No surprises here. I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well. So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year. The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.
No surprises here. I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well. So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year. The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.
Don't really care; I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
Expand QuoteNo surprises here. I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well. So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year. The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.[close]
There last good shoes I remeber where the linx and some early kalis models, since then its been a straight downfall as materials, skateability and design
lol.... you guys are funny. ;D
I know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.
Adidas still has the best skate team and the best skate shoe.This.
This.Expand QuoteAdidas still has the best skate team and the best skate shoe.[close]
Expand QuoteI know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.[close]
if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.[close]
if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??[close]
Honestly, I usually buy whatever skate shoes I can find cheap, whether its online or I can get a good deal at my not so local shop. I wont buy just any shoe. I generally prefer shoes, like the DC Tonik, Fallen Forte, vans chukka lows, and Ive had 2 pairs of Janoskis that I really liked also. No I probably wouldnt have bought the Toniks if they were full price but that goes for the same with any shoe. I hardly ever buy a shoe for full price, but after skating the toniks I would definitely choose them over chukka lows, or the fallen fortes, thats for sure. Even though all 3 of them pretty much skate the same, the toniks are holding up a lot better then the other two.
Don't really care;? I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
But if your going to hate on shoes for their quality then you should also hate equally... Lakai manchesters are great to skate in for a few sessions but then they turn into giant bags of crap (i stopped wearing them because of this... Please make better shoes lakai)
me tooExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI know a lot of people hate on what DC has become, and I dont really like the fact that they are buying themselves an allstar line up, and kicking people like Pj off. But everyone saying they only make shit shoes need to skate a pair of the Toniks, I bought a pair cause they were on sale for $20 and they are holding up well, and skate really good also. Theres also a few other models they have out that dont look bad either. The Bristols and landaus, both look like they would be good to skate. I mean there are other companies that I would rather support like Fallen, Lakai, and emerica. Its just hard to support them when the last couple pairs of lakais I have bought have basically fallen apart at the seams, and I bought a pair of fallen fortes recently and they skated really awesome until the sole started falling to pieces, but that was my first pair of fallens so maybe I just got a bum pair or something.[close]
if you could choose from every skate shoe currently available (being an unsponsored skater) i dont see a single reason why i should choose any DC shoe. Its like that with so many companies, YES of course the make a couple of decent looking shoes, but they all look like each other. black, vulc, low profile. why not get the original or something that sticks out like the janoski, the cts pro, the campus or an old skool. if the tonic werent on sale, would you really buy it??[close]
Honestly, I usually buy whatever skate shoes I can find cheap, whether its online or I can get a good deal at my not so local shop. I wont buy just any shoe. I generally prefer shoes, like the DC Tonik, Fallen Forte, vans chukka lows, and Ive had 2 pairs of Janoskis that I really liked also. No I probably wouldnt have bought the Toniks if they were full price but that goes for the same with any shoe. I hardly ever buy a shoe for full price, but after skating the toniks I would definitely choose them over chukka lows, or the fallen fortes, thats for sure. Even though all 3 of them pretty much skate the same, the toniks are holding up a lot better then the other two.[close]
I personally prefer sandals when I skate.
Don't really care; I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.
Expand QuoteDon't really care; I stopped buying their shit after the DC Lynx ended.[close]
Oh how I miss those.
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
Hmmmmm, i smell a "DC Video 2" in the works....
...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there
god skateboarding is turning into a fucking joke... like a god damn government...HOLY SHIT BRO SO EDGY ::)
buying out all the money makers so in the future you have no choice but to support shit
what a fucking joke this year of sponsorship has been... jesus fucking christ fucking stupid
No surprises here. I'm predicting Nyjah will be on by the time Street League is over, Torey will be on once Lakai fully leaves Podium and DVS fully reinvests all its money in producing the "Enduro" shoe for CCS/Journeys/PacSun, Sheckler will probably be offered an amount Etnies can't afford to match, and we all know that Shane will be jumping once his contract is up as well. So 9 out of 10 of last week finalists at Street League are already on or primed to join DC within the next year. The funniest part is that having all of these riders will not increase their shoe sales one bit.
Expand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
Expand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude
Expand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.[close]
Kalis just said he had a new shoe coming out...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.[close]
Kalis just said he had a new shoe coming out...
Dudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?that's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.
And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...
that's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.Expand QuoteDudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?
And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...[close]
DC = hitler.
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
weather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe(http://diggingalot.org/diggingalot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rain-weather-460_790478c.jpg)
:D(http://diggingalot.org/diggingalot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rain-weather-460_790478c.jpg)Expand Quoteweather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe[close]
Are you kidding me? That's about as true a statement as you can get. If I saw a businessman in his work clothes, wearing some jordan 3s I would judge him differently than a dude wearing the same outfit with oxfords. Duh.Expand Quotethat's one of the dumbest things i've ever read.Expand QuoteDudes, please pardon my ignorance in such matters, but could someone fill me in on why PJ either quit, or got kicked off, DC?
And, as far as shoes go, I wish I could support strictly skate related companies, but wearing cons and adidas allows me to skate in a shoe that performs well and doesn't make me look like a 14 year old. As someone who is slightly over 30, I feel like that is of great importance, and where my priorities lie...[close][close]
You are over 30 and still think people judge you by what shoes you have on your feet? Yikes..........
If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.This
If someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.
ThisExpand QuoteIf someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.[close]
http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
Expand Quotehttp://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)[close]
"besides Cairo"... harsh.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.
DC is currently everything i hate about skateboarding
Expand QuoteSteve Berra is currently everything i hate about skateboarding[close]
dekline
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.[close]
Wrong.... My new shoe is done and is so sick!
Taking the shoe game to a new level. I really wish i could leak the photo's.. but i have to wait. Its the best cross between slim/clean toe.. with a cup sole that has the technology to prevent heal bruises. Its real sick.
hahahaExpand Quotehttp://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)[close]
"besides Cairo"... harsh.
hahahaExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)[close]
"besides Cairo"... harsh.[close]
;D:DExpand Quote(http://diggingalot.org/diggingalot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rain-weather-460_790478c.jpg)Expand Quoteweather you like it or not. kid's gonna buy mo's DC shoe[close][close]
I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.
I wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?
Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.Expand QuoteI wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?[close]
Dude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.Expand QuoteI wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?[close]
Expand QuoteThisExpand QuoteIf someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�[close][close]
You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.
http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)
Expand QuoteDude is young and probably doesn't feel like he could ever make enough money (you could always have more). It's probably pretty hard to be like 22, and have some dude in your ear telling you how many millions you could be making if you just wore a different pair of shoes.Expand QuoteI wish we knew the offers DC was throwing out there. If I was on Lakai or Fallen skating with those dudes the only other place id see myself wanting to be is Emerica. How hard could it be to tell DC no?[close][close]
and always having that thought of retiring with 30 in your mind.. or even less, if you can actually handle money and dont go crazy. i mean, if someone offered me a substantial amount of money for doing what i love, i sure wouldnt know how i would act. of course its easy for me to blame MikeMo for that, because i know that it will never happen to me and so i can always act like i wouldnt do it. also, i am on a messageboard in the internet, so i basically have to hate.
but i still hope that he will get his money somewhere else. maybe.
Maybe your heron use has clouded your judgement, lakai/dc/emerica all make super slim simple shoes, unless you are really just buying for the brand name.
I could see any of the Sole Tech guys going. Been hearing they are having some major money issues.its mainly just etnies and that thirty two snowboarding shit.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThisExpand QuoteIf someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�[close][close]
You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.[close]
No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.
Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.
And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason. Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche. But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThisExpand QuoteIf someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�[close][close]
You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.[close]
No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.
Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.
And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason. Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche. But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.[close]
Just get a pair of Allen Edmonds and you'll be covered. I suppose that if you could only wear one shoe for business/interviews/skateboarding/etc. I'd go for something a little more conservative than Adidas (I'll always associate that brand with Korn) or Cons--perhaps a Gravis Dylan in black.
you must be one of the few people in america who still thinks about/associates anything with Korn.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThisExpand QuoteIf someone wants to form some kind of judgment about me based entirely on what shoes I'm wearing, I could give a shit less what that idiot thinks about anything.�[close][close]
You will be judged by what you're wearing at any real job interview you will ever have.[close]
No, common DanDan, immediately allow real life to take the back seat, and wear puffy tongued skate shoes to any, and every, social and business situation you'll ever find yourself in for the rest of your life, and if things start to go south for you after the age of 25, merely raise your middle finger at the rest of the world, laugh, and generally just don't give a fuck.
Unlike Mr. DanDan, some of the people in here seem to be pretty detached from reality in a serious way. These people may be in for some hard knocks, and a few disappointments, along the way.
And to further address the highly intelligent and worldly individuals who didn't seem to appreciate my now highly controversial remark about opting to wear adidas and cons, because i prefer not to look like a 14yo, well, yes, that's still true. Skateboarding is merely one facet of my life, as it tends to become increasingly marginalized with age, responsibility, and other interests, and if that wasn't enough of a reason to NOT wear fallen, DC, Lakai, DVS, or Emerica etc. shoes on, or off, a board, then aesthetics easily are enough of a reason. Also, it's less about how people who I don't even know, or care about, would judge me, but it's more of a personal choice to not look like a douche. But, no, once again you are right, I should just resign myself to looking like a douche for the rest of my life, or at least the for-see-able future, as Scorpion1001 and Cold Pizza have done, just for the sake of supporting skater run/owned companies.[close]
Just get a pair of Allen Edmonds and you'll be covered. I suppose that if you could only wear one shoe for business/interviews/skateboarding/etc. I'd go for something a little more conservative than Adidas (I'll always associate that brand with Korn) or Cons--perhaps a Gravis Dylan in black.
When they make a deal that big - $5m over 5 years , or something similar - do you think that DC puts in an easy termination clause? like, "we don't think you are getting enough fotty, so, terminate." I wonder if he would do better in the long run to stay with guys that might keep him around longer. then again, it's not like the Crail fam did Mike York any favors, so why would they for Mike Mo?
Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.
holy shit. i was just about to say something about that. what a low blow to cairo.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/ (http://n-sb.org/10841/mike-mo-leaves-lakai-for-dc/news/)[close]
"besides Cairo"... harsh.[close]
shots fired
Normally i would stay out of a conversation like this... but there are a few things i got to say.
Its one thing to not like a company.. or their riders.. but to be so naive about what is really going on and spreading false info is pretty crazy.
Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.
Im not going to get into any DC/Mike Mo talk... thats still under speculation.. and if it comes true.. thats for either Mo or DC to release.
However, Have you ever sat back and wondered that maybe companies don't always approach the skater. That maybe the skater approaches the company?? Sure DC may approach people.. but there are MANY folks coming to DC every day trying to get on. And for good reason.
Over the years... when pro shoes were popping up big time... DC always treated the rider with a fair royalty. That means the skater ACTUALLY got paid a decent percent of the shoe that sold with their name on it. Well.. come to find out.. there was A TON of dudes in the shoe world getting ripped the fuck off. Making 3 times LESS than the industry standard. Those dudes are some of YOUR favorite skaters. The companies actually paid them in cents per shoe sold. Thats fucked. Dudes that deserved way more money because of sales... weren't getting it. DC NEVER has ripped off any rider. Ever.
So reading some of you alls statements about DC being lame or wack, or whatever... they take care of their people. And there are alot of guys that want and need to be taken care of. But instead... they sit back and get ripped off.
One example i'll give you... One of the hottest selling shoes right now is a pro who s cool as fuck. He deserves every bit of royalty. But the company he rides for decided to make the identical shoe WITHOUT his name on it. Why? To under cut him? I don't know.. but to me thats fucked. And that is something DC would never even consider. Shit... your probably wearing the shoe right now. lol.
Anyway... There is a lot more than a paycheck when it comes down to riding for DC. Its loyalty. Not only from the skater.. but from the company. And for the dudes who have been cut in the past... well you have to be fucking up for quite a long time, with MANY warnings of getting your shit together before that happens. But at the end of the day... if you can't produce whats asked.. you will get fired. Just like in the real world.
side note, those brown/orange janoski's are fake.
side note, those brown/orange janoski's are fake.
they def need to bring back dem dc lynx joints. i wanna get my brian wenning on and switch back tail on benches n shit b.This is my favorite post today.
ayo kalis i know you b readin dis shit. tell dem niggas at dc to chill with the bullshit and bring back the lynx.....and i'll let dat ridiculousness shit with dyrdick slide nahmean.
so when is DC gonna rerelease some dc lynx?
also tate and josh, what's the story behind the number 7 and dc?
thanks.
tell dem niggas at dc to chill with the bullshit and bring back the lynx
Normally i would stay out of a conversation like this... but there are a few things i got to say.
Its one thing to not like a company.. or their riders.. but to be so naive about what is really going on and spreading false info is pretty crazy.
Monty Burns...
Dyrdek has done so much for so many skaters. Not to mention all the consulting he has done for some of YOUR favorite companies. Getting skaters deals that have nothing to do with him, helping young dudes about to make bad decisions make better ones, helping companies with business plans, and even marketing strategies... the list goes on and on. I know you probably can't see through his TV fame.. and the money he's bringing in... he's doing a lot. Fuck.. just the Plaza's alone are enough for you to respect the dude.
Im not going to get into any DC/Mike Mo talk... thats still under speculation.. and if it comes true.. thats for either Mo or DC to release.
However, Have you ever sat back and wondered that maybe companies don't always approach the skater. That maybe the skater approaches the company?? Sure DC may approach people.. but there are MANY folks coming to DC every day trying to get on. And for good reason.
Over the years... when pro shoes were popping up big time... DC always treated the rider with a fair royalty. That means the skater ACTUALLY got paid a decent percent of the shoe that sold with their name on it. Well.. come to find out.. there was A TON of dudes in the shoe world getting ripped the fuck off. Making 3 times LESS than the industry standard. Those dudes are some of YOUR favorite skaters. The companies actually paid them in cents per shoe sold. Thats fucked. Dudes that deserved way more money because of sales... weren't getting it. DC NEVER has ripped off any rider. Ever.
So reading some of you alls statements about DC being lame or wack, or whatever... they take care of their people. And there are alot of guys that want and need to be taken care of. But instead... they sit back and get ripped off.
One example i'll give you... One of the hottest selling shoes right now is a pro who s cool as fuck. He deserves every bit of royalty. But the company he rides for decided to make the identical shoe WITHOUT his name on it. Why? To under cut him? I don't know.. but to me thats fucked. And that is something DC would never even consider. Shit... your probably wearing the shoe right now. lol.
Anyway... There is a lot more than a paycheck when it comes down to riding for DC. Its loyalty. Not only from the skater.. but from the company. And for the dudes who have been cut in the past... well you have to be fucking up for quite a long time, with MANY warnings of getting your shit together before that happens. But at the end of the day... if you can't produce whats asked.. you will get fired. Just like in the real world.
Psyched . I hate all these fucking boat shoes these days...I will buy some Kalis shoes.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote...i remember the ryan smith 1.5 being pretty damn good and the gatsbys too. Not gonna lie most dcs last forever believe it or not. Lakais are the shit but sometimes u get your models that fall apart in a week and sometimes u get some that last u a month. Even if Adiddas and Nike are big brands that people regard as sellouts, theres no question they are made at a higher quality than any skate shoe out there[close]
Adidas and Nike make the best skate shoes out there . They have bigger teams , more experiance , better materials and better everything .
And its kinda funny that DC that started out as a skate shoe brand and still is gets more hate then Adidas and Nike together . DC might sell shit to alot of none skaters . But atleast this allows a budget for parks , contests , bigger and better team and more money for them.
They still have Kalis , his pro shoes have always looked good and Ill always down to give money to that dude[close]
Have to give your money to DGK, Silver and that sunglasses thing. No more DGKalis pro models.[close]
Wrong.... My new shoe is done and is so sick!
Taking the shoe game to a new level. I really wish i could leak the photo's.. but i have to wait. Its the best cross between slim/clean toe.. with a cup sole that has the technology to prevent heal bruises. Its real sick.
yeah whats up with the Cairo hate?
I would prolly respect DC more if they has always stayed true to skating, after all they started in skating which puts them above nike sb and adidas in that aspect. However I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding which is what i'm looking to spend money on and put on my feet. shit i dont even know if my local shop carries DC which puts them outta the question before anything.
Expand Quoteso when is DC gonna rerelease some dc lynx?
also tate and josh, what's the story behind the number 7 and dc?
thanks.[close]
I assume the 7 is because the DC stands for 43, as in Droors 43 clothing. 4+3=7. That is my hypothesis. Perhaps someone can form their own equation and either prove or disprove said hypothesis.
Expand Quoteyeah whats up with the Cairo hate?
I would prolly respect DC more if they has always stayed true to skating, after all they started in skating which puts them above nike sb and adidas in that aspect. However I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding which is what i'm looking to spend money on and put on my feet. shit i dont even know if my local shop carries DC which puts them outta the question before anything.[close]
That's a pretty sad comparison. DC branched OUT of skateboarding. Nike and Adidads branched IN to skateboarding. I've never been a fan of DC's products or aesthetic. But, I will be the first to admit it started in skateboarding and is more of a skateboarding company than your precious Nike and Adidas are. Have fun wearing them shits all the way to Walmart to pick up your future complete.
I've just seen way too many DC shoes that are clearly aimed towards monster drinking goth/mall kids where atleast nike sb and adidas make pretty quality shoes for skateboarding
Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.
if kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.
Expand Quoteif kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.[close]
Meh ,its weird just having� made the wrong impression of one of your favourit skaters . Kinda hope Kalis knows what I mean and I ment it not in a negative way .
Ive bought kalis boards and shoes since way back . And Im sure Ill buy his new Pro Model shoe too
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteif kalis says its gonna be some good shit, then i am looking forward to his shoe. i just hope it has a really, really small, maybe removable DC-logo.[close]
Meh ,its weird just having� made the wrong impression of one of your favourit skaters . Kinda hope Kalis knows what I mean and I ment it not in a negative way .
Ive bought kalis boards and shoes since way back . And Im sure Ill buy his new Pro Model shoe too[close]
Im not offended at all... Don't worry about that shit!! We're only talking shit over here!! lol.
Little debate style. Shit.. it can be spooky throwing my two cents on the net.
But i understand where your coming from... trust me. There is shit cracking off in the skate world that makes 0 sense to me too. Actually upsets me to the point where i will hate on some shit. Its a fucked up time out there right now. We need Kelch, Sanch, Clyde, the old Bird, and a few others to step in and be like..... "WAIT A FUCKING SECOND!!!!!!" lol.
the stevie williams was the second skate shoe i ever had and i had the lynx a couple times before they discontinued them. by the way, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? DC had a surefire classic and just decided to scrap it? it would be like if vans got rid of the old school; nike/the dunk; addidas/the campus; etc. thats some weird decision making.
(http://image.rakuten.co.jp/kinetics-tokyo/cabinet/00830346/dc-tonik630.jpg)
you guys dont know what you're talking 'bout. try these
Expand QuoteI don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.[close]
There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.
Expand QuoteI don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.[close]
There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.
The Lynx were a great shoe, but I'd never buy DCs in this day and age.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.[close]
There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.[close]
You are aware that Soletech includes the 32 snowboarding brand...aren't you?
My facts are hazy but didn't they essentially grow outwardly in the same manner as DC? They've just broken things up into different brands under the same umbrella- skate/apparel/snow instead of keeping one label? The hatred is quite comical when you think about it.
I mainly skate eS as it is, and after seeing those dudes get fucked over, if you hear someone like Kalis saying that there are actually brands that take care of their people, it's hard to be that negative.[close]
I sure am, that's why I mentioned the Sole Tech thing... It'd be sick if Emerica was just on their own. I back them, a lot to do with their ass kicking team.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't get the DC hate. I really don't. They have moto-x and snowboarding teams and so on.[close]
There's one of the reasons. Buy Emerica, even though they are under Sole Tech they are the ultimate shoe company.
The Lynx were a great shoe, but I'd never buy DCs in this day and age.[close]
I know! Standing alone, that quote of mine is so bad haha! But, my point is, how can people call Vans, Nike and so on 'core' when they are doing the same thing. Im not backing moto-x at all, but either way a lot of the 'core' brands are doing it as well without getting any trouble for it.
I know Emerica isn't sponsoring moto-x and so on, but as you said they are under Soletech. Soletech has snowboard and BMX brands as well. Even Etnies has a snowboard and bmx team. But yeah, I understand your point, I just think its strange with DC getting all the hate, while the other companies seems to get away with it.[close]
Yeah, for sure. I never wear Vans but you're right with people's attitudes towards them. Really there's probably the same amount, if not more, people wearing Vans who don't skate compared to DC. D
I just don't think DC will ever be what they were in like early 2000s. They were actually my very first descent shoe and they skated pretty well, plus they released a video a few years later(AVE 's part!). What are they doing now? Lots of ads with all these power moves but are they actually filming for a video or anything? Even with their team now I don't think many people care.
Nike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.
Expand QuoteNike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.[close]
Ha - we're talking about Nike - they know how to get those hooks in deep. Sure they can make a Stefan Mid, Velcro, Etc - but if the company can make/market BASICALLY the same shoe - AND not have to pay the royalty to Stefan - why wouldn't they do it? This is just pure business sense - reaping the most profit from a tried and true product that sells.
The old team edition's sucked - the ones that looked like the Osiris D3's. Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. You gotta realize these are also for people who can't pay the extra money for a Janoski - I'd bet the price difference between the Janoski and the Team Edition would be around $30 or $40 - something in that range. Sometimes that's all the price break you need to turn a customer away. You know how cheap vans are - that customer would probably go for something like a Chukka low for $50 - now Nike can take that market share with the Team Edition. I haven't skated a pair - but If they skate like Janoski and can hook a young kid up - there's a silver lining, right?
and I would have to bet - Janoski gets some sick royalty check in the mail each month. You don't think Johnny Layton doesn't get one each month for his Jay Lay's in Zumies or Pac Sun? Sure he does. As to percentages on each shoe, who knows - but the sales seem pretty powerful. You know what I mean - you see everyone on the scene with Janoski's.
I'll put it to you like this - When those awful bombings / Shootings went off in Oslo back in July - I was looking at the photos on a UK site, and a dude is rocking the Janoski's right in the middle of the carnage.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg)
I don't know if I did the image right - scroll down to the RED EMT Guys with the guy in the Tan Jacket.
My two Cents...
Quote from: The Nose Face link=topic=53309.msg1547399#msg1547399 date=1319124219Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNike has made Team Editions for years and this is just the 3rd model. Why would anybody think that it was an intentional move to hurt a team rider? The low top, thin vulc shoes are still popular so Nike is trying to make another shoe that will sell well. They're not trying to make something that will cannibalize their own product. If they really wanted to scrub Janoski's royalties from a shoe (which I'm assuming aren't a ton anyway) they'd do it by cutting his percentage down, not competing with their own product.[close]
Ha - we're talking about Nike - they know how to get those hooks in deep. Sure they can make a Stefan Mid, Velcro, Etc - but if the company can make/market BASICALLY the same shoe - AND not have to pay the royalty to Stefan - why wouldn't they do it? This is just pure business sense - reaping the most profit from a tried and true product that sells.
The old team edition's sucked - the ones that looked like the Osiris D3's. Nike figured, Stefan's shoe sells so well - just copy it and give it another name and modify the design slightly. You gotta realize these are also for people who can't pay the extra money for a Janoski - I'd bet the price difference between the Janoski and the Team Edition would be around $30 or $40 - something in that range. Sometimes that's all the price break you need to turn a customer away. You know how cheap vans are - that customer would probably go for something like a Chukka low for $50 - now Nike can take that market share with the Team Edition. I haven't skated a pair - but If they skate like Janoski and can hook a young kid up - there's a silver lining, right?
and I would have to bet - Janoski gets some sick royalty check in the mail each month. You don't think Johnny Layton doesn't get one each month for his Jay Lay's in Zumies or Pac Sun? Sure he does. As to percentages on each shoe, who knows - but the sales seem pretty powerful. You know what I mean - you see everyone on the scene with Janoski's.
I'll put it to you like this - When those awful bombings / Shootings went off in Oslo back in July - I was looking at the photos on a UK site, and a dude is rocking the Janoski's right in the middle of the carnage.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E3D9300000578-741_634x612.jpg)
I don't know if I did the image right - scroll down to the RED EMT Guys with the guy in the Tan Jacket.
My two Cents...[close]
The team edition shoe definitely won't be a 30-40$ price difference from the Janoski shoe. At that point Nike would be dipping into it's retail price, and the differential between the loss of sale and the amount paid to Stefan for royalties would be way the fuck off. If you think his royalty-per-shoe is set about 10 dollars, you're delusional. What I said was the intention of the Team Edition isn't to take royalties away from Stefan. It's because they said "Hey, a low-top, thin vulc shoe is making a lot of money. Let's make another one and see how it does." Team Editions are also not a permanent shoe. They release a few colorways and they dead them. If they honestly wanted to cut Stefan's royalties, they would just do it at the source, rather than risking the revenue on a shoe run that would compete with itself.
I never said I didn't think Johnny Layton doesn't get royalties for his shoe. Every skateboarder with their name on a shoe should get a royalty check for merchandise sold, and if you don't, you negotiated your shit wrong. - http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2011/08/11/nate-sherwood-vs-airspeed-footwear-a-cautionary-tale/)
I see people wearing different pro model skate shoes in different photographs all the time. Because you picked out a pair of Janoski's in a news photo means they're a mass marketed shoe? The point you're making is that - someone was wearing a pair on Janoski's? That's great.
DC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.
I wonder when DC is gonna boot Greg Myers.They already did. Him and Ryan Smith left at the same time. I'm not really a fan of Greg Myers but I thought he would blow the fuck up after his skateboarding is forever part. Seems like his whole career has been him just trying to come up.
They already did. Him and Ryan Smith left at the same time.Expand QuoteI wonder when DC is gonna boot Greg Myers.[close]
Damn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.But that style...
Expand QuoteDC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.[close]
There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.[close]
There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.[close]
Wasn't Smith hurt and unable to skate for a while due to an accident? Did that have anything to do with him getting kicked off? Or let go? or whatever you want to call it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDC kicked out Ryan Smith. Never forget.[close]
There is WAY more to that story... lol. Wenning and Smith basically went through the same shit. It was a two year ordeal... so no. Neither dude "really" got kicked off... they actually made their own choices.[close]
Wasn't Smith hurt and unable to skate for a while due to an accident? Did that have anything to do with him getting kicked off? Or let go? or whatever you want to call it.[close]
yeah thats the story that I got. He got right fucked from some car accident or something that put him out for over a year (might have been a bad skate injury) and dc kicked him off instead of having his back. The story i got from wenning is that he just wasnt putting out any ads/footage and he got dropped due to being lazy (which I understand).
I can back a company that boots riders that never put footage/ads out, but I cant back a company that kicks its riders off if they get a bad injury (which in the nature of skateboarding, can happen to pretty much anyone at almost anytime)
having DGKALIS posting on slap is the best thing ever. You just drops knowledge on all on the bunk rumors going around!
Torey Pudwill's style is way worse and that didn't stop him from becoming a household name. Greg Myers hands are a bit crazy though.GREG MYERS: SKATEBOARDING IS FOREVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIgBfzhWAI#ws)But that style...Expand QuoteDamn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.[close]
What happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.
Expand QuoteWhat happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.[close]
I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
Expand QuoteWhat happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.[close]
I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.[close]
I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.[close]
this is so OT. Kalis! DC should get Ricky O. i know you guys had your issue. but your both hard core street skating skate rats! dude should get some scrizzle.. (was watching the berrics thing part 2).. i'd cop a ricky o DC pro shoe in no seconds flat. hell.. a ricky o colorway even.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.[close]
I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.[close]
i hate to be nosey, but while we're on the subject, whats up with pj as of now? was always one of my favorite skateboarders and i really wish i could see more of him. kind of seems like he really just wants to skate for himself
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat happened to Greg Myers? Why'd he get kicked off? He had weird style but he skated fast and did big shit. I liked it.[close]
I guess I could say that he just kept making all the wrong "real life" decisions... When a door opens... You have to push through it, or you could just sit in the doorway and hope some one pulls you in.[close]
i hate to be nosey, but while we're on the subject, whats up with pj as of now? was always one of my favorite skateboarders and i really wish i could see more of him. kind of seems like he really just wants to skate for himself[close]
Ok for Smith and Myers, we all know what happened with Wenning, BUT WHATS THE DEAL WITH PJ ?
ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:
"Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"
Torey Pudwill's style is way worse and that didn't stop him from becoming a household name. Greg Myers hands are a bit crazy though.GREG MYERS: SKATEBOARDING IS FOREVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIgBfzhWAI#ws)Expand QuoteBut that style...Expand QuoteDamn, well I'm still surprised Greg isn't hooked up properly, his skating is pretty damn good.[close][close]
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ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:
"Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"[close]
no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.
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ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:
"Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"[close]
no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.
come on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj!Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.
Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close]
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ok before kalis drops the real facts, i think its important to state the official slap rumor:
"Pj ladd was ripping off the dc logos on his shoes cause hes a boss, and eventually stopped skating dc's all together (kinda like how he doesnt skate plan b boards) whilst collecting checks. dc found out said peace"[close]
no matter what kalis says, this rumor is better.[close]
True dat!!
Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Out of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close]
Oh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close]
...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.Expand QuoteOh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close][close]
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.
That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC. Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).
We'll never know, so quit asking. PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.
...or maybe he knows for a fact DC that was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually say something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close][close]
That speaks for PJ. Never has been a drama queen like Berra or Koston, PJ lets his skateing speak. (also we wish he would drop more footy...it has been ages since he dropped a full part)
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.
That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC. Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).
We'll never know, so quit asking. PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.[close]
...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close][close]
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.
That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC. Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).
We'll never know, so quit asking. PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.[close]
Whenever I read that Tony Hawk autobiography I always get hungry for Taco Bell and Fruitopia
Expand QuoteWhenever I read that Tony Hawk autobiography I always get hungry for Taco Bell and Fruitopia[close]
Bahaha, I read that when it first came out about 10 years ago. I only remembered the Taco Bell part and something about him having groupies chasing him in his hotel room while he was in his early teens. Lucky bastard.
Expand Quote...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close][close]
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.
That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC. Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).
We'll never know, so quit asking. PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.[close][close]
DC was in the wrong? the guy probably made over 6 figures a year to represent DC and he goes on the most publicized website in skateboarding and is wearing another companies shoes? Try going to your job at burger king wearing a taco bell uniform and see if they keep you around. I know this is supposed to be "skateboarding", but nobody would put up with that shit.
Did I ever say DC did anything wrong? How on Earth would I even know that? I just implied that they MIGHT have done something wrong and Kalis wouldn't want to diss them because he still rides for them and everything. Learn how to read you dingbat. None of us up here except DGKalis know what really happened. If he doesn't want to say anything that might make DC seem less than perfect, I understand that. Anything other than what he, PJ, or someone from DC says is pure speculation.Expand Quote...or maybe he knows for a fact that DC was wrong in this case and doesn't want to speak out against them. God forbid he actually says something negative about the almighty DC Footwear. I guess it makes sense though, you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Whatever.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh man, you can't leave that to speculation. we'll all just assume the worst: PJ wasn't getting enough coverage so someone high up at DC pulled the plug on his contract.Expand QuoteOut of respect for PJ and DC... i leave that to speculation.Expand Quotecome on give us SOMETHING about what happened with pj![close][close][close]
Your guys' take-it-away should be that Kalis refuses to rip PJ and ignored the opportunity to give a reason why he is no longer on DC = Kalis stand-up guy.
That being said, there obviously was a genuine business beef with him and DC. Wasn't coverage -- he had a "Banging'" spot on The Berrics the week he was taken off the DC site (Berra charity?).
We'll never know, so quit asking. PJ Ladd we look forward to your footage.[close][close]
DC was in the wrong? the guy probably made over 6 figures a year to represent DC and he goes on the most publicized website in skateboarding and is wearing another companies shoes? Try going to your job at burger king wearing a taco bell uniform and see if they keep you around. I know this is supposed to be "skateboarding", but nobody would put up with that shit.
i skipped a bunch of shit so this might have already been said but i'm fucking sheckler bitch
the reason that DC gets hate from the shoes that non sk8rz wear and vans doesn't is because the 'i don't skate' DC's are fucking court graphix and other dumb ass looking chongo shoes. The 'idontsk8!' vans are just people rocking normal ass vans like some slips or eras. the people who rock the chongo dc shoes are fuckin chongos and shit dudes who wear metal militia shirts and fucking monster energy drink hates. WHO WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? (i do #sheckler); and the people who rock vans usually dress well and shit. skateboarding is all about fashion anyways so if people fuck with 'OUR' shoes when they dont sk8 as long as they're fashionable like us then we dont care
u no?
Ryan Sheckler - 420 every day, tupac is alive, only god can judge me
Expand Quotei skipped a bunch of shit so this might have already been said but i'm fucking sheckler bitch
the reason that DC gets hate from the shoes that non sk8rz wear and vans doesn't is because the 'i don't skate' DC's are fucking court graphix and other dumb ass looking chongo shoes. The 'idontsk8!' vans are just people rocking normal ass vans like some slips or eras. the people who rock the chongo dc shoes are fuckin chongos and shit dudes who wear metal militia shirts and fucking monster energy drink hates. WHO WANTS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? (i do #sheckler); and the people who rock vans usually dress well and shit. skateboarding is all about fashion anyways so if people fuck with 'OUR' shoes when they dont sk8 as long as they're fashionable like us then we dont care
u no?
Ryan Sheckler - 420 every day, tupac is alive, only god can judge me[close]
I actually started reading your post but randomly phrased out mid way through the second sentence. I think it was a mix of confusion and boredom. In either case, I decided not to continue.
Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line. Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.
With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...
Expand QuoteNike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line. Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.
With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...[close]
LOL @ that being your first post.
whos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards? quality skate shoes are what belong on skateboards & thats what they make. period. a fucking non-SB nike dunk has more skate shoe qualities than a vans era or authentic, so i aint tryna hear that shit. at the end of the day its all about quality & performance. people are gonna buy what works.
whos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards?Me.
Nike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line. Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.
With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...
Me.Expand Quotewhos to say that nike adidas, etc. dont belong on skateboards?[close]
Expand QuoteNike, Adidas, & Converse all have one thing in common. THEY DO NOT BELONG ON A SKATEBOARD! As skaters all we have is ourselves to blame for it. By skateshops/real skaters rocking the swoosh before it was "the shit" we gave Nike the respect & credibility it needed to cash in. Now while the big three brands are struggling to generate enough profit to pay the salaries of top pro's they have plans to whore themselves out even further.
Let's take a moment to reflect on the past decade to properly illustrate how we have let corporate America infect our "sport" as they would refer to it. In the beginning it started off as Nike SB. Exclusive Dunk colorways that sold like crack accompanied by shoes such as E-Cue's, URL's & Angus's that you couldn't pay someone to skate in and sold like shit. Once the skateeshops were enslaved to the brand and demand was strong they brought in 6.0 and blew it out to the malls and razor scooter'ers. Then came"P-Rod by SB" which was Nike's foot in the mall's door. Next step in takeover comes in Spring of 2012 and we all have to look forward to Nike SB's in Zumiez, Journey's, and oh yes....PAC SUN. And when I say SB's in these fine retailers I mean Janoski's, Kostons...the whole line. Oh and it get's better too...I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.
With that said I am all for the Lakai's, Van's, Emerica's, Es' (RIP), and hell even DC's to be successful brands in our industry once again. To see a brand like DC tossing retirement sized contracts at Cole, Mo, & maybe Nyjah or whoever else is a breath of fresh air. If we could get Koston, Janoski, Buzenits, Silas, Kenny, and Trapasso to jump to lejit footwear brands I gaurantee they could sell just as many shoes. Hell, they might even sell more & save a few skateshops in the process because then I could actually justify slipping my foot into their models.. You know skateboarding is at an all time low when brands founded on the sole principal of making products for skateboarders struggle as they go up against corporations with no roots in our culture. If we as skaters don't wake up and support core brands and local shops which are both OWNED BY REAL SKATEBOARDERS neither the shops or the brands are going to stand a chance in the future.
All I ask is that next time you step into your local skate shop think twice before swiping your Mommy's Visa card.
Or maybe it's a good thing... After all without the brainless minions rocking their swoosh's and uniforms there would be nothing seperating the lifer's from the masses.
I'm sure I will get some hate for this so rave on...[close]
I am gonna buy the product where I get the most bang for my buck. Dishing out on buying some SB's is a good investment since they out perform most shoes on the market today. It is quality that that makes the difference n the end.
i'm fucking shecklerThat's all I got out of what you said.
If Mountain/BA is down for Nike, Gonz for Adidas, and Kenny A for Cons, then I'm down for them as well. RIP to eS but every SoleTech shoe I try on feels like shit.A lot of people will be down for a lot of things if you throw a lot of money at em. Also this would be the perfect time for Lakai to bump Karl up
Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.
I have good friends who work at Zumiez corporate (yes it's sad but true) who have confirmed there are exclusive colorways for these stores.
i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.Fallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.Expand QuoteAren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\[close]
Aren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\
Expand QuoteAren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\[close]
Vans is owned by wrangler. CCS is owned by footlocker. and converse is owned by nike.
and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.
why so much Emerica hate?i would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.Expand QuoteFallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.Expand QuoteAren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\[close][close]
Vans is owned by wrangler. CCS is owned by footlocker. and converse is owned by nike.
and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.
why so much Emerica hate?Expand Quotei would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.Expand QuoteFallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.Expand QuoteAren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\[close][close][close]
Expand Quotewhy so much Emerica hate?Expand Quotei would rather skate any semi-skateable non-skate shoe than be caught dead in either of these, especially the latter.Expand QuoteFallen and Emerica make great shoes. I don't know what you're talking about.Expand QuoteAren't Vans Vanity Fair or some super corporation? Skate companies started making crappy shoes early 2000s. Nike and Adidas started to make quality and cleaned up. Sole Tech and Lakai went through an era of making really cheap Vulc crap. I was all for keeping it among the skate companies butt they fuct it :-\[close][close][close][close]
That's what im saying i love the Hsu's i bought like 4 pairs this year woulda got more but they sold out :( , i cant wait for this thin shoes era to die not that i miss the bulky/tech shits all that much either
I heard every time you walk into Zumiez, Pappalardo loses a trick.
I'm talking all Emericas, I had the AR slims and they were great for the first week... but then the sole thinned out and felt just as bad as the vulcs. Lets just say I haven't really had any good experiences with Emericas.Sole tech vulcs are trash, get the cupsoles.
and the best way to support "core" companies is to buy from your local skate shop, not zumiez or online. So stop hating on the capitalist world that you live in and just embrace it...and the nike sb mid.
I heard every time you walk into Zumiez, Pappalardo loses a trick.