Yeah the Biltmore was actually intended to be the Wenning 2 but things fell apart with Wenning before they released it so it became a team shoe. Same sole as the first Wenning. I had a sample pair of them for a super long time that I was trying to sell but no one was biting so almost ended up skating them but then someone bought them. Felt like it would be a good shoe to skate still today. Here's the pair that I had:
Probably better to skate by today's standards than the Howard 2, but obviously don't look as good. And yeah those Howards in the Shanahan post are definitely vintage, not new.
In other news I did hear rumours that Shanahan will be getting a pro shoe but I can't really confirm because our shop doesn't carry DC. If he is though it's way overdue.