Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[fulfillthedream]

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https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/arrest/33591022/jesse-vieira-arrest.html

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oh fuck, that's no good man. assault with a deadly weapon/premeditated murder are definitely not mellow charges obviously. also, with that first charge comes the assumption that he more than likely truck bashed the dude which is really fucked up. from getting your first thrasher cover/last trick in the craziest video of the year to most likely prison time in a matter of months... shit really went downhill quick for this guy.

(downhill pun just to kind of lighten the heaviness in here)

dammnnnnn those are three heavy charges...

[tkp]

Fuck, major bummer.

"The person named in this listing has only been arrested on suspicion of the crime indicated and is presumed innocent." - Let's hope for the best.

PC 245(a)(1) reads: "Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another with a deadly weapon or instrument other than a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not exceeding one year, or by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment."
https://www.shouselaw.com/assault-weapon.html

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Under Penal Code 664/187, California law defines "attempted murder" as when you (1) intend to kill someone and (2) take a "direct step" towards killing that person, but he or she does not die. "Attempted first-degree murder" carries a life sentence (with the possibility of parole, as determined by the California Board of Parole Hearings); otherwise the sentencing range is generally 5 to 9 years in state prison.
https://www.shouselaw.com/attempted-murder.html

[sharkin]

Damn. OP indirectly called it from the start with the gx1000 talk. And then everyone jumped to defending the GX crew saying there’s no way this could relate to one of them.

hey i think we can all agree this is more pizza skateboards fault than anything

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https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/arrest/33591022/jesse-vieira-arrest.html

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oh fuck, that's no good man. assault with a deadly weapon/premeditated murder are definitely not mellow charges obviously. also, with that first charge comes the assumption that he more than likely truck bashed the dude which is really fucked up. from getting your first thrasher cover/last trick in the craziest video of the year to most likely prison time in a matter of months... shit really went downhill quick for this guy.

(downhill pun just to kind of lighten the heaviness in here)

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dammnnnnn those are three heavy charges...

holy fuck that is a buck list of charges..

[Coolhats]

For what it's worth, I'd be shocked if "premeditated murder" sticks.

Yeah, that one is a definite stretch. I’d like to assume that all of this is in some sort of self defense but I guess we won’t know until this all goes to trial.

[ShyLow]

Sounds like jail time. Probably plead out to reduced sentence but doubt they drop those charges without witnesses. Bummer.

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For what it's worth, I'd be shocked if "premeditated murder" sticks.

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Yeah, that one is a definite stretch. I’d like to assume that all of this is in some sort of self defense but I guess we won’t know until this all goes to trial.

my question is this.. if he was charged with 'premeditated murder' then does that mean this dude is dead? can you get charged with murder if the person doesn't doesn't die? wouldn't it be 'aggravated assault' or 'attempted murder'? i hope the dude isn't dead but, that kind of makes me a bit nervous. also, the original link said he was in critical condition so... i don't wanna assume the worst but, it definitely makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[shannamal]

i clicked on this thread thinking, goddamn, we're still talking about this? but these charges are uh....really bad

[tkp]

From SF Sheriff's department. No 664/187 listed as a charge.

[ShyLow]

If the guard was put in critical condition due to an assault, these are charges that would reflect that. Circumstances still matter and they often overcharge in order to end up with lesser pleas. Really depends on how strong the case is. Be very surprised if it wasn't all captured on security video.

[BayZ]

Honestly this fucking sucks for everybody involved.. we play with a fucking wooden toy for fucks sake.. isn't this a little crazy for both sides? For us as skaters to get so upset that someone won't let us play on our wooden toy on their property, then to go as far as too almost ending someone's life is absolutely ridiculous. And for security guards to get so upset that they'll get into an altercation over a skater slightly fucking up someone else's property. I have sympathy for both people involved, I hope the security guard is okay and I hope that whoever did such a horrible act gets help. This sucks for skateboarders overall...This would be a great thing for Thrasher, Supreme, or Gx1000 to speak out against and raise awareness over, but they probably won't due to the fact their whole marketing strategy is glorifying this unneeded bullshit violence. I really have respect for all companies listed, but I do wish that our community could grow up and act like adults sometimes.

[HisDudest]

In all honesty he fuckin deserved it

[sphincterparty]

well it definitely wasn't gx

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"The person named in this listing has only been arrested on suspicion of the crime indicated and is presumed innocent." - Let's hope for the best.

True. If there is suspicion, it must have something to do with this post, but let's hope he's innocent

[wake and bacon]

i could see that

shitty all around, if he did it, gotta pay for that level of completely unacceptable behavior

[ice nine]

pizza has a rapist and possible murderer on their team. hardest team/modern day menace.

[C. R. E. A. M]

100,000 bond is really low for those charges..that's a good sign meaning there over charging him now to plead out to lesser charge later.. He might get a year..drunk drivers only get 4 years for killing someone

[Dernpop1]

100,000 bond is really low for those charges..that's a good sign meaning there over charging him now to plead out to lesser charge later.. He might get a year..drunk drivers only get 4 years for killing someone

  very true he will plead down to these charges but he's definitely going to do some time. Sucks to be him.

[Hevonen]

Obviously overshot charges but damn this isn't gonna end well. Hopefully someone filmed the thing or security cameras caught something so they can know what lead to the assault. But using your board to hit someone in the head is unacceptable in any situation unless the other person is seriously threatening a life. Full kook move fuck that guy

[Pigeon]

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"The person named in this listing has only been arrested on suspicion of the crime indicated and is presumed innocent." - Let's hope for the best.

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True. If there is suspicion, it must have something to do with this post, but let's hope he's innocent

The security guard got beaten up on November 27, and this is from November 13. This is most likely from someone getting hurt. There’s no blood on either truck.

Is there any proof that it’s from beating the security guard and not some other incident?

[Eds_gallerist]

Obviously overshot charges but damn this isn't gonna end well. Hopefully someone filmed the thing or security cameras caught something so they can know what lead to the assault. But using your board to hit someone in the head is unacceptable in any situation unless the other person is seriously threatening a life. Full kook move fuck that guy

Fully agree but has it been established that this is what happened here?

[tkp]

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Obviously overshot charges but damn this isn't gonna end well. Hopefully someone filmed the thing or security cameras caught something so they can know what lead to the assault. But using your board to hit someone in the head is unacceptable in any situation unless the other person is seriously threatening a life. Full kook move fuck that guy

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Fully agree but has it been established that this is what happened here?

Nope, people are just jumping to conclusions that a skater saw a security guard and out of nowhere just decided to attack him. Are people forgetting about the countless times authorities overstep their power? It seems unnecessary to remind people that cops and security guards get away with assaulting and murdering innocent people.

I've met Jesse a few times in the streets. He's always been kind, calm and if I remember correctly doesn't even drink (memory is iffy on this one). We have no idea what really went down that day which led to this altercation. Yes, it sucks for everyone involved, but there are still so many details left out.

[SonictheHedgehog]

using your board to hit someone in the head is unacceptable in any situation unless the other person is seriously threatening a life. Full kook move fuck that guy

Yeah, that's seriously pushing it. What the fuck is wrong with people?

[fongool]

I wonder how they IDed him -- that initial news report implied the only lead they had was just "reports of skateboarders in the area". There's no doubt the whole thing was caught on the building's surveillance cameras but even I can barely tell the GX guys apart.

"Premeditated" will only stick if they can prove he came to the premises specifically to assault the guard.

Pretty dark situation all around.

[expired]

Fuck this is a bummer for everyone involved. Hopefully this gets sorted out properly with the facts, rather then authority putting all the blame onto the skateboarder. Hope the security guard doesn't have any lasting damage.

[Eds_gallerist]

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Obviously overshot charges but damn this isn't gonna end well. Hopefully someone filmed the thing or security cameras caught something so they can know what lead to the assault. But using your board to hit someone in the head is unacceptable in any situation unless the other person is seriously threatening a life. Full kook move fuck that guy

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Fully agree but has it been established that this is what happened here?

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Nope, people are just jumping to conclusions that a skater saw a security guard and out of nowhere just decided to attack him. Are people forgetting about the countless times authorities overstep their power? It seems unnecessary to remind people that cops and security guards get away with assaulting and murdering innocent people.

I've met Jesse a few times in the streets. He's always been kind, calm and if I remember correctly doesn't even drink (memory is iffy on this one). We have no idea what really went down that day which led to this altercation. Yes, it sucks for everyone involved, but there are still so many details left out.

Ok, thanks tkp for clearing it up. So maybe we (as community) should wait before judging someone based on imagination. Hope the situation clears up soon,  I feel bad for both parties.

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"The person named in this listing has only been arrested on suspicion of the crime indicated and is presumed innocent." - Let's hope for the best.

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True. If there is suspicion, it must have something to do with this post, but let's hope he's innocent

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The security guard got beaten up on November 27, and this is from November 13. This is most likely from someone getting hurt. There’s no blood on either truck.

Is there any proof that it’s from beating the security guard and not some other incident?

I didn't think about the dates, good catch. I knew it's not from that but I'm saying when investigating this case, it isn't good that this is one of the last things he's posted, even though it's from a completely different time. I'm on the side hoping Jesse is innocent. I've never met him but mutual friends of mine know him well and talk nothing but good about him

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"The person named in this listing has only been arrested on suspicion of the crime indicated and is presumed innocent." - Let's hope for the best.

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True. If there is suspicion, it must have something to do with this post, but let's hope he's innocent

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You really need to get your shit together - did make any effort to validate your crackpot theory before you posted this bullshit? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.

Calm down Jesse I didn't say that's actual evidence. I'm on your side man

[tkp]

I'm curious as to how the SF police came to their conclusion. They have had facial recognition systems since 2010. Not to mention there are ways law enforcement can get their hands on cell phone location data for a particular area at a particular time.

Lots of cameras all over downtown = lots of eyes on you.

[GollyIamGully]

Damn. Time to get a real job.