Gave my 808 Lites a good full sesh after spending a few days just walking in them to the store such. I sized up 1 half size (12 from 11.5) and the fit is good without my foot slopping around the footbed. I was worried about finding the flick, but that was assuaged pretty fast. Tres worked, kick flips worked, and I even did my requisite amount of impossibles. Landed primo a few times on things and felt fine after, so the cushion/rigidity of the shoe worked. Looking down at my feet in them passed the eye test, too. Good shoe!