Venture 2020

[rikki]

I'll try some Venture's with cast then It might be the thing that fixes my issues with V-Hollows heftyness. I was under the impression that casts were 55mm tall so... Which is why I got the V-Hollows. And also because they were on sale.

Thanks guys!

Define heftiness in this case? The wb effect is not as drastic as the Illuminati wants you to believe.

[Sedition]

I'll try some Venture's with cast then It might be the thing that fixes my issues with V-Hollows heftyness. I was under the impression that casts were 55mm tall so... Which is why I got the V-Hollows. And also because they were on sale.

Thanks guys!

I measured height my cast and forged when they came. Forged were about a 1mm lower. Had 53mm-ish for cast, and 52mm-ish for forged.

[Vintagebody]

Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh

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Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh

this isn’t really here or there, but for me, ventures can feel ‘larger’ than their same sized indy counterparts. this only bothers me, when i’m skating a larger setup, that is already too big for me. maybe this is all bs in my head. when folks around me went from 5.0 lo’s and 7.5-7.75s, in the early early ish 2000s, to 8s, most went with indy 139s.
anyways, carry on.

[Sedition]

Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh

All of this is far too…relatable.

[rocklobster]

I know we say stock is boss but I got a touch of bushing madness setting in - thinking if I should go medium hard 92a (Indy blue) or just tighten my kingpin a little. My red stock bushings are fully broken in and cracked in some areas, still fully functional.

A friend tried my board and noticed my truck would slant to 1 side occasionally before popping. It's helpful for some tricks like FS Flips but on tricks I'm less confident on (BS Flips / 360 flips) I'm more likely to whiff and ghost pop. I noticed for kickflips I have to pressure directly down and be perfectly balanced before popping, but my kickflips are all or nothing. Either knee height and caught nicely, or flopping barely off the ground, nothing in between like a controlled shin high one. Also I can't fakie flip without almost credit carding myself, fakie FS flip is fine.

I'm probably overthinking this.

[LebowskisRug]

When you fakie flip push your popping foot forward harder and delay the flick. My fakie flips are my best flip trick and I push my foot almost like a >. Back foot covering the first 2 bolts and a bit more towards the middle and basically fakie ollie timing and flicking when the rear foot is on its way up.

So ya, think about the trick more than your trucks. I'm definitely not the one to talk, but finally coming around the madness corner.

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fakie frontside, and frontside flips, are really difficult for me. backside flips too. shit.

i used to feel very confident with fakie flips. one of the few tricks i’d be genuinely surprised/possibly upset if i didn’t land it. now, everything is a hope and a prayer.
i like the trick tip.

[rocklobster]

When you fakie flip push your popping foot forward harder and delay the flick. My fakie flips are my best flip trick and I push my foot almost like a >. Back foot covering the first 2 bolts and a bit more towards the middle and basically fakie ollie timing and flicking when the rear foot is on its way up.

So ya, think about the trick more than your trucks. I'm definitely not the one to talk, but finally coming around the madness corner.

Yeah it was more the fakie flips that got me thinking about bushing hardness, I'll do the rational thing and tighten up a 1/4 turn before I decide to indulge in bushing madness.

[LebowskisRug]

I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle

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I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle

my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.

[munchbox]

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I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle

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nollie flips are still cool

my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.

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I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle

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nollie flips are still cool

my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.

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ha, true. my fault there.
what i was trying to say, is i first learned them, in (aging myself here) 1994. i think. i felt current.
being old, i think about this kind of crap. in truth, people had been doing nollie flips for years, i wasn’t current.

[PuffinMuffin]

Yo a humble request. If anyone got the dlx lowering kit and didn't enjoy it plz send it to me.

My soul is dying rn. Idk if I can go back.

I was feeling the same. Ground the fuck out of my nuts this morning, they're now ~2.5mm shorter so my trucks can be really loose without ordering the Venture low bushings to faraway lands. Cost €0. Trashed the metal file, but I stole that when I was working for Nestle. Haha, fuck you Nestle, I can not be doxxed.

[LebowskisRug]

For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height

[PuffinMuffin]

For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height

It's where I got the idea. Unfortunately, they're not available for a reasonable price in Europe.

[Mixed Bag]

“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.

[LebowskisRug]

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For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height

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It's where I got the idea. Unfortunately, they're not available for a reasonable price in Europe.

Well, I'll trade you dozens of low profile lock nuts for your healthcare and rail systems.

[Xen]

“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.

Thing is trucks already use them. These are 'thin' by other industry standards, not ours. The only thinner ones I've been able to find are the Ti ones (King and axle); they're light and thin, but if you fux with your trux a lot, the [hard] nylon they use becomes useless in less time than a regular counterpart.

[FrenchSkater]

Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

[rocklobster]

Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same logic with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.

[munchbox]

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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.

seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though

[j....soy.....]

I know it's not what you want...but don't underestimate the whiffed kickfilp of a venture high...not ideal...but it works...

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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.

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seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though

@french

i agree with these folks, j.soy too.

now i’ll talk about me, because that’s what i like to do.
i can kickflip on almost every skateboard, eventually. a fair amount of them i’ll kickflip on sooner/better/etc than my own board. it is maddening.
i don’t have good kickflips, but i can do them, so the setup really doesn’t matter.
kickflips on lower trucks, work much much much more consistently for me. i can get higher freak wave kickflips with taller trucks/wheels, and the kickflips i do on lo’s can be ‘muffled’/less …..lofted (please allow me this indulgent word choice, none of my shit is going high).

the shortened version:

if you can kickflip, you will, the gear doesn’t matter.
it is easier for me to kickflip on venture lo’s and thunder 147s, and shorter/narrower boards.

hopefully you are able to find some time to skate, some peace of mind.

[Uncle Flea]

It's the slow turn. That's why it feels taller than Indys' truck.

I love tall dumpy loose trucks. I've gotten used to my 93a 58mm rat bones 2 though the wheel is deadly on morning dew and when it's just sprinkling out.

Zero traction in damp conditions.

I'll continue in a wheel thread....

[Xen]

It's the slow turn. That's why it feels taller than Indys' truck.

I love tall dumpy loose trucks. I've gotten used to my 93a 58mm rat bones 2 though the wheel is deadly on morning dew and when it's just sprinkling out.

Zero traction in damp conditions.

I'll continue in a wheel thread....

I think dumpy is the best description yet, really spot on.

[rikki]

Just wanted to say that I feel AWAKE.

Having switched to Ventures (currently on 5.6 Hi V-Lights, 8.125 deck, 14.25 wb) has done good things to my skating. I feel like I'm getting old stuff back (had an aeon-long break and started again a couple of years ago) and learning new stuff / personal NBDs faster than before, especially on street. I don't if this is just a coincidence with my progress level in general, but it sure feels like the overall solid feel of the trucks have unlocked something that other trucks haven't been able to, at least not yet. Feels good.

[rocklobster]

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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.

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seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though

[close]

@french

i agree with these folks, j.soy too.

now i’ll talk about me, because that’s what i like to do.
i can kickflip on almost every skateboard, eventually. a fair amount of them i’ll kickflip on sooner/better/etc than my own board. it is maddening.
i don’t have good kickflips, but i can do them, so the setup really doesn’t matter.
kickflips on lower trucks, work much much much more consistently for me. i can get higher freak wave kickflips with taller trucks/wheels, and the kickflips i do on lo’s can be ‘muffled’/less …..lofted (please allow me this indulgent word choice, none of my shit is going high).

the shortened version:

if you can kickflip, you will, the gear doesn’t matter.
it is easier for me to kickflip on venture lo’s and thunder 147s, and shorter/narrower boards.

hopefully you are able to find some time to skate, some peace of mind.

If you got the trick, then you can do it on whatever setup you're riding, adaptation is part of skateboarding. Don't kid yourself that 1 setup or piece of gear will address the skill gap.

The itch to try something new will always be there, but sticking to what you know works for you trumps changing things up hoping it will unlock new stuff for you. It's how I've managed to avoid stocking decks I may be itching to try but know I won't like. We retrospectively overestimate our abilities especially as we get older, but not losing tricks or not doing tricks as high is part of being an older skater.

I've got so much nostalgia for the 5.2 V-Hollow LOs even though I've been riding the 5.8 TI for so long, I'm sure I'd hate my first few sessions back on them.

[Badandoldskater]

5.6 v lights comes in standard height and low ? Or do 5.6 not come in lows?

[Xen]

No 5.6 in lows, sadly.