VX MIC by Wooden Camera

[Jordan Wiens]

sounds eerily like a vx. excited to see videos made with it in the future.





$299 pre-order
https://woodencamera.com/pages/vxmic

[doyle]

Had to cop

[Statebird]

this with a 4:3 HD Setup could be a game changer

[Spaghetti Croc69]

So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

[doyle]

So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

The comparison video clips are the exact same, it's just the audio that changes.

Probably filmed with this setup:

[Chatbot]

wow if only this was around a few years ago when I was more serious about filming. I want to see a test video by someone who isn't endorsing the product though

[Jean-Ralphio Zaperstein]

yeah changing clips audio to "fake" vx ones has been done a LOT. This looks like a great idea, I'm just curious about how it will handle hits (the mic tends to break pretty easily on the vx given it's standing right in the risky zone)

[Spaghetti Croc69]

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So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

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The comparison video clips are the exact same, it's just the audio that changes.

Probably filmed with this setup:
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ahhh yes ok.

[Clayton]

Would cop this in a heartbeat if I still filmed and switched to HD.

[jakeumms]

So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

Right? The design is old enough that it might even be public domain by now.

[Allen.]

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So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

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The comparison video clips are the exact same, it's just the audio that changes.

Probably filmed with this setup:

Who's filmin' with that setup, Goro?

[ungzilla]

Goro's work with Magenta was great

[pointandclick]

So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

well maybe you can rig up a vx to record onto an internal harddrive?
truthfully if i could get someone to figure out how to make my gl2 record videos NOT stills onto the mini sd card id still be using it. need some hacking or something. id rather not buy an xlr to external weird hard drive. the components are already there, just need some proper wiring maybe?

[djtraceman610]

Anybody got a promo code or discount for these? I wanna try it out, but i don't know bout that price

[planman]

this with a 4:3 HD Setup could be a game changer

paging Grey mag

[Szechuan]

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this with a 4:3 HD Setup could be a game changer

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paging Grey mag

Hopefully by the time I make the switch to HD there will be a camcorder that does 4:3 in the cam with a lens size for the mk1. A man can dream at least.

[pointandclick]

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So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

[close]

well maybe you can rig up a vx to record onto an internal harddrive?
truthfully if i could get someone to figure out how to make my gl2 record videos NOT stills onto the mini sd card id still be using it. need some hacking or something. id rather not buy an xlr to external weird hard drive. the components are already there, just need some proper wiring maybe?

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You can’t have it both ways. The mini dv workflow is part of using the vx1000, or in your case a gl2(? Awful camera). As long as you don’t reuse tapes you’ll always have the clips incase your hard drive fails or something.



Is essentially what you’re describing but I don’t think it’s practical for skating seeing as how if a cable comes loose mid line or something you’re fucked.

I agree with how easily these may break if hit.

I wanna know Kerry at video electronic’s opinion on this.

yeah, thats what i was hoping to avoid. if there was a possibility to bypass the tapes and record onto the sd internally is what i want. tapes will become harder and harder to find. i dont want to run any cables ideally.

[Burton Ernie]

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So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

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The comparison video clips are the exact same, it's just the audio that changes.

Probably filmed with this setup:
[img]https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/bbdce2ff64f05358f59566648389d6be/5D21FE7D/t51.2885-15/e35/51769957_587244945123227_7487409456329285038_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com[/img

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ahhh yes ok.

Doesn’t the VX1 have a 3.5mm mic input? My VX21 does. BUT to me both comparison clips look like the same clip. Maybe they recorded the VXMic to a stand-alone audio recorder so they could get both sources of audio with the same clip.

[doyle]

The clip is the exact same, the audio is replaced as the comparison. The VX1000 is recording side-by-side with the HD camera (the only angle we see) just so that the VX1000 audio can be used to compare to the new mic.

[Ed boy]

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So the vig on both of those cameras is the exact same? Kinda suspect to me but what do I know.

Also, Im an EE and Im slighlty upset with myself that I didnt think of this idea.

[close]

well maybe you can rig up a vx to record onto an internal harddrive?
truthfully if i could get someone to figure out how to make my gl2 record videos NOT stills onto the mini sd card id still be using it. need some hacking or something. id rather not buy an xlr to external weird hard drive. the components are already there, just need some proper wiring maybe?

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You can’t have it both ways. The mini dv workflow is part of using the vx1000, or in your case a gl2(? Awful camera). As long as you don’t reuse tapes you’ll always have the clips incase your hard drive fails or something.



Is essentially what you’re describing but I don’t think it’s practical for skating seeing as how if a cable comes loose mid line or something you’re fucked.

I agree with how easily these may break if hit.

I wanna know Kerry at video electronic’s opinion on this.

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yeah, thats what i was hoping to avoid. if there was a possibility to bypass the tapes and record onto the sd internally is what i want. tapes will become harder and harder to find. i dont want to run any cables ideally.

I dreamed I invented a mini DV SD card adapter 5 years ago but never knew how to go about making it.

[doyle]

So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.



GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

[Jordan Wiens]

So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.



GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

thanks so much for doing the test doyle! im not hearing the snap crackle and pop of the og mic, like the new preamps are too good. maybe boosting the levels and then taking them down in post or degrading the quality somehow would make it sounds more similar. i asked wooden camera if it would sound different on different cameras and they said no but i highly doubt that. hope to see more tests from people with different cameras. berrics test on the hpx170 was impossible to tell because of how insanely echoey it is.

[Burton Ernie]

Nothing like purposely degrading the output of a decent mic to match some perceived flaws of a mic from the 90s!

[doyle]

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So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.



GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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thanks so much for doing the test doyle! im not hearing the snap crackle and pop of the og mic, like the new preamps are too good. maybe boosting the levels and then taking them down in post or degrading the quality somehow would make it sounds more similar. i asked wooden camera if it would sound different on different cameras and they said no but i highly doubt that. hope to see more tests from people with different cameras. berrics test on the hpx170 was impossible to tell because of how insanely echoey it is.

I'm not sure what difference using other cameras would be, but I can try this same side-by-side with an HPX/Xtreme soon.

I think having a third one, either Rode VideoMic or even just HPX internal mic will help show just how much the VX mic is an improvement (and just how similar it is to the VX1000 mic).

If you wanted to try messing with exporting/levels and shit, there is a downloadable folder of a bunch of different audio files from different mics on the Wooden Camera site - https://woodencamera.com/pages/vxmic

[BacksideWallride]

So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.



GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Actual VX still sounds better.

[CHONGO]

fuck so expensive but pretty sick

[clintendo]

I'm in the middle of filming something with an all iphone set up, I'm tempted to get one of these for it, but not sure how much of a fuck around its going to be to rig to an iphone

[hadouken]

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So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.



GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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Actual VX still sounds better.

It sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.

If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.

[Jordan Wiens]

I'm in the middle of filming something with an all iphone set up, I'm tempted to get one of these for it, but not sure how much of a fuck around its going to be to rig to an iphone

just get a death lens and a hot shoe handle and call it a day. iphone should be more about ease of use and spontaneity.

It sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.

If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.

I am not good at audio by any means but i mustve tried every filter in premiere lol. you should download the video using https://y2mate.com and see if you can do it in an nle. some if any are willing to send their audio to a different program to be mastered but its not practical, especially for a skate video.

[doyle]

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So I just got one on Friday and did a little side by side test with a VX1000.

GH5 had internal audio on manual at -12db, VX1000 audio on auto. VX in left hand, GH5 in right. Audio is straight from the camera, it hasn't been edited at all.

In my opinion it's definitely the best mic option for skate audio available. It's obviously not 100% identical, but the pop/land/grind sounds seem veeeery close.

I might try to do this again at some point with a Rode VideoMic as well, but its annoying enough filming with two cameras at once let alone adding in a third. If anyone has any other suggestions for tests let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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Actual VX still sounds better.

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It sounds like the VX boosts mid frequencies, whereas the GH5 is pretty flat. I'd almost guarantee that the VX boosts frequencies that Sony decided were in the 'voice' spectrum.

If you wanna send me the audio files of each I reckon I could figure out exactly what's going on. And I'd be willing to bet that a plugin could mimic the VX really, really well. Audio plugins have come a long way; they can mimic the sound of various machines and rooms at Abbey Road, so I'm sure we could crack the secret of why a VX sounds so good.

Here you go!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akndojdbtvrufv5/AABQQfCkQm7qosd_N168V5qSa?dl=0