AM »
Layer of Carbon Fiber in between the normal plys? If you want super light and super strong that would be my guess
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« Reply #2838 on: November 13, 2024, 08:27:35 AM »
Would try. Just don't limit it to the effin' Easy Rider shape/concave, please.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2839 on: November 13, 2024, 08:50:54 AM »
DLX's answer to VX/Flight?

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2840 on: November 13, 2024, 10:02:56 AM »
DLX's answer to VX/Flight?
Carbon nano-tubes.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2841 on: November 13, 2024, 10:16:21 AM »
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DLX's answer to VX/Flight?
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Carbon nano-tubes.

Oh are they going with the Professor on this one?!

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« Reply #2842 on: November 13, 2024, 10:36:13 AM »
I think they've done some 8ply decks? The original Flight/VX.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2843 on: November 13, 2024, 01:16:08 PM »
dumb question because I'm pretty sure I know the answer but, all of the dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 decks are the same shape as the blue eagle? where its slightly under 8.5. new sweatpants graphic is in that shape and Ive been running the 8.5 easy rider since it came out and thinking about seeing if I like the reg concave more. was going to grab a blue eagle from the local but might be nice to have a new graphic .

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2844 on: November 13, 2024, 01:20:49 PM »
dumb question because I'm pretty sure I know the answer but, all of the dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 decks are the same shape as the blue eagle? where its slightly under 8.5. new sweatpants graphic is in that shape and Ive been running the 8.5 easy rider since it came out and thinking about seeing if I like the reg concave more. was going to grab a blue eagle from the local but might be nice to have a new graphic .

Every dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 is the same shape.
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« Reply #2845 on: November 15, 2024, 06:40:28 PM »
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DLX's answer to VX/Flight?
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Carbon nano-tubes.
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Oh are they going with the Professor on this one?!

Well there you go.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #2846 on: November 16, 2024, 08:33:42 AM »
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dumb question because I'm pretty sure I know the answer but, all of the dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 decks are the same shape as the blue eagle? where its slightly under 8.5. new sweatpants graphic is in that shape and Ive been running the 8.5 easy rider since it came out and thinking about seeing if I like the reg concave more. was going to grab a blue eagle from the local but might be nice to have a new graphic .
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Every dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 is the same shape.

Yeah and they're all more like 8.375 wide.

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« Reply #2847 on: November 17, 2024, 07:25:57 AM »
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dumb question because I'm pretty sure I know the answer but, all of the dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 decks are the same shape as the blue eagle? where its slightly under 8.5. new sweatpants graphic is in that shape and Ive been running the 8.5 easy rider since it came out and thinking about seeing if I like the reg concave more. was going to grab a blue eagle from the local but might be nice to have a new graphic .
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Every dlx 8.5x31.8x14.25 is the same shape.
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Yeah and they're all more like 8.375 wide.
Yep, I haven’t been measuring them but stepping on a true 8.5 you can feel haha

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« Reply #2848 on: November 19, 2024, 09:45:39 AM »
This might have already been covered... but is the Krooked Wegg shape (Andrew Wilson's egg) symmetrical?

Looks like the tail and nose are the same lengths. And looks very close to the GFB twin tails with an 1/8" longer WB.

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« Reply #2849 on: November 19, 2024, 09:57:50 AM »
This might have already been covered... but is the Krooked Wegg shape (Andrew Wilson's egg) symmetrical?

Looks like the tail and nose are the same lengths. And looks very close to the GFB twin tails with an 1/8" longer WB.
According to Tactics (not sure how reliable that is), it is a twin: 9.1 x 32, 14.5 WB, 6.75 at each end.