Woodshop Directory 2019 Thread

[whatsreallygood]

How's the quality of DSM these days? I heard crailtap got their shit together at least. I used to love DSM shapes but the boards chipped like crazy. I wonder if the shipping process of moving the wood from NA to China and back to NA or wherever affects the quality significantly. I doubt there's good humidity control shipping overseas so maybe Girl and DSM boards skate better in China since they're "fresher?" Or I'm just totally off.

[j....soy.....]

I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

[whatsreallygood]

I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

[j....soy.....]

Yeah, what is cool,is the DSM and girl have different dimensions and wheelbases that are hard to find with generator/BBS stuff...it's a bit of a trade off..

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

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dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

I’ve heard the palace boards are really bad, but never had one. And skate rumors are real silly.

Girl has always had great shape/dimensions. My latest girl board is for sure not the best board I’ve ever had, but it’s really really solid.

[whatsreallygood]

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

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dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

Ah, I didn't know that. I'd assumed they were all resin.

[bumpnrun]

I'm off the giant noses now but it seems as if even when FA/Hockey/Alien use BBS, they keep the same shapes at least...

I'm in the same boat. Kinda over the blunty noses and shapes.

[weedgod94]

I'm off the giant noses now

Yep. I'd probably buy only real twin tails if the wheelbases were just a little shorter

[j....soy.....]

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

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dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...

[Murge]

Anyone know what wood shop the awaysted decks are using?

[TwisT]

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

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dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

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Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...

Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.

And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS

[Paco Supreme]

Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed

[Esmith5488]

Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed

Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp

If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series

[whatsreallygood]

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

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dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

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Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...

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Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.

And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS

Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.

As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:



I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.

[Mesteezo]

Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

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Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

[close]

dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

[close]

Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...

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Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.

And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS

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Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.

As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:



I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.

what brand is that deck you posted?

[hnnng]

I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose

forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?

i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...

can anyone shed some light on this?

[Paco Supreme]

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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed

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Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp

If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series

Harper series I think is always exclusively BBS, collaboration boards I’ve always seen are PS

[j....soy.....]

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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose

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forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?

i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...

can anyone shed some light on this?

It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....

[Esmith5488]

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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed

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Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp

If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series

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Harper series I think is always exclusively BBS, collaboration boards I’ve always seen are PS

This is good to know, I’m actually loving mine, a little bit of a bigger nose than I’ve been running lately but it’s actually been great. I think I’ve Zeroed in on my next few decks

[whatsreallygood]

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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks.  Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board.  Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...

[close]

Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.

[close]

dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.

[close]

Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...

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Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.

And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS

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Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.

As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:



I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.

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what brand is that deck you posted?

It's a shop board from Timber skate shop in Seoul

[Dayto]

Toy machine Europe pro decks are made in china? Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)

[whatsreallygood]

Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.

Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer

[hnnng]

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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose

[close]

forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?

i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...

can anyone shed some light on this?

[close]

It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....

left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...

i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?

these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.

[palelight]

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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose

[close]

forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?

i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...

can anyone shed some light on this?

[close]

It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....

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left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...

i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?

these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.

Doubt there's any science behind the shape. I'd guess since your front foot covers more real estate in terms of switching positions setting up for different tricks? But that's a total guess.

I did notice a weird shape inconsistency with Hockey decks between PS and BBS. Both are 8.38 Piscopo's. The BBS is full nosed and full throughout the whole rails of the deck, whereas the PS is widest in the middle and tapers towards the nose and tail like a (very) vague football shape.  I do wonder about how much QC/screening goes into the shapes for brands that seem all over the place (Hockey/FA, Alien/Hab etc.) vs other brands where it's insanely consistent (DLX, Quasi or something like that).   

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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose

[close]

forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?

i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...

can anyone shed some light on this?

[close]

It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....

[close]

left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...

i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?

these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.

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Doubt there's any science behind the shape. I'd guess since your front foot covers more real estate in terms of switching positions setting up for different tricks? But that's a total guess.

I did notice a weird shape inconsistency with Hockey decks between PS and BBS. Both are 8.38 Piscopo's. The BBS is full nosed and full throughout the whole rails of the deck, whereas the PS is widest in the middle and tapers towards the nose and tail like a (very) vague football shape.  I do wonder about how much QC/screening goes into the shapes for brands that seem all over the place (Hockey/FA, Alien/Hab etc.) vs other brands where it's insanely consistent (DLX, Quasi or something like that).   

i was thinking this front foot theory as well, but thought it might be too simple haha.
im glad someone else thought this as well.

I got a bunch of the new WKND boards in yesterday, the Karsten Kleppan "body parts" for eg. is stamped as an 8.5, but chuck a measure on the width, going down from the nose to the tail, and it varies from 8.625 (top bolts) down to 8.38 (bottom bolts).

its not like my back foot is any smaller than my front foot... i like that extra wood for my sz13 feet!

[nosneb]

For as long as I know psstix boards usually have a slight taper towards the tail.

[yourbreakfsat]

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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.

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Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer

They've improved significantly. Wood no longer feels soft as shit after a week or two, and tail doesn't chip and give out after 3-4 weeks like the old wood did. The decks do pressure crack absurdly fast, but it has no impact on deck performance.

Ben Degros' video is accurate to my personal experience with Girl/Chocolate decks.

[Sativa Lung]

Madness and New Deal need to be added underneath Dwindle (DSM)

New Deal is only dwindle for the re-issues. The "re-imagined" ones (old shapes/graphics remade to fit modern tastes) are PS stix. Some of them actually look kind of interesting, and according the professor he used uncommon molds for some of them that haven't really been used for production boards before.