Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[cherry]

Security guards are hired to observe and report. Often times they cherry pick situations to play on their own ego. It makes them feel inferior to call a real cop so they escalate problems and u get outcomes like this....

[Dernpop1]

So is the one kid only getting in trouble?

[billy.pepperidge]

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Security guards are hired to observe and report. Often times they cherry pick situations to play on their own ego. It makes them feel inferior to call a real cop so they escalate problems and u get outcomes like this....

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You get outcomes like this when pieces of shirt resort to violence like Neanderthals.

Just go ahead and say the word. Say sleeves.

[Christ Puncher]

Literally security guards are the biggest pussies on the planet. Bunch of cop wanna-be tough guys. FYI if u want to fight a security guard walk across the street and taunt them. Once they hit the sidewalk it’s fair game

Thanks for the heads up... just make sure you check with someone (I don't know, your parents or an elderly person) to make sure assault is legal where you live.

[cherry]

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Security guards are hired to observe and report. Often times they cherry pick situations to play on their own ego. It makes them feel inferior to call a real cop so they escalate problems and u get outcomes like this....

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You get outcomes like this when pieces of shirt resort to violence like Neanderthals.

Situation could’ve ended three ways.  Skaters walk away, everyone’s ok. Security walks away calls cops, everyone is ok or Skaters and security guard physically/verbally escalate each other till someone gets really hurt. It takes two to tango

[cherry]

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Literally security guards are the biggest pussies on the planet. Bunch of cop wanna-be tough guys. FYI if u want to fight a security guard walk across the street and taunt them. Once they hit the sidewalk it’s fair game

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Thanks for the heads up... just make sure you check with someone (I don't know, your parents or an elderly person) to make sure assault is legal where you live.

Fair game as u will both be arrested vs on their property they are the victim©️

[cherry]

But also ask ur grandpa because in some states there is a fair fight clause where u can actually have a cop as a witness. Google it cuz I know most of y’all haven’t been in a library ever. I can make those kinds of generalizations because I learned on the great university of slap today that you only need 6 people for an accurate control group

[billy.pepperidge]

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So is the one kid only getting in trouble?

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I would assume all of them will eventually face some sort of charge. They all willingly left the man to die in the street.

No, perfectly legal.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/florida-teens-no-charges-drowning-man/index.html

[Christ Puncher]

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Literally security guards are the biggest pussies on the planet. Bunch of cop wanna-be tough guys. FYI if u want to fight a security guard walk across the street and taunt them. Once they hit the sidewalk it’s fair game

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Thanks for the heads up... just make sure you check with someone (I don't know, your parents or an elderly person) to make sure assault is legal where you live.

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Fair game as u will both be arrested vs on their property they are the victim©️

Sounds legal to me, but first: are you my dad and if not, how old are you?

[cherry]

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Literally security guards are the biggest pussies on the planet. Bunch of cop wanna-be tough guys. FYI if u want to fight a security guard walk across the street and taunt them. Once they hit the sidewalk it’s fair game

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Thanks for the heads up... just make sure you check with someone (I don't know, your parents or an elderly person) to make sure assault is legal where you live.

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Fair game as u will both be arrested vs on their property they are the victim©️

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Sounds legal to me, but first: are you my dad and if not, how old are you?

Wow great points he he high five

[TheLurper]

Legal advice on SLAP kind of reminds of grandad getting legal advice from Thugnificent.

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[Hypnotoad]

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Hate to be that guy but the security card should have walked away and called the cops. I have friends who work security, if they become suspicious of anyone or think they are in danger they are informed to call the police and not take matters into their own hands.

Obviously those guys should have bailed out when he first told them to leave...... not justifying their behavior but why would that guy go Rambo at 8 kids when he could just call the actual cops who would’ve handled the situation for him.

To flip it, last year I watch some big dude smack the shit out of his girlfriend in a hospital parking lot while 6 security guards did nothing but stand in a circle going stop we called the cops.

A lot of times these security guards play tough guy to skaters because they think they are weak/ not a threat. My uncle was a security guard and got his leg broke fighting a guy. They chose who they act authoritative to

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Hypnotoad, who are your 5 coworkers?
Rick Kane, good joke. Rape is funny.

You are not quoting me, which is unfortunate because that was a solid burn otherwise.

[TMKF]

Shit situation no doubt but most of you are blowing my mind. None of you were there or know what went down. Self defense can be a bitch sometimes. Did the guy deserve this outcome? Definitely not, but do you think this is the outcome anyone wanted or thought was going to happen? It's a freak thing, bad shit happens. If this security guard came in hot and threw the first punch he could've just as well done the same. He should've done his job and called the cops, if he opened the door this was always a possibility. I'm not condoning it, but we are all human beings and imperfect, we all make mistakes...they were made on both sides I'm sure. I've been assaulted by security guards before and hit over the head with a walkie talkie while I was literally filming and my head was down in my viewfinder, I didn't even see it coming. I jumped up and my friend came to my defense and pushed the guy back off, he could've easily have slipped and fell and hit his head on the stairs...or he could've knocked me out with his initial blow and the same fate could've happened to me. I don't think that would've been his intent but this shit happens in the heat of the moment. Everyone leaves the scene, no one thought the dude was gonna die or be badly injured I'm sure. There's two sides to every story and being in these situations over the years I'm sure theres more to it that isn't being publicized. You fucks are so quick to eat your own all it takes is some sad pictures and the other sides story and you fall for it.

[Alois Hitler Jr.]

hope he is dead

[anontechnician]

Pondering if it’s video, advertising, branding, that ultimately led to this. Presumably dudes weren’t exactly there to skate, they came for a clip.

The 2017 thrasher with jason on the cover has an interview with Sean Greene, where he says he broke his neck because he was drunk and didnt want to leave the homies. Could a homie have stayed behind with him? Were they on a filming mission?

[nopes]

The one guy was defending the shit out of himself when he hit the old man laying on the ground.

[cherry]

I don’t think anyone in here is condoning the skaters actions or wish harm on dan. They should’ve walked away.

[johnes]

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Security guards are hired to observe and report. Often times they cherry pick situations to play on their own ego. It makes them feel inferior to call a real cop so they escalate problems and u get outcomes like this....

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You get outcomes like this when pieces of shirt resort to violence like Neanderthals.

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Just go ahead and say the word. Say sleeves.

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Just go ahead and say the word. Say sleeves.

Damn I’m loling irl

[ihatejulio]

The one guy was defending the shit out of himself when he hit the old man laying on the ground.

[SNARFMASTER]

Close sources have told me that one of the guys in the GX crew did stay behind/come back to call for medical attention. He’s not one of the main guys, but does skate with them often and is featured in the videos. From the video, I’m certain he wasn’t involved in the altercation. Not going to disclose his name, but someone did call for help.

Nonetheless this whole thing is fucked and the influence these guys have on skateboarding currently may very well diminish after this is said and done. Especially if those comments get turned back on, which I’m guessing won’t happen for a while.

Plead, come back for round 2 or 3 if you need to, but escalating to violence is the worst. I hope this sets a lot of these feisty ego trippin skaters back into a place of patience and understanding.

[cherry]

look at the current level of skating and people are getting hurt the most interacting with security and random people who take it upon themselves to physically assault skaters.

Drop kicking someone for loitering/skating is excessive force. 

[GeorgeCostanza]

if you defend 8 adult dudes bashing a 60 year old's head in and almost murdering him outside of a fucking bank at a blown out spot, go fuck yourself

[winecrab]

I didn’t watch the video but if the security guard was the one who started getting physical shouldn’t he be charged with assault as well? Sucks that one of the suspects is Brian. He’s the only dude from gx I personally know and I’m sure everyone there that night will be charged as accomplices. They stood by and didn’t report the incident to the police and fled the scene without checking if he was okay. 8 grown men could’ve easily restrained the security guard if he was getting violent. Too bad, I loved the “roll up” video. I hope 2019 is the year a lot of people are going to be exposed for the sketchy shit they’ve done including Chase.

[nasalcrilltobackpaddle]

First, this thread should is prime evidence of the fact that: if you have even half of a brain in your head, you should stay the fuck away from the absolute morons on this message board. It's unfortunate to those of us who love skateboarding, but also know that skaters are probably the last people we'd want to associate ourselves with these days. Most of the idiots on this thread seem to have a 10 year-olds grasp of logic. It's astounding.

Second, instead of all the beyond-stupid hypotheticals being thrown out by you idiots, the better way to evaluate this situation would be to imagine what Jesse is thinking right now. Do you think he's proud that he fucked that security guard up, happy that he defended himself against a fat old man, stoked that he's in county jail with rapists and murderers and gang members?

I'm willing to be that he would give anything to go back and handle that situation in a completely different manner. He went from being in a predatory 8-on-1 situation, to his little bitch ass being prey in a building full of serious criminals, and being denied bail so he has no way out. Bro is probably crying himself to sleep at night. 

[Allen.]

First, this thread should is prime evidence of the fact that: if you have even half of a brain in your head, you should stay the fuck away from the absolute morons on this message board. It's unfortunate to those of us who love skateboarding, but also know that skaters are probably the last people we'd want to associate ourselves with these days. Most of the idiots on this thread seem to have a 10 year-olds grasp of logic. It's astounding.

Second, instead of all the beyond-stupid hypotheticals being thrown out by you idiots, the better way to evaluate this situation would be to imagine what Jesse is thinking right now. Do you think he's proud that he fucked that security guard up, happy that he defended himself against a fat old man, stoked that he's in county jail with rapists and murderers and gang members?

I'm willing to be that he would give anything to go back and handle that situation in a completely different manner. He went from being in a predatory 8-on-1 situation, to his little bitch ass being prey in a building full of serious criminals, and being denied bail so he has no way out. Bro is probably crying himself to sleep at night.

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Jesse Vieira was defending the shit out of himself when he hit the old man laying on the ground.

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[MKULTRA]

Shit situation no doubt but most of you are blowing my mind. None of you were there or know what went down. Self defense can be a bitch sometimes. Did the guy deserve this outcome? Definitely not, but do you think this is the outcome anyone wanted or thought was going to happen? It's a freak thing, bad shit happens. If this security guard came in hot and threw the first punch he could've just as well done the same. He should've done his job and called the cops, if he opened the door this was always a possibility. I'm not condoning it, but we are all human beings and imperfect, we all make mistakes...they were made on both sides I'm sure. I've been assaulted by security guards before and hit over the head with a walkie talkie while I was literally filming and my head was down in my viewfinder, I didn't even see it coming. I jumped up and my friend came to my defense and pushed the guy back off, he could've easily have slipped and fell and hit his head on the stairs...or he could've knocked me out with his initial blow and the same fate could've happened to me. I don't think that would've been his intent but this shit happens in the heat of the moment. Everyone leaves the scene, no one thought the dude was gonna die or be badly injured I'm sure. There's two sides to every story and being in these situations over the years I'm sure theres more to it that isn't being publicized. You fucks are so quick to eat your own all it takes is some sad pictures and the other sides story and you fall for it.

Well said. What happened was the worst case scenario, which most likely was a one and a hundred occurrence.

[Trickflip]

The 2017 thrasher with jason on the cover has an interview with Sean Greene, where he says he broke his neck because he was drunk and didnt want to leave the homies. Could a homie have stayed behind with him? Were they on a filming mission?

Sean Greene had nothing to do with this situation though

[hamisonrye]

I couldn't tell shit from the video and didn't read 20 pages.  Security swung first and skater did not use a board to hit him, is that the consensus?  Yes or no? 

I've seen both said multiple times, as I probably did read 10 pages, but I ain't starting over.

[ZEBRA]

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First, this thread should is prime evidence of the fact that: if you have even half of a brain in your head, you should stay the fuck away from the absolute morons on this message board. It's unfortunate to those of us who love skateboarding, but also know that skaters are probably the last people we'd want to associate ourselves with these days. Most of the idiots on this thread seem to have a 10 year-olds grasp of logic. It's astounding.

Second, instead of all the beyond-stupid hypotheticals being thrown out by you idiots, the better way to evaluate this situation would be to imagine what Jesse is thinking right now. Do you think he's proud that he fucked that security guard up, happy that he defended himself against a fat old man, stoked that he's in county jail with rapists and murderers and gang members?

I'm willing to be that he would give anything to go back and handle that situation in a completely different manner. He went from being in a predatory 8-on-1 situation, to his little bitch ass being prey in a building full of serious criminals, and being denied bail so he has no way out. Bro is probably crying himself to sleep at night.

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Of course Jesse would give anything to reverse what happened, unfortunately for him, that's not how life works and he deserves the 25 years in prison he's about to endure. End of story.

Assault with a deadly weapon is only like 5 years. Not 25. You’re thinking murder.

They were suppose to go to court today. Anyone have info on what happened?? Still in jail? Let go? What’s the deal?

Hopefully it’ll be covered in the news tonight.

[VHS ERA]

Legal advice on SLAP kind of reminds of grandad getting legal advice from Thugnificent.

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Would gnar for a Thugnificent reference if I knew how