Honestly, in my opinion, if you don't replace the insoles for normal chucks they're the most uncomfortable shoes ever. They're really thin and they feel hard and they have no support at all. If I do get a pair of normal chucks I usually scrape out the insoles and throw some lunarlons in there or some vans supercush insoles. They pretty much feel exactly like the skate ones when you put in new insoles. Sometimes you'll find some non skate chucks in certain limited colorways that have pretty decent insoles that have a bit of cushion, but for the normal colorways (black and white, all black, white, etc.) they always have shitty insoles. I don't know how some people skate them how they come. I just can't do it. I like my feet way too much.