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[Slimeone]

What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

[EDGEDLRD]

NB have the best cupsole models right now IMO. The Tyshawn 2 is incredible also. If the Dunk is too puffy for you. More flexible toe right out of the box. Can't wait for the suede.

[CronsX]

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What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

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My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

Sounds very much like insertional achilles tendonitis to me. Worse in the morning, gets better with movement, worse when taking breaks or ending sessions.
My pain is also right at the base of the heel, where the Achilles tendon meets the heel. Had nothing to do with Bursitis.
I've had shock wave therapy twice and it still keeps getting inflamed.
I used FP Insoles in most of my shoes and they made it so much worse for me, will never ever buy that shit again.
Also shoes without a heel drop or shitty insoles (aka New Balance, Nike, Converse etc.) dont work anymore since the Achilles tendon is shortened and needs more support.

Take a look at Ben's video, helped me a lot.

[Slimeone]

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What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

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My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

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Sounds very much like insertional achilles tendonitis to me. Worse in the morning, gets better with movement, worse when taking breaks or ending sessions.
My pain is also right at the base of the heel, where the Achilles tendon meets the heel. Had nothing to do with Bursitis.
I've had shock wave therapy twice and it still keeps getting inflamed.
I used FP Insoles in most of my shoes and they made it so much worse for me, will never ever buy that shit again.
Also shoes without a heel drop or shitty insoles (aka New Balance, Nike, Converse etc.) dont work anymore since the Achilles tendon is shortened and needs more support.

Take a look at Ben's video, helped me a lot.

Interesting. I think I may have watched that a while back but I will watch it again. I have previously had a fairly severe partial achilles rupture on the same side which took over a year to fully resolve so this could be linked. I really need to see a Doctor about it I guess. I should be able to get 5 free physio sessions. For now using ice and heat quite aggressively after a session seems to keep it under control.

[BeachChicken]

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What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

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My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

This is where mine hurt- right where the top of a shoe collar would be. It's not from any of the causes people here posted. It's not uncommon for people that wear really tight fitting shoes for cycling, climbing, or ski boots. Happens if you have a heel that looks like Haglund's deformity even if you don't have it. What helped was switching shoe brands and doing some basic PT to rehab it and it hasn't flared up since.

[Slimeone]

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What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

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My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

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This is where mine hurt- right where the top of a shoe collar would be. It's not from any of the causes people here posted. It's not uncommon for people that wear really tight fitting shoes for cycling, climbing, or ski boots. Happens if you have a heel that looks like Haglund's deformity even if you don't have it. What helped was switching shoe brands and doing some basic PT to rehab it and it hasn't flared up since.

That's interesting. My heels do stick out a lot and they often wear holes in the spot where they touch the inside of the shoe. Oddly I have never had this issue before I started wearing the 1010s, although this timing also corresponds with me skating more frequently than before, so maybe it is also from just skating more often and this was too much for my feet.

[BeachChicken]

Mine was 100% caused by shoes from another sport and also some skate shoes that were highs and kinda hugged the curve of the heel and ankle

[CronsX]

When it is at the top where a shoe collar would sit it is a "normal" achilles tendinopathy.
If the pain sits right at the back of the heel, it is insertional achilles tendinopathy.
Two very different things, especially when doing excercises!
Better watch Ben's video if the pain sits right at the ankle and not on collar height.

[scab]

To piggyback off of the foot pain talk: Can some of y'all NB# disciples tell me how the 1010 fits in the forefoot area compared to the 808? I started skating the 808 to give a lingering mid food bruise the best possible protection, but they were way too tight around the forefoot, and while the bruise healed completely I now have a bunch of pretty painful corns. So basically what I'm looking for is a very protective shoe with a wider forefoot. Should I try the 1010s?

[CronsX]

To piggyback off of the foot pain talk: Can some of y'all NB# disciples tell me how the 1010 fits in the forefoot area compared to the 808? I started skating the 808 to give a lingering mid food bruise the best possible protection, but they were way too tight around the forefoot, and while the bruise healed completely I now have a bunch of pretty painful corns. So basically what I'm looking for is a very protective shoe with a wider forefoot. Should I try the 1010s?

A friend of mine always complains about how tight NB shoes are on arche and front. He skates the 1010.
I skated 1010s for a while too and i also think they're pretty tight all around.

My personal preference when it comes to NB are the 600s. They feel and fit much better than the 1010 and 808.
But i think NB is pretty much overhyped right now especially on older skaters cause of Reynolds.
Dont think the (skate) shoes are that great, the insoles are pretty bad etc.
Also can't recommend them for wider feet but it seems they have several wide options in other countries, just not in Germany.

Widest toe box i ever skated was Converse AS-1 and Fastbreaks, but the insole is even worse. But since this thread is NB centric you should search the "absolute widest toe box" thread

[scab]

^Thanks for the insights!

I've never had issues with shoes being to narrow in the forefoot before the 808, which is why I asked specifically in this thread. While the fit doesn't work for me I've come to appreciate the stiff sole very much and would like to keep skating shoes that offer good protection in that regard. From what I've read on here the sole on the 1010 isn't as rigid, but still more protective than almost all other cupsoles currently available. If the forefoot area is even just a little wider than the 808s it might be a good middle ground for me. For reference: I'm currently skating the Rowan 2 and the fit is much better, but I'm not happy with the level of protection. (I'm also thankful for all other recommendations, NB# or otherwise.)

[CronsX]

^Thanks for the insights!

I've never had issues with shoes being to narrow in the forefoot before the 808, which is why I asked specifically in this thread. While the fit doesn't work for me I've come to appreciate the stiff sole very much and would like to keep skating shoes that offer good protection in that regard. From what I've read on here the sole on the 1010 isn't as rigid, but still more protective than almost all other cupsoles currently available. If the forefoot area is even just a little wider than the 808s it might be a good middle ground for me. For reference: I'm currently skating the Rowan 2 and the fit is much better, but I'm not happy with the level of protection. (I'm also thankful for all other recommendations, NB# or otherwise.)

Can confirm that the 1010 is pretty comfortable upperwise. The sole is not as "hard" as the 808.
But it is still a pretty tight shoe in my opinion and i also get a little heel slip in them.
So much that sometimes my feet and achilles tendon felt "tired" after skating in them. I think the 808 and the 1010 feel the same in the forefoot, but i skated the 808 only several times before passing them on so someone else can confirm that maybe.

The sizing on NB is horrible for me (same for Adidas, Cons etc.). US11 is a tad too small while 11.5 is too roomy lenghtwise.
Also skated the Rowan 2 all Winter cause that shoe somehow holds my foot in the perfect position for my achilles tendon to not flare up. Shoe was great but i also wasn't happy with the level of comfort and protection.
Stepped away from Vans after the AVE2 sock bullshit.

As someone mentioned here already the perfect shoe (from NB) would be something a little beefier than the 600 (or a bit less beefy 1010/ 808) in my opinion.
Would skate the 600 exclusively if NB would make better insoles.
At least more padding in the heel...

[Slimeone]

To piggyback off of the foot pain talk: Can some of y'all NB# disciples tell me how the 1010 fits in the forefoot area compared to the 808? I started skating the 808 to give a lingering mid food bruise the best possible protection, but they were way too tight around the forefoot, and while the bruise healed completely I now have a bunch of pretty painful corns. So basically what I'm looking for is a very protective shoe with a wider forefoot. Should I try the 1010s?

As others have said I would also agree that the 1010 is quite tight around the forefoot and it's a bit longer in the toes than usual. It's a fairly strange shape and not really useful for my feet because it's simultaneously tight and sloppy! But maybe some feet will love it.

[scab]

Thanks, guys. My quest for the perfect shoe continues.

[rikki]

Thanks, guys. My quest for the perfect shoe continues.

Have you tried the 480? Subjectively I'd say it's right there in between the 808 and the 600 in terms of protection. I love the 600 and the 808 is way too stiff for me. The 480 is bordering on too bulky for my taste, but I love lighter shoes with lotsa boardfeel. For peeps looking for more beef in a shoe than e.g. the 600, I'd say the 480 can be a great option.

[fakiefs180]

I just want to find a better insole for the NB#600
Maybe a flat insole would be better since the 600 already has built in arch support?

I know there is the insoles thread but maybe someone here have already found a solution.

Btw, thanks for all the plantar fasciitis tips and experiences ya all. Highly appreciated.

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Thanks, guys. My quest for the perfect shoe continues.

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Have you tried the 480? Subjectively I'd say it's right there in between the 808 and the 600 in terms of protection. I love the 600 and the 808 is way too stiff for me. The 480 is bordering on too bulky for my taste, but I love lighter shoes with lotsa boardfeel. For peeps looking for more beef in a shoe than e.g. the 600, I'd say the 480 can be a great option.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to look into that model. The price tag had thrown me off thus far (I don't care about colorways and usually get shoes on sale, which the 480s never are), but if it fits me, it might be worth paying full price.

[CronsX]

The 480 doesn't work for my condition.
Same for Dunks and all the shoes having that "dunk shape".
I put my feet in those shoes and after 5 steps my heel is hurting.
Maybe it's the bad insole, or no heel drop, i don't know.

Also i hate shoes without tongue straps. The 600 is missing those too, sadly.

Bought a couple of Remind medic impact insoles yesterday on a whim.
I've made much better experiences with Remind than FP (FP insoles made my condition extremely worse).
If I don't forget, I will report whether the combination with the 600 feels good.

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

Patiently waiting for new colorway pics or even a silhouette of the reynolds shoe.

[Atiba Applebum]

Patiently waiting for new colorway pics or even a silhouette of the reynolds shoe.

I bet we won’t get a sniff of that until January.   The NB guys on here made it seem like that’s going to be pretty locked down.   Nike seems like the only one that really has their plans on display months/year in advance

[MetalAnkleMan]

Would be fun to draw up what we think Reynolds shoe will look like and see if we get close it all haha

[BeachChicken]

I just want to find a better insole for the NB#600
Maybe a flat insole would be better since the 600 already has built in arch support?

I know there is the insoles thread but maybe someone here have already found a solution.

Btw, thanks for all the plantar fasciitis tips and experiences ya all. Highly appreciated.

I use Superfeet Run Comfort or Adapt Run Max in my 600

[rothdigga]

Would be fun to draw up what we think Reynolds shoe will look like and see if we get close it all haha

I would like to see what you guys think it'll be vs what I know it actually is also...rampant speculation!!!

[Atiba Applebum]

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Would be fun to draw up what we think Reynolds shoe will look like and see if we get close it all haha

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I would like to see what you guys think it'll be vs what I know it actually is also...rampant speculation!!!

A midpoint between the 600 and 1010 but likely in the 900s

[Willie]

Can confirm that the 1010 is pretty comfortable upperwise. The sole is not as "hard" as the 808.
But it is still a pretty tight shoe in my opinion and i also get a little heel slip in them.

Started skating a pair of 1010s I bought a while back and the heel slip is kind of awful unless you lace them up tightly. Those stupid pads near the the Achilles do the opposite as intended for heel lock. The Busenitz ADV had the same bullshit, same result.

The 1010 isn’t a bad shoe but it’s weird. Decent heel padding, forefoot not great. Puffy but feels smaller than the 913 somehow. Snug fit but bad heel lift. A simple Dr Schol’s insole might help overall comfort - the included ortholite is trash.

[seabassbooster]

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What I've learned from my ongoing plantar fasciitis journey. The hamstrings from most people are too tight due to things like sitting at work for example. This can cause pain in knees, ankles, buttcheeks, in the groin area or in the achilles area and said plantar fasciitis. Maybe that could be a cause for you pals.

I have pain in all of these areas and some hamstring stretches and some yoga poses help a lot on most days.

Sorry I don't want to come across as Mister know it all, it's just something I learned the last months. Maybe it can help someone.

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My pain is specifically at the back of the heel, not underneath, and doesn't extend to the achilles. I initially thought it was a heel bruise but it doesn't behave like a bruise. Hurts more in the morning or when I start a session but once warmed up it feels fine, but after a big session I know it's going to get worse the next day. Anyway it seems to be the bursa which are fluid filled sacs  at the back of the heel. I had to stop wearing the 1010s for now and I'm back on DCs. I might try returning to the 1010s once this issue resolves itself.

yo i hope this video is a lot of help. it sounds like you have the same problem i did. i had pain at the very back of my right heel, not underneath. during long car rides it would hurt since i’m pivoting it right on the heel to press on the gas and brakes. it’d hurt immediately when i’d wake up, a little bit of walking around would help, but it’d hurt again after heavy sessions of walking or skating. i lounged around for a whole week or two doing these exercises NONSTOP. hang around, watch tv, do it standing up, whatever, as long as you do it, you will be healed. if i remember correctly i could still feel it when i returned to skating but the pain was non existent, and was completely gone by the next week where i was solely skating.
https://youtu.be/3wzLu0pVgIY?si=gAdkauDwmg9D44Yy

[tzhangdox]

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Can confirm that the 1010 is pretty comfortable upperwise. The sole is not as "hard" as the 808.
But it is still a pretty tight shoe in my opinion and i also get a little heel slip in them.

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Started skating a pair of 1010s I bought a while back and the heel slip is kind of awful unless you lace them up tightly. Those stupid pads near the the Achilles do the opposite as intended for heel lock. The Busenitz ADV had the same bullshit, same result.

The 1010 isn’t a bad shoe but it’s weird. Decent heel padding, forefoot not great. Puffy but feels smaller than the 913 somehow. Snug fit but bad heel lift. A simple Dr Schol’s insole might help overall comfort - the included ortholite is trash.

I hear a lot of people get heel lift from the 1010s because of the pods. Thats never been the case for me. Its probably the one shoe I get the absolute least heel lift and best snug, locked in fit from. And I get heel lift from many other shoes with pods too.

Well actually I get heel lift maybe first session, two at most, then it goes away for the rest of the shoes life.

Because of the midsole, I actually like the stock insole too. The wedge combined with the midsole is the perfect amount of arch support for me. Only shoe I where don't swap out the insole.

Not shilling for them even though they're my favourite shoe besides Jordan 1 + new superfeet insoles. Everybodys foot is built super different so what works perfect for me and some might be horrible for many others as evidenced in this forum with strong opinions going both ways

[Berky]

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Would be fun to draw up what we think Reynolds shoe will look like and see if we get close it all haha

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I would like to see what you guys think it'll be vs what I know it actually is also...rampant speculation!!!

im thinking in the 900’s as well. Not too techy looking, but plenty of tech in the shoe

[Scarecrow Radio]

1010's fit me perfect .5 size down, I got 6 pairs of the mfers

[one80]

huge fan of the 1010 as someone with wide feet and glass ankles. i do not get the heel slip i’ve read about on here, if anything my heels are locked in. not exactly choking the dawgs but tied to the top eyelet. i do run them .5 size up and they work great for me