Refugee crisis in Europe.

[Frank]

german parliament is apparently having a vote on friday to claim morocco, tunisia and algeria as safe countries of origin, so we don't have to take in refugees from there anymore.

reason behind this is also that most refugees from there get denied asylum anyways, and i guess also to focus on refugees of the syrian conflict.

couldn't find an article about the vote itself, but it's mentioned in this german news article.

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-05/tunesien-einsatz-extremisten-tote

[iKobrakai]

Theres been a big hupla over 2 female cops being assulted . One got kicked repellently and the other got stabbed

http://www.sydsvenskan.se/2016-05-11/mats-skogkar-om-gangen-far-styra-sviks-fororten

This follows the situation that Ambulance EMTs getting attacked , threatend and rocks thrown at them , and the same with the fire department also receiving threats and pelted by rocks , equipment sabotaged  


https://tv.nrk.no/serie/dagsrevyen/NNFA03050816/08-05-2016#t=14m44s

This is the norweigan report on the situation in Sweden . The camera team and interviewer got threatend multiple times , And the police they followed got attacked by rocks

Lamest fucking report I've ever seen. They film some 15 year old punks, big fucking deal. "Oh, look! Some punks want to steal a camera, everybody, panic now!". The journalists have the same problems in England, cause by white English citizens. Check out "Benefit Street."

Its in norweigan but has subtitles . Its quite eye opening over the situation in Sweden and how integration is a big fuck up

Yes, so groundbreaking, I was shocked! Who could have thought that the hood is full of problems? Sure, some immigrants are involved into organized crime, but the real heavy hitters are still white HA/Bandidos/etc. They command the real power.

They also ran a story later with what they call " experts " saying that integration in Norway is much different then Sweden so

"Norwegians dont have to fear that this will happen in Norway "

Stupid Norwegians! Everybody knows that they should hire illiterate high school drop-out regular chefs, instead of these so called experts!

[NickDagger]

Can you people please learn to quote each other correctly? A lot of these posts are unreadable.

[Garth Marenghi]

But they're a beautiful counterbalance to your bigoted bullshit.

[NickDagger]

[Alan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/36279977

"The international human system that deals with refugees is so "broken" that the UN has called a summit to address it.

But how did things get so bad? An explainer in numbers - featuring This Week's World presenter Emily Maitlis."

[NickDagger]

It's okay bro, I'm sure all the surrounding Muslim-majority countries will be taking them in.

[Alan]

If you only took the time to watch the segment, you'd realize that that's one of the points being made. The great majority of refugees do end up in the neighbouring countries, not only in the ME, but globally too. I'm sure that doesn't fit in the lunatic fringe narrative that the refugee crisis is a concerted Muslim effort to invade Europe, but them's the facts.

[NickDagger]

I just don't know why majority-muslim countries, which are much closer in proximity and culture, aren't more welcoming to these refugees. If say Canada had a refugee crisis, I would think most of the refugees would end up in the US and Europe. If for some reason most of them wanted to go to Asia, I wouldn't call Japan racist for saying "hey um, not sure we can handle/house/etc a hundred thousand people who don't speak our language on our small Island right now." Or for saying things like, "okay you can move here but you need to assimilate to our culture and learn the language, and not just form mini-Canada(or mini-mecca, in Europe's example)." As long as some of you can at least be sympathetic to this line of thinking, I can meet you half way. It's just the smug and lazy dismissal of any kind of obvious problem this situation may bring about as racist hysteria, which is what is driving people to go the opposite route and support extremist right-wing ideologues. There are real concerns that any country would have when trying to figure out whats the best way to address this crisis.

[Alan]

[Garth Marenghi]

But there MIGHT be terrorists among them so it's acceptable collateral damage!

[NickDagger]

I can't zoom out on the map, so I have to assume there are no Islamic countries nearby they could go to instead of braving a sea to head to a place where language/religon/culture are not shared.

[NickDagger]

[NickDagger]

[fulfillthedream]

^ so stupid- anyone can make a fake facebook profile.....

[NickDagger]

[NickDagger]

Pictured: Father who blamed police for not stopping his daughter joining ISIS screams 'burn USA' - and stands just feet from Lee Rigby's killer - at Muslim demo

[NickDagger]

[Alan]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/refugees-welcome-index-shows-government-refugee-policies-out-of-touch/

The vast majority of people (80%) would welcome refugees with open arms, with many even prepared to take them into their own homes, according to a global survey commissioned by Amnesty International.

The new Refugees Welcome Index, based on a global survey of more than 27,000 people carried out by the internationally renowned strategy consultancy GlobeScan, ranks 27 countries across all continents based on people’s willingness to let refugees live in their countries, towns, neighbourhoods and homes.

The report also contains a bunch of easy to understand graphics. Unfortunately, there aren't any inflammatory 4chan type memes or sensationalism.

[Eric ricks]

[Monty Burns]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/05/refugees-welcome-index-shows-government-refugee-policies-out-of-touch/

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The vast majority of people (80%) would welcome refugees with open arms, with many even prepared to take them into their own homes, according to a global survey commissioned by Amnesty International.

The new Refugees Welcome Index, based on a global survey of more than 27,000 people carried out by the internationally renowned strategy consultancy GlobeScan, ranks 27 countries across all continents based on people�s willingness to let refugees live in their countries, towns, neighbourhoods and homes.

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The report also contains a bunch of easy to understand graphics. Unfortunately, there aren't any inflammatory 4chan type memes or sensationalism.

Ah yes Amnesty, those are some totally not biased people. Yet again Alan is posting bullshit studies and "polls"

Most people who get asked questions by amnesty just walk away right away , busy going to a job and not answering questions from some hipster who is trying to get laid by asking hot chicks questions at the train station . Trying to show the girls how cool they are and how much they "care "

Anyways if you actually answered the question shows you already are invested in amnesty and "helping people "

The study asked about 1000 people in these 27 countries   . The population of EU is  500 million

Just take Germany . they asked 1001 people . Germanys population is about 81 million

Thats a fair poll ?  asking 1001 people out of 81 Million ?

[Alan]

Hahaha, of course a stupid and uneducated racist would be against AI.


As anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of statistics will tell you, a sample size of +/-1000 is the standard for large populations. They will also tell you that no survey is the absolute truth, but that they are good indicators on most issues. Feel free to do some research on sample sizes for large populations and open a new topic to discuss it. Any other issues you might have with the methodology used can also go in that topic.

Just kidding, I know that you're only capable of understanding oversimplified tabloid articles where everything is black and white, neat and tidy and you're told who to hate.

[Monty Burns]

Hahaha, of course a stupid and uneducated racist would be against AI.


As anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of statistics will tell you, a sample size of +/-1000 is the standard for large populations. They will also tell you that no survey is the absolute truth, but that they are good indicators on most issues. Feel free to do some research on sample sizes for large populations and open a new topic to discuss it. Any other issues you might have with the methodology used can also go in that topic.

Just kidding, I know that you're only capable of understanding oversimplified tabloid articles where everything is black and white, neat and tidy and you're told who to hate.

Just so you guys know , 1001 out of 81 million is about 0.0012358024691358023 %

Im shocked SHOCKED that a study from amnesty says exactly what their agenda is . Im suprised they had money to pay for this study with all the money the higher ups in amnesty are pocketing and sending into their swizz bank accounts .

Instead of trusting a study that polls 0.00123 % of the population ( which was carefully chosen ) Ill just look at how the people in these countries are voting and the state of the countries
 
No country in the EU is expanding their intake of refugees . Right wing parties are gaining ground in the EU and are winning elections .
Hate crimes against refugees are increasing . More refugees are being sent back home or to Turkey and Greece .

One thing besides the rise of the right in europe is the lack of millions of people protesting that we are not taking in more refugees

Europe has spoken in the way the politics and the people are voting and the actions . Not some fucking stupid poll by amnesty

Alans house could be on fire and he would trust some poll from amnesty that it was not on fire

[Alan]

I assume from your post that you didn't read up on survey sample sizes and still don't know shit about statistics. No surprise there. Don't let facts get in the way of your hate.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

seems like austria is gonna get a far right wing, chem-trail believing, hate mongering president tomorrow. and he is gonna solve the refugee problem once and for all, just as he promised. 100% sure about that.

i cant believe that so many people here actually fall for that bullshit.

[Monty Burns]

I assume from your post that you didn't read up on survey sample sizes and still don't know shit about statistics. No surprise there. Don't let facts get in the way of your hate.

Like I said . You believe your biased study by Amnesty that people answered anonymous . I wonder how many of those people who said they would allow refugees to live with them have a refugee living with them . Im guessing 0.00000001%

Ill believe how people are voting and the governments are acting . Im sure Right wing politicians are winning elections cause people want more refugees . 

[Alan]

your biased study by Amnesty

How is it biased?

that people answered anonymous

Ummm, no shit. It's a survey.

[Alan]

seems like austria is gonna get a far right wing, chem-trail believing, hate mongering president tomorrow. and he is gonna solve the refugee problem once and for all, just as he promised. 100% sure about that.

i cant believe that so many people here actually fall for that bullshit.

People are stupid and make decisions based on emotions rather than facts. But I hope they get it together tomorrow and get out and vote against this asshole.

[Monty Burns]

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your biased study by Amnesty

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How is it biased?

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that people answered anonymous

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Ummm, no shit. It's a survey.

This just in , ISIS polls themselves and find that they are the savoirs of the world and totaly not evil .  Recep Tayyip Erdoğan polls the world and finds hes the best leader Turkey has ever had , and is the best leader the world has ever seen

A poll about hamas would have very different results in Europe , Israel and Palestine . Specialy if its paid by Hamas 

You admit that surveys are not the truth yet you cant find a reason for Amnesty to pay for a survey that backs what Amnesty wants ?

Instead of looking at stupid polls from Amnesty , look at how people are voting , how governments are acting . How much more power the far right and the right have gained . How they are grabbing power in Europe . The rise in violence against refugees . How more and more countries are closing the boarder

Yet with all that evidence you choose to believe in some poll that backs what you believe in


And people who are anonymous can say any shit they want without any consequentness . Just look at slap . You ask some random person on the streets sure they would take in 5 puppies , 5 cats , 5 refugees and 5 orphans . But thats not what happens in real life

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Ill believe how people are voting and the governments are acting . Im sure Right wing politicians are winning elections cause people want more refugees . 

no. they are winning elections because they claim to have simple solutions for pretty complicated problems. none of the ideas that they have here would work. but they dont even have to prove it, because they arent in the position to do so. so they lie and lie and lie, and people believe it. at some point they get enough votes to actually matter, and then the same thing happens as it did 10 years ago here: they fail at every single thing, grab as much money as they can for themselves and their friends and leave a country in debt behind. just to wait 10 more years to do it all over again.