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Title: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hatechild on May 13, 2011, 04:18:13 PM
Pretty much a done deal...just waiting for his Lakai contract to end.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 13, 2011, 04:19:22 PM
Supposed to be by Holidays.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Made In China on May 13, 2011, 04:35:45 PM
Fuck, DC is stacking their team. Now if they start making better shoes instead of that shit they call skate shoes.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: No Thanks. on May 13, 2011, 04:45:16 PM
No surprises here.  I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well.  So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year.  The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: mooraga on May 13, 2011, 05:12:04 PM
No surprises here.  I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well.  So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year.  The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.

There last good shoes I remeber where the linx and some early kalis models, since then its been a straight downfall as materials, skateability and design
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: SFblah on May 13, 2011, 06:00:24 PM
I could see any of the Sole Tech guys going. Been hearing they are having some major money issues.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: jhskates84 on May 13, 2011, 06:27:22 PM
No surprises here.  I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well.  So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year.  The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.

I'm pretty sure Lakai is fully under Crailtap distribution now...  eggxactly why DC produced a flag as their latest banner!  They're trying to emphasize on how dominant they are within the skate world by breaching other team riders ha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: svilleantigo on May 13, 2011, 06:30:10 PM
Yep, still won't buy em
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BraveUlysses on May 13, 2011, 06:34:17 PM
DC getting all of these people to show how dominant they are reminds me of the Cold War.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on May 13, 2011, 07:13:57 PM
i don't think there is any worse shoes to skate in than lakai.  i really like the company but every pair i had was pretty shit.   good for him.  get that cash.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Russel Crowe on May 13, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
DC is still lame
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Matty T on May 13, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
Okay.  I have no choice but to put up with Nike, Cons, and Adidas making every new kid that drops a video part look like they're wearing a uniform.  At least the Janoskis, CVO's and Campus are easy on the eyes.  But god damn DC has produced eye sores for so long that it makes Chris Cole look like he picks up his shit from the discount shoe wall at Active.  If you're gonna make something ubiquitous, at least make it attractive.  Quit spending your money on god damned pros that don't fit your aesthetic and put some money into making a shoe that doesn't make my penis retract.  Oh. And the only noteworthy DC ever did after its Love Park glory days was actually making me NOT want to buy PJ Ladd's pro model.  So, in the very worst sense possible, they have succeeded at a challenge previously thought impossible. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Swanson on May 13, 2011, 08:46:41 PM
god skateboarding is turning into a fucking joke... like a god damn government...
buying out all the money makers so in the future you have no choice but to support shit
what a fucking joke this year of sponsorship has been... jesus fucking christ fucking stupid
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: kellen on May 13, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
Don't really care;  I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: annoyedwithskating on May 13, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
i almost bought some dcs from ross today, they were actually pretty cool, 30 bucks too. but i didnt think they would skate well.
but yeah, dc blows
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: o JayCub o on May 13, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chipper on May 13, 2011, 09:43:12 PM
Don't really care;  I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.

Oh how I miss those.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: VictoriousOG on May 13, 2011, 09:56:52 PM
I thought this was just a rumor because they mixed up Nick Dompierre with Mike Mo.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on May 13, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
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No surprises here.  I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well.  So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year.  The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.
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There last good shoes I remeber where the linx and some early kalis models, since then its been a straight downfall as materials, skateability and design

The Tonik S is a good selling shoe
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on May 14, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
lol.... you guys are funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chipper on May 14, 2011, 02:33:49 AM
lol.... you guys are funny.  ;D

Lynx come back?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: thepman on May 14, 2011, 03:06:28 AM
i think you could make any thread right now claiming any pro skater to be on DC and people will believe it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sprayTAN101 on May 14, 2011, 03:32:31 AM
I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.

if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Toivo on May 14, 2011, 03:47:45 AM
Adidas still has the best skate team and the best skate shoe.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: asakusa75 on May 14, 2011, 04:23:23 AM
Adidas still has the best skate team and the best skate shoe.
This.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: tobal on May 14, 2011, 04:52:24 AM
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Adidas still has the best skate team and the best skate shoe.
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This.

Yes ! And K SWISS ! And fuck skateboard co. ! 

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Comon...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Sleazy on May 14, 2011, 04:58:35 AM
he seems like a perfect fit to me
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: vitunvesa on May 14, 2011, 05:34:00 AM
(http://image.rakuten.co.jp/kinetics-tokyo/cabinet/00830346/dc-tonik630.jpg)

you guys dont know what you're talking 'bout. try these
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on May 14, 2011, 05:43:36 AM
i appreciate that they clearly state that this is a so called "shoe".
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Drew on May 14, 2011, 05:47:49 AM
I don't get all the dc hate for trying to reinvent it's image... By stacking an all star team they are going to be able to sell more shoes (especially to kids) ... And if someone gets offered more money to skate for dc then good for them...
And as for the plastic looking non skate shoes and general douche bags who wear dc, well if it means they can make money to pay pros then so be it ... And you can just ignore douche bags, it's not that difficult... (also vans is very guilty of making plastic shoes... Especially here in japan...)
I can understand the hate for shoe quality though... 5yrs ago the quality of their shoes was terrible.. Especially the soles... but recently I've heard that it has gotten better... A couple of my friends in oz and japan ride for dc and have said good things...

But if your going to hate on shoes for their quality then you should also hate equally... Lakai manchesters are great to skate in for a few sessions but then they turn into giant bags of crap (i stopped wearing them because of this... Please make better shoes lakai) and vans... I love to skate in vans but I normally put holes in a pair in a day or two (my last pair of TNT5s lasted 5days which was surprising being half canvas an all)...

But whatever... I still think dc is in for a hard fight to get back to it's glory days of the late 90's... But at least they are trying...


And if you don't like the shoes then you can simply not buy them...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: brokenheadphone on May 14, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
I've been skating a pair of newer DCs for a bit.  The uppers are fine, but the DGT sole has the soft rubber right in the spot where I (and many skaters) wear down soles the most. If they could just do a better job on the soles they'd have something fairly close to their 90s shoes IMHO.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: o JayCub o on May 14, 2011, 01:38:43 PM
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I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.
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if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??

Honestly, I usually buy whatever skate shoes I can find cheap, whether its online or I can get a good deal at my not so local shop. I wont buy just any shoe. I generally prefer shoes, like the DC Tonik, Fallen Forte, vans chukka lows, and Ive had 2 pairs of Janoskis that I really liked also. No I probably wouldnt have bought the Toniks if  they were full price but that goes for the same with any shoe. I hardly ever buy a shoe for full price, but after skating  the toniks I would definitely choose them over chukka lows, or the fallen fortes, thats  for sure. Even though all 3 of them pretty much skate the same, the toniks are holding  up a lot better then the other two.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: MyUserName on May 14, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
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I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.
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if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??
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Honestly, I usually buy whatever skate shoes I can find cheap, whether its online or I can get a good deal at my not so local shop. I wont buy just any shoe. I generally prefer shoes, like the DC Tonik, Fallen Forte, vans chukka lows, and Ive had 2 pairs of Janoskis that I really liked also. No I probably wouldnt have bought the Toniks if  they were full price but that goes for the same with any shoe. I hardly ever buy a shoe for full price, but after skating  the toniks I would definitely choose them over chukka lows, or the fallen fortes, thats  for sure. Even though all 3 of them pretty much skate the same, the toniks are holding  up a lot better then the other two.

I personally prefer sandals when I skate.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: 1978 on May 14, 2011, 03:31:42 PM
Don't really care;?  I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: svilleantigo on May 14, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
But if your going to hate on shoes for their quality then you should also hate equally... Lakai manchesters are great to skate in for a few sessions but then they turn into giant bags of crap (i stopped wearing them because of this... Please make better shoes lakai)

Yep, I just blew through a pair in a ridiculously short time as well.. I've been skating in Lakais for years, this is only a single case, but it's definitely a step back.

Would still rather skate em than DCs though. If they wanna pay pros a shitton of cash, that's a-ok, no one's suffering from it..
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Omamori on May 14, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
I usually don't care about sponsor changes, but I though Mike was a good fit on Lakai.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: superslopp on May 14, 2011, 10:20:35 PM
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: juja on May 15, 2011, 01:26:50 AM
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I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.
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if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??
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Honestly, I usually buy whatever skate shoes I can find cheap, whether its online or I can get a good deal at my not so local shop. I wont buy just any shoe. I generally prefer shoes, like the DC Tonik, Fallen Forte, vans chukka lows, and Ive had 2 pairs of Janoskis that I really liked also. No I probably wouldnt have bought the Toniks if  they were full price but that goes for the same with any shoe. I hardly ever buy a shoe for full price, but after skating  the toniks I would definitely choose them over chukka lows, or the fallen fortes, thats  for sure. Even though all 3 of them pretty much skate the same, the toniks are holding  up a lot better then the other two.
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I personally prefer sandals when I skate.
me too
(http://stylefrizz.com/img/tougher-than-leather-sandal-skateboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Spike Hawke on May 15, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
last pair of "skate" shoes I had from DC felt like I had two huge dog turds stuck to my feet. Heel bruise city. Never again
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LIVEfromthe3one5 on May 15, 2011, 10:45:24 PM
Don't really care;  I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.

I miss those damn shoes so much, and that's pretty much the same time I stopped rocking DC's as well
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: finknoos on May 16, 2011, 01:55:35 AM
i saw my friend skating the tonics and said something like "skating in DC's hey?"

to which he said "yeah man i dont normally skate dcs but these are a really sick shoe, might stock up on them"

saw him the next week and he said "dude these shoes are nice at first but now they fucking hurt"

no DC for me thanks
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Roach maynE on May 16, 2011, 09:21:02 AM
i hope he doesn't get on DC
i don't think he would
he fits in on lakai really well and is already making plenty of money
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Seff Bauers on May 16, 2011, 11:06:44 AM
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Don't really care;  I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
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Oh how I miss those.

I'm pretty sure that's the only shoe they ever made that was descent...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: augustmoon on May 16, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
heard some whispers about dude getting kicked off of everything over this
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: McBrandt on May 16, 2011, 02:17:55 PM
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding

That's how I felt during the late 90s warm-up pants era.

Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: goofy b00ts on May 16, 2011, 08:57:01 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: chillout on May 16, 2011, 09:09:47 PM
great post. too bad vans is just as bad as dc
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: nickvicII on May 16, 2011, 10:33:43 PM
Fuck skateboarding, Get money.  This has been the anthem leading up to this.  This industry is so backwards.  In a thread hating on DC (owned by a surf company), you have countless kooks praising ADIDAS, NIKE, and CONS.  You shit heads already ruined skateboarding.   Keep giving high fives to your sellout friends,  keep shopping at Zumies and Active.   Let them ruin the industry already so we can have it back. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Pavementi on May 17, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/originaldave77/Bill-Lumbergh.png)
Can somebody run a TPS report and find out how many times "ruined skateboarding" comes up in the forums?

Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: gatchaman on May 17, 2011, 01:24:48 AM
...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BitchSlap on October 16, 2011, 12:28:39 PM
Hmmmmm, i smell a "DC Video 2" in the works....
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: TrainWreck on October 16, 2011, 12:54:57 PM
Hmmmmm, i smell a "DC Video 2" in the works....

well, it is about time ! cole, miller, mo !!!!!
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Monty Burns on October 16, 2011, 01:51:44 PM
...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there

Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: InternetDaddy on October 16, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
^ I've already promised myself a pair of Kalis' next pro shoe, whenever it comes out.

god skateboarding is turning into a fucking joke... like a god damn government...
buying out all the money makers so in the future you have no choice but to support shit
what a fucking joke this year of sponsorship has been... jesus fucking christ fucking stupid
HOLY SHIT BRO SO EDGY  ::)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Mat on October 16, 2011, 02:14:34 PM
No surprises here.  I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well.  So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year.  The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.

Having all these riders will increase their sales dramatically, its business, and when you have top quality pros endorsing products that they are seen wearing while they are ripping, people are going to buy them. Plain and simple. thats how it works.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 16, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude

dont confuse "longest lasting" with "best".
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on October 16, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Dudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?

And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: dipsteeze on October 16, 2011, 02:48:37 PM
Ryan Gallant got kicked off because he didnt wanna skate a mini ramp in the middle of a motocross demo, told them to fuck off, got the boot, Who knows what happened with pj, probably nothing, thats why they kicked him off haha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: TheDanDan on October 16, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
If they're good enough for Wes Kremer they're good enough for me.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Extremely Sorry on October 16, 2011, 03:10:33 PM
DC's super suede material holds up well, but the sole always really shitty. The only beef I have with DC is that they are slowly going to run the core companys into the dumps...sad face...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: eames1 on October 16, 2011, 03:38:43 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude

Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Twilight Zone on October 16, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
woah no more shoes for Kalis? FUCK DC
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Avicci on October 16, 2011, 04:44:27 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.

Kalis just said he had a new shoe coming out...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: ekayallday on October 16, 2011, 06:16:46 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
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Kalis just said he had a new shoe coming out...

I think he means, buy kalis but not feed dc if you want to support kalis
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: few123456789 on October 16, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
who cares. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on October 16, 2011, 08:40:27 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
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Kalis just said he had a new shoe coming out...

3:24
DC SHOES: KALIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUEVGVhzVCA#ws)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: left knee cap on October 16, 2011, 09:02:01 PM
Some kid on Mike Mo's FB fanpage said that if he goes to DC, "I will lose all respect for Mo".

I kinda lol'd.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: 1978 on October 16, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
DC = hitler.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: scorpion1001 on October 16, 2011, 09:36:02 PM
Dudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?

And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...
that's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Cold Pizza on October 16, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
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Dudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?

And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...
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that's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.

You are over 30 and still think people judge you by what shoes you have on your feet?  Yikes..........
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: gutterhead. on October 16, 2011, 09:42:58 PM
(http://images-cdn.gearbuyer.com/dc_graffik_slide_sn_mens_color_black_p1__1.jpg)

Best purchase i ever made.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Paul Cicero on October 16, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
DC = hitler.

Haha thats kinda heavy. Funny tho
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: mini greek on October 17, 2011, 09:40:06 AM
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: WhackAsFuck on October 17, 2011, 09:48:19 AM
Confirmed Mike Mo pro model
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Riverside on October 17, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
weather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Cadillac Ranch Dressing on October 17, 2011, 11:19:26 AM
weather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe
(http://diggingalot.org/diggingalot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rain-weather-460_790478c.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Ripped Laces on October 17, 2011, 12:26:12 PM
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weather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe
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:D
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Pavementi on October 17, 2011, 01:40:06 PM
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Dudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?

And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...
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that's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
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You are over 30 and still think people judge you by what shoes you have on your feet?  Yikes..........
Are you kidding me? That's about as true a statement as you can get. If I saw a businessman in his work clothes, wearing some jordan 3s I would judge him differently than a dude wearing the same outfit with oxfords. Duh.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FiftyScent on October 17, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
just saw some thing on skateboarding.com that said hes officially off lakai. alot of people saying he gonna goto nike sb or dc. ive heard the dc rumor for a while now so id bet on that, but hed be cooler on nike sb.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: life support on October 17, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
dekline
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: rlang on October 17, 2011, 02:34:24 PM
If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hobochilli on October 17, 2011, 02:37:39 PM
If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything. 
This
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 17, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything. 

keep on rolling in you D3s and your ChetThomas 4s.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: TheDanDan on October 17, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
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If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything. 
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You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on October 17, 2011, 05:01:59 PM
http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: era on October 17, 2011, 05:22:08 PM
http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)

"besides Cairo"... harsh.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Twilight Zone on October 17, 2011, 05:40:36 PM
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http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
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"besides Cairo"... harsh.

shots fired
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 17, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
[close]

Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.

Wrong.... My new shoe is done and is so sick!
Taking the shoe game to a new level. I really wish i could leak the photo's.. but i have to wait. Its the best cross between slim/clean toe.. with a cup sole that has the technology to prevent heal bruises. Its real sick.

Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sufodiv on October 17, 2011, 06:34:23 PM
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: MFS on October 17, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
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Steve Berra is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
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Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: ivegotlevitation on October 17, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
dekline

this please
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: swagdragon123 on October 17, 2011, 07:44:37 PM
the mike mo 1
if shane o'neil leaves nike.....nike! then hes regular
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: matt. on October 17, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
fuck berra
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Marty Mcfly on October 17, 2011, 08:00:42 PM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
[close]

Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
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Wrong.... My new shoe is done and is so sick!
Taking the shoe game to a new level. I really wish i could leak the photo's.. but i have to wait. Its the best cross between slim/clean toe.. with a cup sole that has the technology to prevent heal bruises. Its real sick.



Yeah dude I was thinking you were just referring to the last shoe at that, and the leeches in here that jumps on freebies didn't help on your shoe sale either.  So if any of the leeches in the last dgkalis giveaway could take hint, show some gratitude and fork out some money on those oh so high paying job of yours and order it at your shop.. And quit being leeches
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: HK on October 17, 2011, 08:14:14 PM
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http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
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"besides Cairo"... harsh.
hahaha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: popsiclesandskatin on October 17, 2011, 08:15:05 PM
I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LemonParty on October 18, 2011, 08:34:25 AM
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http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
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"besides Cairo"... harsh.
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hahaha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Riverside on October 18, 2011, 10:06:00 AM
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weather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe
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Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Donkey Lips on October 18, 2011, 10:15:58 AM
I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sfa on October 18, 2011, 10:42:19 AM
I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?

5 million over 5 years, is what I heard they were offering Malto.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 18, 2011, 10:46:23 AM
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I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
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Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.

and always having that thought of retiring with 30 in your mind.. or even less, if you can actually handle money and dont go crazy. i mean, if someone offered me a substantial amount of money for doing what i love, i sure wouldnt know how i would act. of course its easy for me to blame MikeMo for that, because i know that it will never happen to me and so i can always act like i wouldnt do it. also, i am on a messageboard in the internet, so i basically have to hate.

but i still hope that he will get his money somewhere else. maybe.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Fongstarr on October 18, 2011, 10:50:25 AM
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I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
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Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.

Plus there are other skaters that are making tons of money that aren't even as good as Mike Mo. I think the guy deserves it considering how much star power he has.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on October 18, 2011, 11:01:20 AM
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If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�
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You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.

No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.

Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.

And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason.  Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche.  But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.    
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Samuel Gorgompus on October 18, 2011, 11:14:51 AM
http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)

Berra's getting defensive - @steve_berra: "Everyone at the fake shoe site can come at me directly. Lunch this Friday pussies."

Kind of sad honestly.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Cthulhu! on October 18, 2011, 11:17:51 AM
Yeah!


(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/3518_21414.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: TrainWreck on October 18, 2011, 11:20:43 AM
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I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
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Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.
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and always having that thought of retiring with 30 in your mind.. or even less, if you can actually handle money and dont go crazy. i mean, if someone offered me a substantial amount of money for doing what i love, i sure wouldnt know how i would act. of course its easy for me to blame MikeMo for that, because i know that it will never happen to me and so i can always act like i wouldnt do it. also, i am on a messageboard in the internet, so i basically have to hate.

but i still hope that he will get his money somewhere else. maybe.


THIS ! ... one very bad landing or just a stupid kickflip might end one`s career ... so u pretty much have to grab the cash while u can ... and ... it is dc ... and it is not like he is starting another shoe-company with berra and j.cassanova ... i really liked the first dc vid , but i have never ever skated one of theirs shoes ... damm ... if he puts out two or three more parts ... i cant say anything against this money-move !
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: ice nine on October 18, 2011, 11:21:19 AM
Maybe your heron use has clouded your judgement, lakai/dc/emerica all make super slim simple shoes, unless you are really just buying for the brand name.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on October 18, 2011, 11:36:33 AM
Maybe your heron use has clouded your judgement, lakai/dc/emerica all make super slim simple shoes, unless you are really just buying for the brand name.

yes, i am using too much "heron." During periods of sobriety, when i think of lakai/dc/emerica, i think "super slim simple shoes", and they definitely do not look regular on or off the board.   
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Big Skatefase on October 18, 2011, 11:41:05 AM
they def need to bring back dem dc lynx joints. i wanna get my brian wenning on and switch back tail on benches n shit b.

ayo kalis i know you b readin dis shit. tell dem niggas at dc to chill with the bullshit and bring back the lynx.....and i'll let dat ridiculousness shit with dyrdick slide nahmean.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: yescomply on October 18, 2011, 11:47:02 AM
I could see any of the Sole Tech guys going. Been hearing they are having some major money issues.
its mainly just etnies and that thirty two snowboarding shit.
there splitting it into two bits. etnies and thirthy two and the other half emerica aand altamont the two who arnt really having any problems.
its all to do with etnies being fucked but they wont give it up because it there baby
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chris P. Bacon on October 18, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
the skateboarding industry is shit.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chavo on October 18, 2011, 12:35:32 PM
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This
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You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.
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No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.

Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.

And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason.  Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche.  But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.    

Just get a pair of Allen Edmonds and you'll be covered. I suppose that if you could only wear one shoe for business/interviews/skateboarding/etc. I'd go for something a little more conservative than Adidas (I'll always associate that brand with Korn) or Cons--perhaps a Gravis Dylan in black.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on October 18, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
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If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�
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No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.

Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.

And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason.  Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche.  But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.    
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Just get a pair of Allen Edmonds and you'll be covered. I suppose that if you could only wear one shoe for business/interviews/skateboarding/etc. I'd go for something a little more conservative than Adidas (I'll always associate that brand with Korn) or Cons--perhaps a Gravis Dylan in black.

yes, Chavo, I only have 1 pair of shoes, and need to make sure I have all my bases covered. i like to line my schedule up so that after a heavy, sweaty session, i can go right to work or an interview, and then to meet my girlfreind or a friend for dinner at a decent restaurant in downtown manhattan, all without changing shoes once. no. 

however, you pulled kind of a bait and switch, neglecting to really address either of the points here. 1- like it or not, you will inevitably be judged for the type of shoe you wear, whether that be in a work/business environment, or just for chilling. saying fuck the world, i don't care what anyone thinks of me, i'm just going to wear painfully obvious skate shoes in any, and all, situations is a bit ridiculous. 2- most of the strictly skate shoes listed above are pretty sore on the eye, more-so than shoes made by cons or adidas. some vans are fine with me, aesthetically, although they hurt my feet to skate in. 3- (i suppose) while i understand the "for the good of skateboarding" argument, at teh end of the day, i am not going to sacrifice my own preferences for the sake of a skate shoe brand.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: InternetDaddy on October 18, 2011, 12:56:24 PM
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No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.

Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.

And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason.  Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche.  But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.    
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Just get a pair of Allen Edmonds and you'll be covered. I suppose that if you could only wear one shoe for business/interviews/skateboarding/etc. I'd go for something a little more conservative than Adidas (I'll always associate that brand with Korn) or Cons--perhaps a Gravis Dylan in black.
you must be one of the few people in america who still thinks about/associates anything with Korn.

If anything, I associate Adidas with Run DMC, which just makes me like them more.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: blake guzman on October 18, 2011, 06:49:15 PM
When they make a deal that big - $5m over 5 years , or something similar - do you think that DC puts in an easy termination clause? like, "we don't think you are getting enough fotty, so, terminate." I wonder if he would do better in the long run to stay with guys that might keep him around longer. then again, it's not like the Crail fam did Mike York any favors, so why would they for Mike Mo?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: bakedRice on October 18, 2011, 08:30:43 PM
When they make a deal that big - $5m over 5 years , or something similar - do you think that DC puts in an easy termination clause? like, "we don't think you are getting enough fotty, so, terminate." I wonder if he would do better in the long run to stay with guys that might keep him around longer. then again, it's not like the Crail fam did Mike York any favors, so why would they for Mike Mo?

that reminds me of pj, i wonder what his contract looked like, it felt like they dropped him like 6 months after his shoe came out, that was a weird move.

and that n-sb site just continually shit on cairo... guy was the first rider to be asked to join the team, been there since day one (after mike and rick), rides for enjoi, one of the most "stylish" and "creative" brands in skating, and they treat him like hes fucking austin stephens of something.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Monty Burns on October 18, 2011, 08:58:28 PM
I still dont think it should be all about the money . Ive taken several times jobs that pay me less , makes me work more hours and more hard work  . I do it cause its more interesting work at those places and you learn more . Plus you get it one the resume

It would be like World Ind telling me they would pay me more , then chocolate . But ofc I would go to Chocolate

Im not saying pro skaters should be all skate rats ,5 dudes sleeping on floors and couches . But do you really have to be Dyrdek ( just a example )  rich ?   super big house MTV cribs style . 4 cars . TVs bigger then some of ours appartments .

Is it really that bad to have to work another job after skating ? what about working in the industry making it better ? or help building parks .  Fuck it go to school and get a good job ? .

Anyways , maybe Im not making much sense .  But after reading the new stuff on YWS and from what Ive seen on the berrics . Id rather stay at a small company then get into a company with fucking Steve Berra . I usualy dont talk shit about ppl  but fuck that dude


Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 18, 2011, 10:14:32 PM
Normally i would stay out of a conversation like this... but there are a few things i got to say.

Its one thing to not like a company.. or their riders.. but to be so naive about what is really going on and spreading false info is pretty crazy.

Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.

Im not going to get into any DC/Mike Mo talk... thats still under speculation.. and if it comes true.. thats for either Mo or DC to release.

However, Have you ever sat back and wondered that maybe companies don't always approach the skater. That maybe the skater approaches the company?? Sure DC may approach people.. but there are MANY folks coming to DC every day trying to get on. And for good reason.

Over the years... when pro shoes were popping up big time... DC always treated the rider with a fair royalty. That means the skater ACTUALLY got paid a decent percent of the shoe that sold with their name on it. Well.. come to find out.. there was A TON of dudes in the shoe world getting ripped the fuck off. Making 3 times LESS than the industry standard. Those dudes are some of YOUR favorite skaters. The companies actually paid them in cents per shoe sold. Thats fucked. Dudes that deserved way more money because of sales... weren't getting it. DC NEVER has ripped off any rider. Ever.

So reading some of you alls statements about DC being lame or wack, or whatever... they take care of their people. And there are alot of guys that want and need to be taken care of. But instead... they sit back and get ripped off.

One example i'll give you... One of the hottest selling shoes right now is a pro who s cool as fuck. He deserves every bit of royalty. But the company he rides for decided to make the identical shoe WITHOUT his name on it. Why? To under cut him? I don't know.. but to me thats fucked. And that is something DC would never even consider. Shit... your probably wearing the shoe right now. lol.

Anyway... There is a lot more than a paycheck when it comes down to riding for DC. Its loyalty. Not only from the skater.. but from the company. And for the dudes who have been cut in the past... well you have to be fucking up for quite a long time, with MANY warnings of getting your shit together before that happens. But at the end of the day... if you can't produce whats asked.. you will get fired. Just like in the real world.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Monty Burns on October 18, 2011, 10:26:37 PM


Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.


Well , I didnt mean to single out Dyrdek in that way . I guess its kinda the way I write sometimes that gets messed up

Dyrdek was one of my fav skaters back in the time code area . And I dont really have a problem with him making money or being on tv . I know hes done alot for AWS , Parks and other skaters . And he seems like a nice guy from what ive seen on some vids ( havent seen him on his shows since I dont watch TV)


I just used him as a example of somebody who is in skating and who is rich .

Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: KatyPerry on October 18, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
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holy shit. i was just about to say something about that. what a low blow to cairo.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: the canadian suit on October 18, 2011, 11:19:01 PM
It makes sense that DC might be able to take care of their riders better, or secure contracts, etc. However, there should still be some level of respect in skateboarding (Maybe not anymore with the industry so split. Complete class disparity.) The fact that DC has brought up guys like Marquis, Evan Smith, and Wes Kremer is sick to me. But at the same time, them buying Mikey Taylor, Davis Torgerson, Chris Cole, potentially Nyjah, and Mike Mo looks a little suspect. If that makes sense.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: smokecrack on October 18, 2011, 11:23:51 PM
Normally i would stay out of a conversation like this... but there are a few things i got to say.

Its one thing to not like a company.. or their riders.. but to be so naive about what is really going on and spreading false info is pretty crazy.

Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.

Im not going to get into any DC/Mike Mo talk... thats still under speculation.. and if it comes true.. thats for either Mo or DC to release.

However, Have you ever sat back and wondered that maybe companies don't always approach the skater. That maybe the skater approaches the company?? Sure DC may approach people.. but there are MANY folks coming to DC every day trying to get on. And for good reason.

Over the years... when pro shoes were popping up big time... DC always treated the rider with a fair royalty. That means the skater ACTUALLY got paid a decent percent of the shoe that sold with their name on it. Well.. come to find out.. there was A TON of dudes in the shoe world getting ripped the fuck off. Making 3 times LESS than the industry standard. Those dudes are some of YOUR favorite skaters. The companies actually paid them in cents per shoe sold. Thats fucked. Dudes that deserved way more money because of sales... weren't getting it. DC NEVER has ripped off any rider. Ever.

So reading some of you alls statements about DC being lame or wack, or whatever... they take care of their people. And there are alot of guys that want and need to be taken care of. But instead... they sit back and get ripped off.

One example i'll give you... One of the hottest selling shoes right now is a pro who s cool as fuck. He deserves every bit of royalty. But the company he rides for decided to make the identical shoe WITHOUT his name on it. Why? To under cut him? I don't know.. but to me thats fucked. And that is something DC would never even consider. Shit... your probably wearing the shoe right now. lol.

Anyway... There is a lot more than a paycheck when it comes down to riding for DC. Its loyalty. Not only from the skater.. but from the company. And for the dudes who have been cut in the past... well you have to be fucking up for quite a long time, with MANY warnings of getting your shit together before that happens. But at the end of the day... if you can't produce whats asked.. you will get fired. Just like in the real world.

i don't really get this argument. for one, the shoes don't look exactly alike to me

(http://www.sneakerfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Nike-SB-Team-Edition-2-Spring-2012-1.jpg)

(http://www.nikeshoessaless.com/images/nike-zoom-stefan-janoski-7.jpg)

secondly, if they were trying to undercut him, why would they be releasing a mid version of his shoe (in a shitload of colors) and an upcoming velcro-strap version?

(http://freshkicksny.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/nike-sb-janoski-mid-oil-green-pecan-september-2011-01.jpg)

(http://www.nikeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Nike-SB-Zoom-Stefan-Janoski-Velcro-2.jpg)

i don't think they'd be releasing multiple versions of his pro model if they were really trying to screw him over.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: cletus the slack jawed yokel on October 18, 2011, 11:54:42 PM
i dig DC thats bad?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on October 19, 2011, 12:03:47 AM
side note, those brown/orange janoski's are fake.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Paul Cicero on October 19, 2011, 12:36:55 AM
side note, those brown/orange janoski's are fake.

HAHA Tate your the shoe master. Respect
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sametelt on October 19, 2011, 12:56:26 AM
side note, those brown/orange janoski's are fake.

Relevant information.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sebastian on October 19, 2011, 02:11:49 AM
Respect to DGKalis.

If I was a professional skateboarder and had the chance to make money, and continue doing what I love to do (skateboarding), DC would be a viable option. I mean there are really a few companies I wouldn't consider going on, but as far as I'm concerned, DC is one of the companies that was there when I started skating, and is still there. And it's obvious that every shoe company has some ugly shoes that are only bought by non-skaters, but the slap-forum only chooses to acknowledge DC. It's still a skate shoe company, and if it supports it's riders enough for them to keep staying on or moving to the company, then it can't be bad. Plus you probably get to go chill at the MTN. Lab/ other DC houses which is pretty sick.

If kids come and see you at a demo, no matter if it includes fucking motocross or ice skating, you should just skate. The companies are employing you, and you have to put in some work to keep them satisfied with giving you money for practically nothing (don't tell me you'd quit skating if you weren't paid).
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: wuust on October 19, 2011, 03:15:16 AM
so when is DC gonna rerelease some dc lynx?
also tate and josh, what's the story behind the number 7 and dc?
thanks.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Andrefosho on October 19, 2011, 04:09:33 AM
they def need to bring back dem dc lynx joints. i wanna get my brian wenning on and switch back tail on benches n shit b.

ayo kalis i know you b readin dis shit. tell dem niggas at dc to chill with the bullshit and bring back the lynx.....and i'll let dat ridiculousness shit with dyrdick slide nahmean.
This is my favorite post today.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: the canadian suit on October 19, 2011, 06:30:20 AM
so when is DC gonna rerelease some dc lynx?
also tate and josh, what's the story behind the number 7 and dc?
thanks.

I assume the 7 is because the DC stands for 43, as in Droors 43 clothing. 4+3=7. That is my hypothesis. Perhaps someone can form their own equation and either prove or disprove said hypothesis.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Tyroneshoelaces on October 19, 2011, 06:59:07 AM
tell dem niggas at dc to chill with the bullshit and bring back the lynx
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: chillout on October 19, 2011, 06:59:45 AM
Normally i would stay out of a conversation like this... but there are a few things i got to say.

Its one thing to not like a company.. or their riders.. but to be so naive about what is really going on and spreading false info is pretty crazy.

Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.

Im not going to get into any DC/Mike Mo talk... thats still under speculation.. and if it comes true.. thats for either Mo or DC to release.

However, Have you ever sat back and wondered that maybe companies don't always approach the skater. That maybe the skater approaches the company?? Sure DC may approach people.. but there are MANY folks coming to DC every day trying to get on. And for good reason.

Over the years... when pro shoes were popping up big time... DC always treated the rider with a fair royalty. That means the skater ACTUALLY got paid a decent percent of the shoe that sold with their name on it. Well.. come to find out.. there was A TON of dudes in the shoe world getting ripped the fuck off. Making 3 times LESS than the industry standard. Those dudes are some of YOUR favorite skaters. The companies actually paid them in cents per shoe sold. Thats fucked. Dudes that deserved way more money because of sales... weren't getting it. DC NEVER has ripped off any rider. Ever.

So reading some of you alls statements about DC being lame or wack, or whatever... they take care of their people. And there are alot of guys that want and need to be taken care of. But instead... they sit back and get ripped off.

One example i'll give you... One of the hottest selling shoes right now is a pro who s cool as fuck. He deserves every bit of royalty. But the company he rides for decided to make the identical shoe WITHOUT his name on it. Why? To under cut him? I don't know.. but to me thats fucked. And that is something DC would never even consider. Shit... your probably wearing the shoe right now. lol.

Anyway... There is a lot more than a paycheck when it comes down to riding for DC. Its loyalty. Not only from the skater.. but from the company. And for the dudes who have been cut in the past... well you have to be fucking up for quite a long time, with MANY warnings of getting your shit together before that happens. But at the end of the day... if you can't produce whats asked.. you will get fired. Just like in the real world.

stefan. haha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: asakusa75 on October 19, 2011, 07:10:50 AM
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...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
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Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .

And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.

They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
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Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
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Wrong.... My new shoe is done and is so sick!
Taking the shoe game to a new level. I really wish i could leak the photo's.. but i have to wait. Its the best cross between slim/clean toe.. with a cup sole that has the technology to prevent heal bruises. Its real sick.


Psyched . I hate all these fucking boat shoes these days...I will buy some Kalis shoes.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: oldgoodburger on October 19, 2011, 07:43:40 AM
yeah whats up with the Cairo hate?
I would prolly respect DC more if they has always stayed true to skating, after all they started in skating which puts them above nike sb and adidas in that aspect. However I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding which is what i'm looking to spend money on and put on my feet. shit i dont even know if my local shop carries DC which puts them outta the question before anything.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FiftyScent on October 19, 2011, 08:17:17 AM
im sure DC makes most of its money off of mall-shoes but i dont really care. as long as their skateboarding division makes quality product & they take care of their riders im not gonna knock em. i havent worn the shoes in about 4-5 years but i know damn well they take good care of their riders lol
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: McBrandt on October 19, 2011, 08:29:04 AM
yeah whats up with the Cairo hate?
I would prolly respect DC more if they has always stayed true to skating, after all they started in skating which puts them above nike sb and adidas in that aspect. However I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding which is what i'm looking to spend money on and put on my feet. shit i dont even know if my local shop carries DC which puts them outta the question before anything.

That's a pretty sad comparison. DC branched OUT of skateboarding. Nike and Adidads branched IN to skateboarding. I've never been a fan of DC's products or aesthetic. But, I will be the first to admit it started in skateboarding and is more of a skateboarding company than your precious Nike and Adidas are. Have fun wearing them shits all the way to Walmart to pick up your future complete.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 19, 2011, 08:31:14 AM
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also tate and josh, what's the story behind the number 7 and dc?
thanks.
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I assume the 7 is because the DC stands for 43, as in Droors 43 clothing. 4+3=7. That is my hypothesis. Perhaps someone can form their own equation and either prove or disprove said hypothesis.

This is right, im pretty sure.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FiftyScent on October 19, 2011, 08:44:00 AM
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yeah whats up with the Cairo hate?
I would prolly respect DC more if they has always stayed true to skating, after all they started in skating which puts them above nike sb and adidas in that aspect. However I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding which is what i'm looking to spend money on and put on my feet. shit i dont even know if my local shop carries DC which puts them outta the question before anything.
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That's a pretty sad comparison. DC branched OUT of skateboarding. Nike and Adidads branched IN to skateboarding. I've never been a fan of DC's products or aesthetic. But, I will be the first to admit it started in skateboarding and is more of a skateboarding company than your precious Nike and Adidas are. Have fun wearing them shits all the way to Walmart to pick up your future complete.

Vans did the same thing many, many years ago. they werent started as a skateboarding company


Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BlackEye77 on October 19, 2011, 08:48:59 AM
I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding

Just want to say that just because DC makes other lines doesn't necessarily mean that they abandoned their skate shoes. Your examples, Nike and Adidas, make plenty of other lines too so it's a little unfair to say they're more focused on skating than DC. I don't keep up on a lot of this stuff, but there's no way that I could imagine Nike and Adidas being more skate-centric than DC.

I mostly skate in Vans and don't give a shit if they make non-skate stuff, as long as I can still get my La Cripta Dos, TnT's, etc., and if any rider wants to move to DC or any other company, that's their choice.

As far as Lakai goes though, the Mike Mo model was one of their better looking shoes and probably one of the only Lakai's I would've bought. Shitty.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Fongstarr on October 19, 2011, 08:58:54 AM
Janoski's will still sell better then the team editions. And it won't undercut Stefan if he keeps making pro shoes. I think he is due for another one anyways.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Rumpleforeskin on October 19, 2011, 09:06:57 AM
I could care less about Mo, but hating on Cairo???  As if I didn't hate sneakerheads enough
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Donkey Lips on October 19, 2011, 09:21:22 AM
Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: tag_king on October 19, 2011, 09:25:02 AM
Fuck NSB.orgs 'skateboarding journalism'. Stick to dunk colour ways.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: era on October 19, 2011, 01:48:30 PM
Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.

Just a guess... but coming from a professionals "mouth" who has had a much better chance then any of us to actually have a conversation with said pro in person, might be some validity to it.  But then again there has been no actual proof its Janoski so who knows!
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Big Skatefase on October 19, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
BRING BACK DA LYNX!  :'( (http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/43558/2030599680055961818S500x500Q85.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Twilight Zone on October 19, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
i think everyone should stop to really appreciate that someone made a slap account based on a guy from a blog based on a famous rapper.


I love that blog, too.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 19, 2011, 02:48:10 PM
if kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Monty Burns on October 19, 2011, 03:22:04 PM
if kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.

Meh ,its weird just having  made the wrong impression of one of your favourit skaters . Kinda hope Kalis knows what I mean and I ment it not in a negative way .

Ive bought kalis boards and shoes since way back . And Im sure Ill buy his new Pro Model shoe too
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Captain Krooks on October 19, 2011, 04:19:31 PM
Super stoked that he gets to release another one. I'm not really feeling many of the shoes that are out. Kalis's Pro Models have always been on point.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 19, 2011, 04:40:17 PM
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if kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.
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Meh ,its weird just having� made the wrong impression of one of your favourit skaters . Kinda hope Kalis knows what I mean and I ment it not in a negative way .

Ive bought kalis boards and shoes since way back . And Im sure Ill buy his new Pro Model shoe too

Im not offended at all... Don't worry about that shit!! We're only talking shit over here!! lol.
Little debate style. Shit.. it can be spooky throwing my two cents on the net.

But i understand where your coming from... trust me. There is shit cracking off in the skate world that makes 0 sense to me too. Actually upsets me to the point where i will hate on some shit. Its a fucked up time out there right now. We need Kelch, Sanch, Clyde, the old Bird, and a few others to step in and be like..... "WAIT A FUCKING SECOND!!!!!!" lol.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: waltercronkite on October 19, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
i saw mike mo's lakai shoe with all the other lakai shoes at bobs and kohls stores not exactly core take it for what it is everyones trying to make a buck these days who gives a fuck
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Monty Burns on October 19, 2011, 05:54:46 PM
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if kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.
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Meh ,its weird just having� made the wrong impression of one of your favourit skaters . Kinda hope Kalis knows what I mean and I ment it not in a negative way .

Ive bought kalis boards and shoes since way back . And Im sure Ill buy his new Pro Model shoe too
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Im not offended at all... Don't worry about that shit!! We're only talking shit over here!! lol.
Little debate style. Shit.. it can be spooky throwing my two cents on the net.

But i understand where your coming from... trust me. There is shit cracking off in the skate world that makes 0 sense to me too. Actually upsets me to the point where i will hate on some shit. Its a fucked up time out there right now. We need Kelch, Sanch, Clyde, the old Bird, and a few others to step in and be like..... "WAIT A FUCKING SECOND!!!!!!" lol.

its like you said a weird period in skate . i totaly under stand skater needing money , but then again its not really what I have grown up in skating . In some ways I kinda think we are suposed to be the broke ones , or just scarping by .

I totaly understand gettnig money . But in so many ways , working the way I work and in the industry I work ( not skateboarding ) I see knowledge , style and working in the right place is more important then money .

Anyways Half the time I dont make sence anyways , Get dyrdek to sign up here , he would be a awsome poster
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: camel filters on October 19, 2011, 10:10:26 PM
the stevie williams was the second skate shoe i ever had and i had the lynx a couple times before they discontinued them. by the way, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? DC had a surefire classic and just decided to scrap it? it would be like if vans got rid of the old school; nike/the dunk; addidas/the campus; etc. thats some weird decision making.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chavo on October 20, 2011, 12:59:49 AM
the stevie williams was the second skate shoe i ever had and i had the lynx a couple times before they discontinued them. by the way, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? DC had a surefire classic and just decided to scrap it? it would be like if vans got rid of the old school; nike/the dunk; addidas/the campus; etc. thats some weird decision making.

Actual skaters are a small portion of their sales. All the other shoes you mention are popular with non-skaters--that's where the money is.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: RoedGroed on October 20, 2011, 01:01:13 AM
I don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on. But so do Nike, Vans and a whole lot of other skate-shoe related companies out there that people consider 'core'. They are no different from DC in any way. Every single company out there puts out batshit ugly shoes too. It doesn't matter - as long as they come correct in their skateboard department. You have to make money to give back money, and if you can make money off the mall-kids and give them back to skateboarders im fine with that.

In my country, DC is one of the only brands actually having a national team. They make money here, so they give back. They have 12 team riders and do tours and everything. They give shit back to the skateboarders. Vans make crazy money here as well, but they don't have a team? They don't even sponsor events or parks. DC does that a lot. I have nothing but respect for giving back to skateboarding and skateboarders. Hell, they even hook me up just for shooting photos and helping out every now and then, almost no other skateboard brand around here wants to throw money after such things. I have been skating nothing but DC's for the last couple of years, and I have been really satisfied with it. The Match, Landau, Tonik and the rest of the skateboard line is quality shoes.

And yes, bring back the Lynx! I have 2 pairs sitting in my closet, and I rock them every now and then. Don't want to wear them out, but I just get a kick out of rocking them. I fucking wish I could buy new pairs so I couldt be able to skate at least one of them.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Flipkick on October 20, 2011, 01:22:56 AM
(http://image.rakuten.co.jp/kinetics-tokyo/cabinet/00830346/dc-tonik630.jpg)

you guys dont know what you're talking 'bout. try these


just by G-codes and skate like a BAWS
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LooseTrux on October 20, 2011, 05:12:27 AM
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I don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.
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There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.


You are aware that Soletech includes the 32 snowboarding brand...aren't you?

My facts are hazy but didn't they essentially grow outwardly in the same manner as DC? They've just broken things up into different brands under the same umbrella- skate/apparel/snow instead of keeping one label? The hatred is quite comical when you think about it.
I mainly skate eS as it is, and after seeing those dudes get fucked over, if you hear someone like Kalis saying that there are actually brands that take care of their people, it's hard to be that negative.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: RoedGroed on October 20, 2011, 05:30:49 AM
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I don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.
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There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.

The Lynx were a great shoe, but I'd never buy DCs in this day and age.

I know! Standing alone, that quote of mine is so bad haha! But, my point is, how can people call Vans, Nike and so on 'core' when they are doing the same thing. Im not backing moto-x at all, but either way a lot of the 'core' brands are doing it as well without getting any trouble for it.

I know Emerica isn't sponsoring moto-x and so on, but as you said they are under Soletech. Soletech has snowboard and BMX brands as well. Even Etnies has a snowboard and bmx team. But yeah, I understand your point, I just think its strange with DC getting all the hate, while the other companies seems to get away with it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BarcelonaCEO on October 20, 2011, 05:43:42 AM
DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: RoedGroed on October 20, 2011, 06:47:23 AM

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I don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.
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There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.

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You are aware that Soletech includes the 32 snowboarding brand...aren't you?

My facts are hazy but didn't they essentially grow outwardly in the same manner as DC? They've just broken things up into different brands under the same umbrella- skate/apparel/snow instead of keeping one label? The hatred is quite comical when you think about it.
I mainly skate eS as it is, and after seeing those dudes get fucked over, if you hear someone like Kalis saying that there are actually brands that take care of their people, it's hard to be that negative.
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I sure am, that's why I mentioned the Sole Tech thing... It'd be sick if Emerica was just on their own. I back them, a lot to do with their ass kicking team.

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I don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.
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There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.

The Lynx were a great shoe, but I'd never buy DCs in this day and age.
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I know! Standing alone, that quote of mine is so bad haha! But, my point is, how can people call Vans, Nike and so on 'core' when they are doing the same thing. Im not backing moto-x at all, but either way a lot of the 'core' brands are doing it as well without getting any trouble for it.

I know Emerica isn't sponsoring moto-x and so on, but as you said they are under Soletech. Soletech has snowboard and BMX brands as well. Even Etnies has a snowboard and bmx team. But yeah, I understand your point, I just think its strange with DC getting all the hate, while the other companies seems to get away with it.
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Yeah, for sure. I never wear Vans but you're right with people's attitudes towards them. Really there's probably the same amount, if not more, people wearing Vans who don't skate compared to DC. D

I just don't think DC will ever be what they were in like early 2000s. They were actually my very first descent shoe and they skated pretty well, plus they released a video a few years later(AVE 's part!). What are they doing now? Lots of ads with all these power moves but are they actually filming for a video or anything? Even with their team now I don't think many people care.

No, unfortunatly not. Nothing will be like it was in the early 2000's. Or the 90's. Yet everybody wants to go back. I want to go back, because to me it seemed more pure and real back then, probably because I was younger and didn't know or care about any of the business stuff. I was raised on The DC Video, and almost every part was legit in that video. They seemed like a team who actually new each other. That video had a good overall feel to it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Nose Face on October 20, 2011, 08:23:39 AM
Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.

Ha - we're talking about Nike - they know how to get those hooks in deep. Sure they can make a Stefan Mid, Velcro, Etc - but if the company can make/market BASICALLY the same shoe - AND not have to pay the royalty to Stefan - why wouldn't they do it? This is just pure business sense - reaping the most profit from a tried and true product that sells.

The old team edition's sucked - the ones that looked like the Osiris D3's. Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. You gotta realize these are also for people who can't pay the extra money for a Janoski - I'd bet the price difference between the Janoski and the Team Edition would be around $30 or $40 - something in that range. Sometimes that's all the price break you need to turn a customer away. You know how cheap vans are - that customer would probably go for something like a Chukka low for $50 - now Nike can take that market share with the Team Edition. I haven't skated a pair - but If they skate like Janoski and can hook a young kid up - there's a silver lining, right?

and I would have to bet - Janoski gets some sick royalty check in the mail each month. You don't think Johnny Layton doesn't get one each month for his Jay Lay's in Zumies or Pac Sun? Sure he does. As to percentages on each shoe, who knows - but the sales seem pretty powerful. You know what I mean - you see everyone on the scene with Janoski's.

I'll put it to you like this - When those awful bombings / Shootings went off in Oslo back in July - I was looking at the photos on a UK site, and a dude is rocking the Janoski's right in the middle of the carnage.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg)

I don't know if I did the image right - scroll down to the RED EMT Guys with the guy in the Tan Jacket.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Anders-Behring-Breivik-arrested-holiday-island-massacre.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Anders-Behring-Breivik-arrested-holiday-island-massacre.html)

My two Cents...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 20, 2011, 08:28:55 AM
thats it, i?ll never buy nike again.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: aalmazan on October 20, 2011, 08:59:17 AM
haha notice how theres nikes, adiadas, and cons in that picture
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Marty Mcfly on October 20, 2011, 09:24:27 AM
And the EMT guy is probably wearing wolverines. Can anyone clarify?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: ice nine on October 20, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
(Can't quote on my phone)To the dc employee a few posts back. No one that has any sense has ever called vans, adidas, or nike core companies. Don't make shit up.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: chillout on October 20, 2011, 10:20:07 AM
everything is just perception. its all just shoe companies trying to make the most money they can while often helping skateboarders along the way. at the end of the day you just need to support your local shop and the board companies you believe in
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Donkey Lips on October 20, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: The Nose Face  link=topic=53309.msg1547399#msg1547399 date=1319124219
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Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.
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Ha - we're talking about Nike - they know how to get those hooks in deep. Sure they can make a Stefan Mid, Velcro, Etc - but if the company can make/market BASICALLY the same shoe - AND not have to pay the royalty to Stefan - why wouldn't they do it? This is just pure business sense - reaping the most profit from a tried and true product that sells.

The old team edition's sucked - the ones that looked like the Osiris D3's. Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. You gotta realize these are also for people who can't pay the extra money for a Janoski - I'd bet the price difference between the Janoski and the Team Edition would be around $30 or $40 - something in that range. Sometimes that's all the price break you need to turn a customer away. You know how cheap vans are - that customer would probably go for something like a Chukka low for $50 - now Nike can take that market share with the Team Edition. I haven't skated a pair - but If they skate like Janoski and can hook a young kid up - there's a silver lining, right?

and I would have to bet - Janoski gets some sick royalty check in the mail each month. You don't think Johnny Layton doesn't get one each month for his Jay Lay's in Zumies or Pac Sun? Sure he does. As to percentages on each shoe, who knows - but the sales seem pretty powerful. You know what I mean - you see everyone on the scene with Janoski's.

I'll put it to you like this - When those awful bombings / Shootings went off in Oslo back in July - I was looking at the photos on a UK site, and a dude is rocking the Janoski's right in the middle of the carnage.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg)

I don't know if I did the image right - scroll down to the RED EMT Guys with the guy in the Tan Jacket.

My two Cents...

The team edition shoe definitely won't be a 30-40$ price difference from the Janoski shoe. At that point Nike would be dipping into it's retail price, and the differential between the loss of sale and the amount paid to Stefan for royalties would be way the fuck off. If you think his royalty-per-shoe is set about 10 dollars, you're delusional. What I said was the intention of the Team Edition isn't to take royalties away from Stefan. It's because they said "Hey, a low-top, thin vulc shoe is making a lot of money. Let's make another one and see how it does." Team Editions are also not a permanent shoe. They release a few colorways and they dead them. If they honestly wanted to cut Stefan's royalties, they would just do it at the source, rather than risking the revenue on a shoe run that would  compete with itself.

I never said I didn't think Johnny Layton doesn't get royalties for his shoe. Every skateboarder with their name on a shoe should get a royalty check for merchandise sold, and if you don't, you negotiated your shit wrong. - http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/)

I see people wearing different pro model skate shoes in different photographs all the time. Because you picked out a pair of Janoski's in a news photo means they're a mass marketed shoe? The point you're making is that - someone was wearing a pair on Janoski's? That's great.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Nose Face on October 20, 2011, 11:13:32 AM
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Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.
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Ha - we're talking about Nike - they know how to get those hooks in deep. Sure they can make a Stefan Mid, Velcro, Etc - but if the company can make/market BASICALLY the same shoe - AND not have to pay the royalty to Stefan - why wouldn't they do it? This is just pure business sense - reaping the most profit from a tried and true product that sells.

The old team edition's sucked - the ones that looked like the Osiris D3's. Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. You gotta realize these are also for people who can't pay the extra money for a Janoski - I'd bet the price difference between the Janoski and the Team Edition would be around $30 or $40 - something in that range. Sometimes that's all the price break you need to turn a customer away. You know how cheap vans are - that customer would probably go for something like a Chukka low for $50 - now Nike can take that market share with the Team Edition. I haven't skated a pair - but If they skate like Janoski and can hook a young kid up - there's a silver lining, right?

and I would have to bet - Janoski gets some sick royalty check in the mail each month. You don't think Johnny Layton doesn't get one each month for his Jay Lay's in Zumies or Pac Sun? Sure he does. As to percentages on each shoe, who knows - but the sales seem pretty powerful. You know what I mean - you see everyone on the scene with Janoski's.

I'll put it to you like this - When those awful bombings / Shootings went off in Oslo back in July - I was looking at the photos on a UK site, and a dude is rocking the Janoski's right in the middle of the carnage.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg)

I don't know if I did the image right - scroll down to the RED EMT Guys with the guy in the Tan Jacket.

My two Cents...
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The team edition shoe definitely won't be a 30-40$ price difference from the Janoski shoe. At that point Nike would be dipping into it's retail price, and the differential between the loss of sale and the amount paid to Stefan for royalties would be way the fuck off. If you think his royalty-per-shoe is set about 10 dollars, you're delusional. What I said was the intention of the Team Edition isn't to take royalties away from Stefan. It's because they said "Hey, a low-top, thin vulc shoe is making a lot of money. Let's make another one and see how it does." Team Editions are also not a permanent shoe. They release a few colorways and they dead them. If they honestly wanted to cut Stefan's royalties, they would just do it at the source, rather than risking the revenue on a shoe run that would  compete with itself.

I never said I didn't think Johnny Layton doesn't get royalties for his shoe. Every skateboarder with their name on a shoe should get a royalty check for merchandise sold, and if you don't, you negotiated your shit wrong. - http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/)

I see people wearing different pro model skate shoes in different photographs all the time. Because you picked out a pair of Janoski's in a news photo means they're a mass marketed shoe? The point you're making is that - someone was wearing a pair on Janoski's? That's great.


Nice Article - too bad for Nate, he seems like a nice guy.

So how much of a price point do you think the Team Edition would be compared to the Janoski?

I never said he was getting $10 bucks on every shoe - I said I didn't know the percentages. 

I think we're on the same page here when you said:
"Hey, a low-top, thin vulc shoe is making a lot of money. Let's make another one and see how it does." 

And I Said:
"Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. "

I don't think Nike has to cut Stefan's Revenue - but I think they are emulating the success with another shoe, basically. Time will tell how successful the team edition will be. Didn't realize they were only made for a certain amount of time, then scrapped - do you know why that is?

The point I was making with the Photo was more or less Globalization. What's somewhere - is everywhere now - hence the popularity can grow. So even in the midst of this terrible event - my eye can't help but be drawn to a guy wearing Janoski's. I just think it's cool Stefan designed a shoe that became globally recognized and embraced.

Let me just ask you this: Do you think this guy skates in the photo with the Janoski's on?

Take Care, Donkey Lips.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Donkey Lips on October 20, 2011, 11:29:24 AM
Do I think that guy in the picture skate? Probably. I wouldn't know if he didn't.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 20, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.

There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: VictoriousOG on October 20, 2011, 08:19:24 PM
I wonder when DC is gonna boot Greg Myers.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BraveUlysses on October 20, 2011, 08:33:45 PM
I wonder when DC is gonna boot Greg Myers.
They already did. Him and Ryan Smith left at the same time. I'm not really a fan of Greg Myers but I thought he would blow the fuck up after his skateboarding is forever part. Seems like his whole career has been him just trying to come up.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 20, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
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They already did. Him and Ryan Smith left at the same time.

Naw.... Smith was at least a year before Greg.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BraveUlysses on October 20, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
Damn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Gil on October 21, 2011, 08:01:21 AM
Damn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.
But that style...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Stoop Kid on October 21, 2011, 08:23:03 AM
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DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.
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There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.

Wasn't Smith hurt and unable to skate for a while due to an accident? Did that have anything to do with him getting kicked off? Or let go? or whatever you want to call it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LemonParty on October 21, 2011, 09:45:26 AM
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DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.
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There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.
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Wasn't Smith hurt and unable to skate for a while due to an accident? Did that have anything to do with him getting kicked off? Or let go? or whatever you want to call it.

 yeah thats the story that I got. He got right fucked from some car accident or something that put him out for over a year (might have been a bad skate injury) and dc kicked him off instead of having his back. The story i got from wenning is that he just wasnt putting out any ads/footage and he got dropped due to being lazy (which I understand).

 I can back a company that boots riders that never put footage/ads out, but I cant back a company that kicks its riders off if they get a bad injury (which in the nature of skateboarding, can happen to pretty much anyone at almost anytime)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 21, 2011, 10:08:41 AM
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DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.
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There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.
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Wasn't Smith hurt and unable to skate for a while due to an accident? Did that have anything to do with him getting kicked off? Or let go? or whatever you want to call it.
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 yeah thats the story that I got. He got right fucked from some car accident or something that put him out for over a year (might have been a bad skate injury) and dc kicked him off instead of having his back. The story i got from wenning is that he just wasnt putting out any ads/footage and he got dropped due to being lazy (which I understand).

 I can back a company that boots riders that never put footage/ads out, but I cant back a company that kicks its riders off if they get a bad injury (which in the nature of skateboarding, can happen to pretty much anyone at almost anytime)

Thats not what happened.
Dude had some serious demons he was trying to control for a while. He was about to get let go after a couple years of warnings. Then he had an unfortunate event.. witch led to him driving drunk and almost died when he crashed his bike on the freeway.
He got resigned with DC so he could have the help he needed to recover and try to get back where he needed to be.

Fortunately he recovered... and started skating. But after some time, he kept resorting back to the problems that eventually got him kicked off.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: baconeggandcheese on October 21, 2011, 10:20:05 AM
having DGKALIS posting on slap is the best thing ever.  You just drops knowledge on all on the bunk rumors going around!
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LemonParty on October 21, 2011, 11:10:27 AM
having DGKALIS posting on slap is the best thing ever.  You just drops knowledge on all on the bunk rumors going around!

 yeah for sure. thanks for clearing that up kalis. Theres tons of skate rumors being thrown around all the time and seems like people never get the real version.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BraveUlysses on October 21, 2011, 12:04:25 PM
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Damn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.
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But that style...
Torey Pudwill's style is way worse and that didn't stop him from becoming a household name.  Greg Myers hands are a bit crazy though.GREG MYERS: SKATEBOARDING IS FOREVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIgBfzhWAI#ws)
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FrenchFuck on October 21, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
I don't give a fuck if Mike rides for toys r us. I hope he gets his fair share and saves his cash for post-skateboarding life.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Noioso on October 21, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 21, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.

I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: pandarelated on October 21, 2011, 05:33:30 PM
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What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
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I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.

this is so OT. Kalis! DC should get Ricky O. i know you guys had your issue. but your both hard core street skating skate rats! dude should get some scrizzle.. (was watching the berrics thing part 2).. i'd cop a ricky o DC pro shoe in no seconds flat. hell.. a ricky o colorway even.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Rumpleforeskin on October 21, 2011, 08:18:17 PM
Uhm...  Ricky and DC...  Yeah... 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: chillout on October 21, 2011, 08:38:48 PM
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What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
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I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.

i hate to be nosey, but while we're on the subject, whats up with pj as of now? was always one of my favorite skateboarders and i really wish i could see more of him. kind of seems like he really just wants to skate for himself
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: professional on October 21, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Front Crooks on October 21, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
I stopped wearing DC back in 2000 or some shit.  Then they came out with the Lynx 2 which was bulky and not the same.  They need to make shoes like the Lynx 1's, Carroll Cozmo's, Rick 1's.  DC will never be as sick as it once was. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Tarela on October 21, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
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What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
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I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
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this is so OT. Kalis! DC should get Ricky O. i know you guys had your issue. but your both hard core street skating skate rats! dude should get some scrizzle.. (was watching the berrics thing part 2).. i'd cop a ricky o DC pro shoe in no seconds flat. hell.. a ricky o colorway even.


Doesn't Ricky ride for Vox now and has a shoe? Who knows what happened in the last year or so with that since i checked...I think there are dudes more active and relevant to shit that deserve a shoe...

Edit: He got the boot since i last checked but Ryan Smith is still there
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: NowhereInLife on October 22, 2011, 01:51:44 AM
lynx re-release would be sick.  lakai staple re-re-release would be super sick.

kinda been over mike mo.  although he does have some of the best flat ground ever.  he should get money while the ankle holds up.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: tobal on October 22, 2011, 07:26:16 AM
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What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
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I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
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i hate to be nosey, but while we're on the subject, whats up with pj as of now? was always one of my favorite skateboarders and i really wish i could see more of him. kind of seems like he really just wants to skate for himself

Ok for Smith and Myers, we all know what happened with Wenning, BUT WHATS THE DEAL WITH PJ ?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LemonParty on October 22, 2011, 09:16:24 AM
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What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
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I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
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i hate to be nosey, but while we're on the subject, whats up with pj as of now? was always one of my favorite skateboarders and i really wish i could see more of him. kind of seems like he really just wants to skate for himself
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Ok for Smith and Myers, we all know what happened with Wenning, BUT WHATS THE DEAL WITH PJ ?

 ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:

 "Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on October 22, 2011, 09:20:13 AM

 ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:

 "Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"

no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: radcunt on October 22, 2011, 09:24:36 AM
Good luck to Mo, but fucking the devil can make for some bad babies.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LazyEinstein on October 22, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
Mike Mo please put out footy. One part every 5 years isn't good enough for pro... not even am. If you are too busy living your life and doing other things than skateboarding(like sunglasses)... well then you don't deserve pro anyway nor a shoe sponsor.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: annoyedwithskating on October 22, 2011, 10:17:26 AM
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Damn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.
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But that style...
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Torey Pudwill's style is way worse and that didn't stop him from becoming a household name.  Greg Myers hands are a bit crazy though.GREG MYERS: SKATEBOARDING IS FOREVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIgBfzhWAI#ws)

that part was raw as fuck. i dont get it. seems like most dudes in skating are dumb, how bad could this guy actually be?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Cadillac Ranch Dressing on October 22, 2011, 11:13:47 AM
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 ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:

 "Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"
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no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 22, 2011, 01:20:52 PM
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 ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:

 "Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"
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no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.

True dat!!
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: baconeggandcheese on October 22, 2011, 03:38:46 PM
come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Post by: DGKALIS on October 22, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: baconeggandcheese on October 22, 2011, 04:49:04 PM
respect.  Can't say I didn't try haha
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: eames1 on October 22, 2011, 05:03:02 PM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.


Think of the money QUIKSILVER could save if they let go of the DC PR department and just let DGKalis do it.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LazyEinstein on October 22, 2011, 06:14:10 PM
Out of respect?! Clearly it was intense beef. Either PJ or DC obviously got owned; that or Kalis doesn't know.

Whatever the case I am just glad PJ isn't on DC. DC doesn't deserve him
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: I_Respect_Wood on October 22, 2011, 06:27:41 PM
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 ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:

 "Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"
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no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.
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True dat!!

true dat!!
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: 1978 on October 22, 2011, 07:41:28 PM
its rad how Wes never wears any massive DC logos an shit.  i like that.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Joseph Gordon-Levitt on October 22, 2011, 08:05:48 PM
damn if only greg myers had only got on a real board sponser after seek he would of been making that dc monaayyyy.almost as sad as looking at scott kane nowadays...well not that bad.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: blake guzman on October 22, 2011, 08:14:47 PM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract. 
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: few123456789 on October 23, 2011, 02:24:47 AM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract. 

Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?). 

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage. 
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Post by: Kristi Yamaguchi on October 23, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.  
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Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).  

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.  
...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: AdrianLopez on October 23, 2011, 04:32:09 PM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.  
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That speaks for PJ. Never has been a drama queen like Berra or Koston, PJ lets his skateing speak. (also we wish he would drop more footy...it has been ages since he dropped a full part)
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).  

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.  
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...or maybe he knows for a fact DC that was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually say something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: masturskater on October 23, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
jesus christ you fucks are annoying
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Post by: 1dxxxx on October 23, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.  
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Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).  

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.  
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...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.

DC was in the wrong? the guy probably made over 6 figures a year to represent DC and he goes on the most publicized website in skateboarding and is wearing another companies shoes? Try going to your job at burger king wearing a taco bell uniform and see if they keep you around. I know this is supposed to be "skateboarding", but nobody would put up with that shit.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Rumpleforeskin on October 23, 2011, 08:56:58 PM
Whenever I read that Tony Hawk autobiography I always get hungry for Taco Bell and Fruitopia
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: mbquant on October 23, 2011, 09:04:09 PM
Whenever I read that Tony Hawk autobiography I always get hungry for Taco Bell and Fruitopia

Bahaha, I read that when it first came out about 10 years ago. I only remembered the Taco Bell part and something about him having groupies chasing him in his hotel room while he was in his early teens. Lucky bastard.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LOU.502 on October 23, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
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Whenever I read that Tony Hawk autobiography I always get hungry for Taco Bell and Fruitopia
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Bahaha, I read that when it first came out about 10 years ago. I only remembered the Taco Bell part and something about him having groupies chasing him in his hotel room while he was in his early teens. Lucky bastard.

dude it was cool in that book hearing about heath and jeremy filming for the end and how nuts they were
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: DGKALIS on October 24, 2011, 01:35:57 AM
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come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!
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Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.  
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Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).  

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.  
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...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.
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DC was in the wrong? the guy probably made over 6 figures a year to represent DC and he goes on the most publicized website in skateboarding and is wearing another companies shoes? Try going to your job at burger king wearing a taco bell uniform and see if they keep you around. I know this is supposed to be "skateboarding", but nobody would put up with that shit.

As far as i know... Pj doesn't have a shoe sponser yet... And I'm not going to publicly put out the situations that happened between them out there. I have a lot of respect for the dude.... As a skater and person, and that's that.
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Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.  
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Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.

That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC.  Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).  

We'll never know, so quit asking.  PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.  
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...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.
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DC was in the wrong? the guy probably made over 6 figures a year to represent DC and he goes on the most publicized website in skateboarding and is wearing another companies shoes? Try going to your job at burger king wearing a taco bell uniform and see if they keep you around. I know this is supposed to be "skateboarding", but nobody would put up with that shit.
Did I ever say DC did anything wrong? How on Earth would I even know that? I just implied that they MIGHT have done something wrong and Kalis wouldn't want to diss them because he still rides for them and everything. Learn how to read you dingbat. None of us up here except DGKalis know what really happened. If he doesn't want to say anything that might make DC seem less than perfect, I understand that. Anything other than what he, PJ, or someone from DC says is pure speculation.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Ghost of Lenny Kirk on October 24, 2011, 01:55:14 PM
let it go man. the video was called pj ladd's wonderful horrible life for a reason.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: [email protected] on October 25, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
i skipped a bunch of shit so this might have already been said but i'm fucking sheckler bitch

the reason that DC gets hate from the shoes that non sk8rz wear and vans doesn't is because the 'i don't skate' DC's are fucking court graphix and other dumb ass looking chongo shoes. The 'idontsk8!' vans are just people rocking normal ass vans like some slips or eras. the people who rock the chongo dc shoes are fuckin chongos and shit dudes who wear metal militia shirts and fucking monster energy drink hates. WHO WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? (i do #sheckler); and the people who rock vans usually dress well and shit. skateboarding is all about fashion anyways so if people fuck with 'OUR' shoes when they dont sk8 as long as they're fashionable like us then we dont care

u  no?

Ryan Sheckler - 420 every day, tupac is alive, only god can judge me
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: LazyEinstein on October 25, 2011, 02:41:10 PM
i skipped a bunch of shit so this might have already been said but i'm fucking sheckler bitch

the reason that DC gets hate from the shoes that non sk8rz wear and vans doesn't is because the 'i don't skate' DC's are fucking court graphix and other dumb ass looking chongo shoes. The 'idontsk8!' vans are just people rocking normal ass vans like some slips or eras. the people who rock the chongo dc shoes are fuckin chongos and shit dudes who wear metal militia shirts and fucking monster energy drink hates. WHO WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? (i do #sheckler); and the people who rock vans usually dress well and shit. skateboarding is all about fashion anyways so if people fuck with 'OUR' shoes when they dont sk8 as long as they're fashionable like us then we dont care

u  no?

Ryan Sheckler - 420 every day, tupac is alive, only god can judge me

I actually started reading your post but randomly phrased out mid way through the second sentence. I think it was a mix of confusion and boredom. In either case, I decided not to continue.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Chipp on October 25, 2011, 05:47:09 PM
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i skipped a bunch of shit so this might have already been said but i'm fucking sheckler bitch

the reason that DC gets hate from the shoes that non sk8rz wear and vans doesn't is because the 'i don't skate' DC's are fucking court graphix and other dumb ass looking chongo shoes. The 'idontsk8!' vans are just people rocking normal ass vans like some slips or eras. the people who rock the chongo dc shoes are fuckin chongos and shit dudes who wear metal militia shirts and fucking monster energy drink hates. WHO WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? (i do #sheckler); and the people who rock vans usually dress well and shit. skateboarding is all about fashion anyways so if people fuck with 'OUR' shoes when they dont sk8 as long as they're fashionable like us then we dont care

u  no?

Ryan Sheckler - 420 every day, tupac is alive, only god can judge me
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I actually started reading your post but randomly phrased out mid way through the second sentence. I think it was a mix of confusion and boredom. In either case, I decided not to continue.


tsss tss you really are like lazy they should like call you like the lazeinsteinberg or sumfin' tss tss
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Bryan Muller on October 29, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line.  Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more  & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FiftyScent on October 29, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line.  Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more  & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...


LOL @ that being your first post.

whos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards? quality skate shoes are what belong on skateboards & thats what they make. period. a fucking non-SB nike dunk has more skate shoe qualities than a vans era or authentic, so i aint tryna hear that shit. at the end of the day its all about quality & performance. people are gonna buy what works.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: mbquant on October 29, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
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Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line.  Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more  & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...
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LOL @ that being your first post.

whos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards? quality skate shoes are what belong on skateboards & thats what they make. period. a fucking non-SB nike dunk has more skate shoe qualities than a vans era or authentic, so i aint tryna hear that shit. at the end of the day its all about quality & performance. people are gonna buy what works.

It's sad but true. I was really against Adidas making skate shoes at first, but after having a few pairs of Lakai fall apart within a few sessions, I decided to give the Busenitz a try and they outlasted any shoe I've ever had. I have some cognitive dissonance about skating Adidas because I'd love to support core companies, but it's hard to keep throwing money away on low quality shoes. I'm fully up for suggestions if anyone has had a different experience with other skateboarding companies, but for now I'm sticking with what works.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Tale Crab on October 29, 2011, 02:38:35 PM
whos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards?
Me.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: GarglesCmen on October 29, 2011, 07:19:39 PM
Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line.  Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more  & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...

I am gonna buy the product where I get the most bang for my buck. Dishing out on buying some SB's is a good investment since they out perform most shoes on the market today. It is quality that that makes the difference n the end.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: tobal on October 30, 2011, 02:26:35 AM
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Me.

6.0 for all of you Nike lovers. Skateboarding !
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: sebastian on October 30, 2011, 03:11:42 AM
so how about guys like kenny anderson amongst others skateboarding with converse way back in the day? i mean converse are basically skate shoes, with or without the fact that now they have a skate team. same with nike and adidas, who made some of the most skateable shoes before even starting a skateboard team. i remember my first shoes i skated in being some random non-skate shoes from a department store, and they were awesome.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: bakedRice on October 30, 2011, 10:54:40 AM
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Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line.  Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more  & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...
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I am gonna buy the product where I get the most bang for my buck. Dishing out on buying some SB's is a good investment since they out perform most shoes on the market today. It is quality that that makes the difference n the end.

i hate to say this, but your post has given me another, albeit way more cynical view, on core companies. one could say that these older pros now who own these core show companies are just milking the industry. now hear me out. pros back then skated in nikes, and cons, alot, plus a bunch of other shoe brands that are now defunct. now that they have grown older and do not have the revenue from their career, they propose a "core" show company thats "for skaters, by skaters." the one thing i always hated was that after some guy whos been skating his whole life and doesnt know anything else except being a 15 year old forever starts a company, hes transformed into a business man and great product designer. its like if lebron quit in 10 years and makes his own shoes, chances are theyre gonna be shit compared to nikes and adidas', because those guys make SHOES. you cant argue against quality. i know we all love to champion our pros and see them still skating, but cmon, you know in their mind theres at least the thought where they CANT leave the skate industry and try to find a way to stay in, where they make product. as much as we hate capitalism, the whole industry is built on capitalism and selling your name, and thats why the core argument is weak, you vote with your dollar, get the most for it. im not buying manchesters so they rip in 2 weeks and mike and rickk get to sell their 15dollar slippers for the same price as quality shoes, neither am i getting an omit shirt, the worst is vans, they are corporate with core aesthetics.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: jimi420 on October 30, 2011, 12:20:26 PM
i'm fucking sheckler
That's all I got out of what you said.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: VictoriousOG on October 30, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
If Mountain/BA is down for Nike, Gonz for Adidas, and Kenny A for Cons, then I'm down for them as well. RIP to eS but every SoleTech shoe I try on feels like shit.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: 360 frip on October 30, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BraveUlysses on October 30, 2011, 05:10:30 PM
If Mountain/BA is down for Nike, Gonz for Adidas, and Kenny A for Cons, then I'm down for them as well. RIP to eS but every SoleTech shoe I try on feels like shit.
A lot of people will be down for a lot of things if you throw a lot of money at em. Also this would be the perfect time for Lakai to bump Karl up
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: mbquant on October 30, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
Even with everyone leaving, Lakai still has a pretty good team. I especially like seeing Raven tear it up. Their shoes still look pretty good and I'd love to keep supporting them. It's just that their quality has fallen through the floor. I bought a pair of the Mike Mo shoes and they literally fell apart the first day. The air thing in the sole fell out within hours. I glued it back in, but the rest of them went to shit by day 2. Even if they still had the Fully Flared team, I wouldn't want to pay for their shoes. I haven't worn DC in over a decade, so I'm not sure if their quality is any better.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Kristi Yamaguchi on November 01, 2011, 12:18:15 PM
Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on November 01, 2011, 12:47:00 PM
I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.

you have friends who work at zumiez corporate? dude, you're such a sell out, you should only have "core" friends.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on November 01, 2011, 12:50:09 PM
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Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
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Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: SLABGates on November 01, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\

Vans is owned by wrangler. CCS is owned by footlocker. and converse is owned by nike.

and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: dipsteeze on November 01, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
Sucks so bad hes on DC when I see him which is usually like everyday I always lick the bottom of his shoes and Lakai's taste way better than DC's this news changed and affected my life tremendously "I" havent been the same since
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: FiftyScent on November 01, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
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Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
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Vans is owned by wrangler. CCS is owned by footlocker. and converse is owned by nike.

and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: InternetDaddy on November 01, 2011, 03:04:07 PM
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Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
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Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
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i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.
why so much Emerica hate?
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: BDF on November 01, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
Vans is owned by wrangler. CCS is owned by footlocker. and converse is owned by nike.

and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.

vans is owned by the vf corporation who also own wrangler and eastpak among others...
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Tarela on November 01, 2011, 03:25:33 PM
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Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
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Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
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i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.
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why so much Emerica hate?

That's what im saying i love the Hsu's i bought like 4 pairs this year woulda got more but they sold out :( , i cant wait for this thin shoes era to die not that i miss the bulky/tech shits all that much either
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: gutterhead. on November 01, 2011, 03:27:38 PM
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Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
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Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
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i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.
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why so much Emerica hate?
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That's what im saying i love the Hsu's i bought like 4 pairs this year woulda got more but they sold out :( , i cant wait for this thin shoes era to die not that i miss the bulky/tech shits all that much either

Emericas are some of the thinnest shoes i have ever skated, so i'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: hekkahyphy on November 01, 2011, 06:02:40 PM
cant believe people can walk into a ccs or zumiez and want to buy something. not only are they not a skateshop but standing in those stores sUCKS in itself. i remember i just wanted to see what the hype on the nike kostons was and all the workers started tryna upsell me hardware and shyut.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: VictoriousOG on November 01, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
I heard every time you walk into Zumiez, Pappalardo loses a trick.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: scorpion1001 on November 01, 2011, 11:01:50 PM
if you're basing your hate on the vulcs then thats understandable, since their tread pattern doesnt last for shit.  Emerica cupsoles are some of the best skate shoes you can get though.  Fallen is a whole different story, I have yet to skate a pair of fallens that I'm unhappy with.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: gutterhead. on November 01, 2011, 11:16:23 PM
I'm talking all Emericas, I had the AR slims and they were great for the first week... but then the sole thinned out and felt just as bad as the vulcs. Lets just say I haven't really had any good experiences with Emericas.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: via on November 02, 2011, 12:25:40 AM
Edit - blackout drunk post. I'm taking it back. I'm taking them all back.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Mouth on November 02, 2011, 06:34:10 AM
A shoe is a fucking shoe.

You guys get cornier by the day.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: jhskates84 on November 02, 2011, 07:01:20 AM
I heard every time you walk into Zumiez, Pappalardo loses a trick.

I could see this, I could see this!  Haha

But nah...  Mike Mo seems like a perfect candidate for Droors Clothing Footwear if you think about it?  It makes slight bit of sense if they're trying to catch up with Nike SB on par with the 'perfect' skate team.  But regardless to where he goes, I'm sure he's reaping a greater benefit than Lakai, no offense to anyone.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: china white on November 02, 2011, 07:12:39 AM
yes, so when i said fallen and emerica, especially the latter, i mistyped, and meant especially the former. i suppose some emerica models aren't that bad (although given the choice, wouldn't wear them), i was more trying to make a point than call out just two specific shoe companies.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Omamori on November 02, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
I'm talking all Emericas, I had the AR slims and they were great for the first week... but then the sole thinned out and felt just as bad as the vulcs. Lets just say I haven't really had any good experiences with Emericas.
Sole tech vulcs are trash, get the cupsoles.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Baron von Bullshit on November 02, 2011, 04:22:12 PM
and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.

This is true, but not always possible for everyone out there. When you have to travel sixty plus miles to your nearest shop it's easier and cheaper to order from ccs or skatewarehouse. It's unfortunate, but it's a reality for the skaters in the less developed areas of the country.  Not to mention the Markup on these shoes(or any product) at these shops is kind  of regular.  For a short time we had a small shop in my little ass town. They were selling pro graphic decks for sixty-nine bucks, plus ten for griptape. Yes, you had to buy griptape. The place didn't last very long.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: Radbloke on November 02, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
I've just blown out a pair of the new Emerica Hsu II's. They've lasted longer than any pair of shoes I've had recently besides a pair of Adidas. Comfy, not super thin, good colours, not super pricey. What's not to like? I just pulled the trigger on some of the Westgates, if they're as good I'll be getting more for sure.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: The Ghost of Lenny Kirk on November 03, 2011, 07:37:48 AM
i agree with the tread comments but in general theyre great shoes. i get the emerica laced the new leos and the occasional reynolds 3 and theyre all amazing fucking shoes. ive never felt a need to go out of my way and buy nikes. they basically look as good as the some of the gravis shoes and its actually skater owned and its been there through the late 90s and early 2000s and they actually skate good. emerica also has an actual style direction which is more than i can say for a lot of other shoe companies that are around these days. theyre also cheaper than nikes. theyre worth the money you pay and i like what i get.
Title: Re: Mike Mo on DC
Post by: 1dxxxx on November 03, 2011, 12:50:29 PM
I heard every time you walk into Zumiez, Pappalardo loses a trick.

Although, everytime you widdle a piece of beachwood into a bench, he gains it back