BAM checks in to rehab for third time

[quicknut]

How do you get addicted to alcohol dude? This aint the 1800's. We aint pirates.

[gub]

Speak for urself

[Shifty Flip]

 

Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.
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This makes no sense to me. 

Doubt BAM is gonna get Naltrexone from a Dr anyways just from the pool rumors. Dangers of precipitated withdrawal.  In the past, I had to spend 30 days inpatient to get a Naltrexone prescription myself.

[billy.pepperidge]

Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

This makes no sense to me. 

Doubt BAM is gonna get Naltrexone from a Dr anyways just from the pool rumors. Dangers of precipitated withdrawal.  In the past, I had to spend 30 days inpatient to get a Naltrexone prescription myself.
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Precipitated withdrawal from opiates, not booze. Right?
To the guy taking an opiate blocker to enhance a nonpoppy derived opioid, your chemistry is off. Mix ain't right.

[hamisonrye]

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Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

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This makes no sense to me. 

Doubt BAM is gonna get Naltrexone from a Dr anyways just from the pool rumors. Dangers of precipitated withdrawal.  In the past, I had to spend 30 days inpatient to get a Naltrexone prescription myself.

Precipitated withdrawal from opiates, not booze. Right?
To the guy taking an opiate blocker to enhance a nonpoppy derived opioid, your chemistry is off. Mix ain't right.
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Naltrexone was actually in trials to mix microdose Naltrexone in with oxy so that oxy would not be as addictive and more potent at the same time.  BAM claimed to have been on Naltrexone at some point.  It's not too hard to get btw, my doc coughed it up when I told him about the Sinclair Method, since I am a drunk and all. 

https://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924(03)00139-8/fulltext

https://www.khemcorp.com/ultra-low-dose-naltrexone-for-lower-opiate-tolerance-research-summary/

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There is a ton more information out there on the potentiation of opioid side of things.  Boozewise It can definitely work to help stop drinking hence why I have the pills and hence why BAM tried it at some point (it was in an interview a while back)

[Buck Russell]

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Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

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This makes no sense to me. 

Doubt BAM is gonna get Naltrexone from a Dr anyways just from the pool rumors. Dangers of precipitated withdrawal.  In the past, I had to spend 30 days inpatient to get a Naltrexone prescription myself.

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Precipitated withdrawal from opiates, not booze. Right?
To the guy taking an opiate blocker to enhance a nonpoppy derived opioid, your chemistry is off. Mix ain't right.

Naltrexone was actually in trials to mix microdose Naltrexone in with oxy so that oxy would not be as addictive and more potent at the same time.  BAM claimed to have been on Naltrexone at some point.  It's not too hard to get btw, my doc coughed it up when I told him about the Sinclair Method, since I am a drunk and all. 

https://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924(03)00139-8/fulltext

https://www.khemcorp.com/ultra-low-dose-naltrexone-for-lower-opiate-tolerance-research-summary/

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There is a ton more information out there on the potentiation of opioid side of things.  Boozewise It can definitely work to help stop drinking hence why I have the pills and hence why BAM tried it at some point (it was in an interview a while back)
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is this the one that was originally supposed to be for something entirely different and they found out about the booze thing on accident? (like how they made viagra) i remember hearing about it in the news or something but can't find the origin now.

[hamisonrye]

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Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

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This makes no sense to me. 

Doubt BAM is gonna get Naltrexone from a Dr anyways just from the pool rumors. Dangers of precipitated withdrawal.  In the past, I had to spend 30 days inpatient to get a Naltrexone prescription myself.

[close]

Precipitated withdrawal from opiates, not booze. Right?
To the guy taking an opiate blocker to enhance a nonpoppy derived opioid, your chemistry is off. Mix ain't right.

[close]

Naltrexone was actually in trials to mix microdose Naltrexone in with oxy so that oxy would not be as addictive and more potent at the same time.  BAM claimed to have been on Naltrexone at some point.  It's not too hard to get btw, my doc coughed it up when I told him about the Sinclair Method, since I am a drunk and all. 

https://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924(03)00139-8/fulltext

https://www.khemcorp.com/ultra-low-dose-naltrexone-for-lower-opiate-tolerance-research-summary/

from r/kratom

from r/kratom

There is a ton more information out there on the potentiation of opioid side of things.  Boozewise It can definitely work to help stop drinking hence why I have the pills and hence why BAM tried it at some point (it was in an interview a while back)

is this the one that was originally supposed to be for something entirely different and they found out about the booze thing on accident? (like how they made viagra) i remember hearing about it in the news or something but can't find the origin now.
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Yeah maybe I think. That's why I said off label but wasn't sure if that is the right term for using one thing made for another thing.  My doctor never really heard of using it to kick booze, but was willing to let me try. 

[Buck Russell]

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is this the one that was originally supposed to be for something entirely different and they found out about the booze thing on accident? (like how they made viagra) i remember hearing about it in the news or something but can't find the origin now.

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Yeah maybe I think. That's why I said off label but wasn't sure if that is the right term for using one thing made for another thing.  My doctor never really heard of using it to kick booze, but was willing to let me try.

oh wait im pretty sure i was thinkin of Baclofen. most of the original stuff on it was in french which is why i was struggling to look it up:

https://baclofentreatment.com/background/stories/dr-amanda-stafford-how-i-found-baclofen/

[hamisonrye]

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is this the one that was originally supposed to be for something entirely different and they found out about the booze thing on accident? (like how they made viagra) i remember hearing about it in the news or something but can't find the origin now.

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Yeah maybe I think. That's why I said off label but wasn't sure if that is the right term for using one thing made for another thing.  My doctor never really heard of using it to kick booze, but was willing to let me try.

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oh wait im pretty sure i was thinkin of Baclofen. most of the original stuff on it was in french which is why i was struggling to look it up:

https://baclofentreatment.com/background/stories/dr-amanda-stafford-how-i-found-baclofen/

When I was doing my research I believe I saw that one as well, from what I gathered there were two that were similar and from my reading I found the Naltrexone route to be more appealing.  I was seeing what drunks had to say about the choices on forums and shit, before I asked doc for a magic pill that would make me not want to drink.  No one wanted the 3rd choice which is Antabuse.

[Heywoodfloyd]

In Sweden a common drug for alcohol dependence, is a remedy that is a bit more Hardcore, it's called "Antabus".
That stuff makes people who consume alcohol physically ill, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disulfiram

[SneakySecrets]

I don’t know much about rehab but for someone to go in and out so quickly like BAM, it really shows how good he was at it. Out here doing in few days what takes most people weeks or months. Props

Nice that there’s someone that sees the glass as half-full. 

You think Doogie Howser graduated medical school when he was 13 because he was a dumbass?  I don’t think so.

[CrumblingInfrastructure]

Damn I just told my doc I drink too much and he was like “Antabuse sucks and you’ll just not take it, heres a prescription for naltrexone”.  I’m starting it tomorrow.

[landedprimo]

Why does anyone give a fuck what Bam is doing? He's a great skater, but I could care less about his personal life.

[Gorillastyle]

People who cant take drugs responsibly are losers

[Seadramon]

People who cant take drugs responsibly are losers

seadramon on loser confirmed

[sododgy]

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They make a medication that curbs alcohol cravings he should get on that

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Yeah, there’s a couple of options. I saw a Ted talk about a this women doctor who was and alcoholic and cured her addiction with this drug in Europe. You can still drink while talking the drug but you drink less and less because you’re brain is rewired to not want alcohol. So in a weeks weeks you’ll find yourself not being able to finish beers because it’s not a reward anymore for your brain, I’ts just like drinking water.

I offered to get it from Europe and pay for it for a friend but he never show interest so fuck it. I have some ibogaine too which has helped many with addiction.

Did you get it to try and help with opioid addiction, or are you just THAT deep down the psychedelic rabbit hole? I've watched people eat datura pods, have friends that move grams of raw L, etc., and have never heard anyone casually mention just having ibogaine lol. For the record, I'm not doubting the statement, just sort of taken aback by it. It's difficult to find people who even know about it outside of those desperately looking for any option to get clean, so seeing someone mention possessing it is so much more rare.

[GAY]

People who cant take drugs responsibly are losers

Sherlock Holmes, is that you?

[Watson]

How do you get addicted to alcohol dude? This aint the 1800's. We aint pirates.

Drink a lot of it all the time. What the fuck man are you stupid?

[Joclo]

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They make a medication that curbs alcohol cravings he should get on that

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Yeah, there’s a couple of options. I saw a Ted talk about a this women doctor who was and alcoholic and cured her addiction with this drug in Europe. You can still drink while talking the drug but you drink less and less because you’re brain is rewired to not want alcohol. So in a weeks weeks you’ll find yourself not being able to finish beers because it’s not a reward anymore for your brain, I’ts just like drinking water.

I offered to get it from Europe and pay for it for a friend but he never show interest so fuck it. I have some ibogaine too which has helped many with addiction.

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We have it here, maybe Europe just prescribes it more for that because it's off label or whatever it's called, i.e. not intended for alcoholism treatment but helps, or maybe Europe doesn't require a prescription?  Bam was actually on it at some point.  It's called Naltrexone, it's used in something called the Sinclair method.  Basically you just get bored of drinking because you never get drunk.  I tried it, I should probably try it again, as it worked, kind of made you feel just full, full of everything really and not drunk. 

Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

I'm pretty sure naltrexone is an opiate antagonist and decreases the effects of your kratom. Not much different than narcan.

[billy.pepperidge]

^That's how i understood it Jocio. It's the opposite of enhancing the experience.

[hamisonrye]

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They make a medication that curbs alcohol cravings he should get on that

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Yeah, there’s a couple of options. I saw a Ted talk about a this women doctor who was and alcoholic and cured her addiction with this drug in Europe. You can still drink while talking the drug but you drink less and less because you’re brain is rewired to not want alcohol. So in a weeks weeks you’ll find yourself not being able to finish beers because it’s not a reward anymore for your brain, I’ts just like drinking water.

I offered to get it from Europe and pay for it for a friend but he never show interest so fuck it. I have some ibogaine too which has helped many with addiction.

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We have it here, maybe Europe just prescribes it more for that because it's off label or whatever it's called, i.e. not intended for alcoholism treatment but helps, or maybe Europe doesn't require a prescription?  Bam was actually on it at some point.  It's called Naltrexone, it's used in something called the Sinclair method.  Basically you just get bored of drinking because you never get drunk.  I tried it, I should probably try it again, as it worked, kind of made you feel just full, full of everything really and not drunk. 

Now I just use my leftover pills to make microdose naltrexone so the kratom hits harder.

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I'm pretty sure naltrexone is an opiate antagonist and decreases the effects of your kratom. Not much different than narcan.

Did you miss my post with all the links? 

https://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924(03)00139-8/fulltext

https://www.khemcorp.com/ultra-low-dose-naltrexone-for-lower-opiate-tolerance-research-summary/

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[hamisonrye]

^That's how i understood it Jocio. It's the opposite of enhancing the experience.

https://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924(03)00139-8/fulltext

https://www.khemcorp.com/ultra-low-dose-naltrexone-for-lower-opiate-tolerance-research-summary/

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[Joclo]

I worked on the advertising campaign for suboxone and don't need to read your links to understand naloxone, naltrexone, etc. I'm well-versed both personally and professionally, but thank you.

[hamisonrye]

I worked on the advertising campaign for suboxone and don't need to read your links to understand naloxone, naltrexone, etc. I'm well-versed both personally and professionally, but thank you.

Then continue to be uneducated in this regard of MICRO DOSING naltrexone. 

[hamisonrye]

A couple more for the doubters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytrex

Here are 20 pages of junkies talking about it.  Many seem to be excited. hmmmm

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/669672-Ultra-low-dose-Naltrexone-for-tolerance-(question)

[notcool]

yes naltrexone should work for alcohol cravings. when i was on suboxone for opiate cravings the naltrexone made me have no interest in alcohol at all. now i'm on subutex (suboxone without the naltrexone) and i'm back to drinking. antabuse works differently it makes the drinker psychically sick when they drink.

[hamisonrye]

yes naltrexone should work for alcohol cravings. when i was on suboxone for opiate cravings the naltrexone made me have no interest in alcohol at all. now i'm on subutex (suboxone without the naltrexone) and i'm back to drinking. antabuse works differently it makes the drinker psychically sick when they drink.

The Sinclair method with naltrexone, pretty much encourages you to drink, and then it's just boring so you stop drinking after a couple.  I think the success rate for naltrexone treating chronic drinking in Sweden or somewhere was 70% of participants.  Not googling so I might be off on the percentage, but something like that. 

I heard antabuse folks could get sick if they even wore cologne.  I knew a dude on it, he would stop taking it so he could get drunk once in a while.  He ended up getting killed with a hatchet while taking one of those weekends of antabuse.

[Zumiez And Xanax]

wow make a new fucking thread i want Bam updates not bluelight bullshit

[billy.pepperidge]

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yes naltrexone should work for alcohol cravings. when i was on suboxone for opiate cravings the naltrexone made me have no interest in alcohol at all. now i'm on subutex (suboxone without the naltrexone) and i'm back to drinking. antabuse works differently it makes the drinker psychically sick when they drink.

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The Sinclair method with naltrexone, pretty much encourages you to drink, and then it's just boring so you stop drinking after a couple.  I think the success rate for naltrexone treating chronic drinking in Sweden or somewhere was 70% of participants.  Not googling so I might be off on the percentage, but something like that. 

I heard antabuse folks could get sick if they even wore cologne.  I knew a dude on it, he would stop taking it so he could get drunk once in a while.  He ended up getting killed with a hatchet while taking one of those weekends of antabuse.

Antabuse withdrawal can be fatal under the Mike Sinclair method. Got it.
Bam is in the TL with a new passport.

[notcool]

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yes naltrexone should work for alcohol cravings. when i was on suboxone for opiate cravings the naltrexone made me have no interest in alcohol at all. now i'm on subutex (suboxone without the naltrexone) and i'm back to drinking. antabuse works differently it makes the drinker psychically sick when they drink.

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The Sinclair method with naltrexone, pretty much encourages you to drink, and then it's just boring so you stop drinking after a couple.  I think the success rate for naltrexone treating chronic drinking in Sweden or somewhere was 70% of participants.  Not googling so I might be off on the percentage, but something like that. 

I heard antabuse folks could get sick if they even wore cologne.  I knew a dude on it, he would stop taking it so he could get drunk once in a while.  He ended up getting killed with a hatchet while taking one of those weekends of antabuse.

the nalatrexone at first made me bored with drinking i kept doing it then it started to make me physically sick.