Twin tail

[fakiefs180]

New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

[Dan Gerous]

New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

Their numbers don't add up. If it is 32" long with a 14.25" wb, the tails have to be longer than 6.58, if the tails are 6.58 and the wb is 14.25, similar numbers to the Quasi 8.375, it must be much shorter than 32"... or the wheelbase is longer than that... or they measured the length with the tape pressed down in contact with the board all the way, not straight across.

[fakiefs180]

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New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

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Their numbers don't add up. If it is 32" long with a 14.25" wb, the tails have to be longer than 6.58, if the tails are 6.58 and the wb is 14.25, similar numbers to the Quasi 8.375, it must be much shorter than 32"... or the wheelbase is longer than that... or they measured the length with the tape pressed down in contact with the board all the way, not straight across.

Damn you are right. Thanks for the heads up.
With these specs the length would be around 31.75.

[Xen]

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New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

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Their numbers don't add up. If it is 32" long with a 14.25" wb, the tails have to be longer than 6.58, if the tails are 6.58 and the wb is 14.25, similar numbers to the Quasi 8.375, it must be much shorter than 32"... or the wheelbase is longer than that... or they measured the length with the tape pressed down in contact with the board all the way, not straight across...which has to be the case, look at all their offerings, some of the longest in the game, for everything.

I don't know:

A) anyone that's ridden one
B) a store that carries them

But, I believe their measurements are suspect and as @Dan Gerous noted, they probably measure tape down and are actually shorter than listed.

[Mbrimson88]

I see, the issue is not the board, it is you 

Ha yes it is totally me!

When it comes to the DLX twin shapes, what is interesting is hearing a lot more people skate the smaller 8.25 and 8.3 sizes way more than the 8.5 boards, but a few others on here have skated and like the 8.5 without issue.

[Easy Slider]

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I see, the issue is not the board, it is you 

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Ha yes it is totally me!

When it comes to the DLX twin shapes, what is interesting is hearing a lot more people skate the smaller 8.25 and 8.3 sizes way more than the 8.5 boards, but a few others on here have skated and like the 8.5 without issue.

The thing is I had a „regular“ (non twin) Ishod Full 8.38 which was actually 8.5 and which I loved and an Ishod Dreamer 8.38 which I hated so I am trying to understand if the twin shapes compare to the regular shapes, or not.

[Mbrimson88]

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I see, the issue is not the board, it is you 

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Ha yes it is totally me!

When it comes to the DLX twin shapes, what is interesting is hearing a lot more people skate the smaller 8.25 and 8.3 sizes way more than the 8.5 boards, but a few others on here have skated and like the 8.5 without issue.

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The thing is I had a „regular“ (non twin) Ishod Full 8.38 which was actually 8.5 and which I loved and an Ishod Dreamer 8.38 which I hated so I am trying to understand if the twin shapes compare to the regular shapes, or not.

The regular / dreamer 8.38 is so much more tapered, which is why I think it is a bit more nimble and what I usually skate now, with those bigger BBS 8.5 boards being a lot more of a log by comparison (while still being a good overall size and shape for the same trucks and everything else) but a bit more on the tail is always welcome to me.

I have had a number of 8.38 in the Full SE boards before and yes they are a bit more squared off and wider overall too, with the 8.5 twin probably being right in the middle of those two you had for kick / tail shape, of course with the addition of a two for one deal on the tail / kicks on the twin shape.

As was said before, the twin 6.75 length kicks is a bit more in between a normal board, of about 6.5 tail and 7 nose, so not quite normal smaller tails, but not quite normal longer noses either.  It does work well for another guy who did buy quite a few, but he is back on the 8.3 twin more so than the 8.5 nowdays - personal preference though.


I could line up all three new in shrink just to compare sizes and take some pics if you were keen, but I don't know how clearly the pics would be or how well they would show the differences.

[Easy Slider]

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I see, the issue is not the board, it is you 

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Ha yes it is totally me!

When it comes to the DLX twin shapes, what is interesting is hearing a lot more people skate the smaller 8.25 and 8.3 sizes way more than the 8.5 boards, but a few others on here have skated and like the 8.5 without issue.

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The thing is I had a „regular“ (non twin) Ishod Full 8.38 which was actually 8.5 and which I loved and an Ishod Dreamer 8.38 which I hated so I am trying to understand if the twin shapes compare to the regular shapes, or not.

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The regular / dreamer 8.38 is so much more tapered, which is why I think it is a bit more nimble and what I usually skate now, with those bigger BBS 8.5 boards being a lot more of a log by comparison (while still being a good overall size and shape for the same trucks and everything else) but a bit more on the tail is always welcome to me.

I have had a number of 8.38 in the Full SE boards before and yes they are a bit more squared off and wider overall too, with the 8.5 twin probably being right in the middle of those two you had for kick / tail shape, of course with the addition of a two for one deal on the tail / kicks on the twin shape.

As was said before, the twin 6.75 length kicks is a bit more in between a normal board, of about 6.5 tail and 7 nose, so not quite normal smaller tails, but not quite normal longer noses either.  It does work well for another guy who did buy quite a few, but he is back on the 8.3 twin more so than the 8.5 nowdays - personal preference though.


I could line up all three new in shrink just to compare sizes and take some pics if you were keen, but I don't know how clearly the pics would be or how well they would show the differences.

Cheers, don‘t bother, I am more interested in the concave (not the steepness of the kicks) of the 8.5 tho, would you qualify it as rather shallow or deep?

[Solex]

New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

The Darkroom Facebook post says the tips are 6.5875".

Theorically it should be 31.675" lenght straight across.

On a side note, first time I take a look at Darkroom. Huge taste of good old Alien Workshop graphics. Fantastic.

[Xen]

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New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

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The Darkroom Facebook post says the tips are 6.5875".

Theorically it should be 31.675" lenght straight across.

On a side note, first time I take a look at Darkroom. Huge taste of good old Alien Workshop graphics. Fantastic.

That is because it's Don Pendleton's company =D

[Xen]

Taking this here: I see three different Foy twins. Are they identical shapes?

@Easy Slider

30% off clearance...Foy up!

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Strictly_Deathwish_Deck/descpage-DWFSDDK.html

[Solex]

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New Twin Tail on the darkroom insta.
I think the tails are like 6.58 something. It looks rad.

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The Darkroom Facebook post says the tips are 6.5875".

Theorically it should be 31.675" lenght straight across.

On a side note, first time I take a look at Darkroom. Huge taste of good old Alien Workshop graphics. Fantastic.

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That is because it's Don Pendleton's company =D

Yep, I instantly ckecked that when I saw this graphics.

[Easy Slider]

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Taking this here: I see three different Foy twins. Are they identical shapes?

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@Easy Slider

30% off clearance...Foy up!

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Strictly_Deathwish_Deck/descpage-DWFSDDK.html

Thanks for the heads up bro but I am in Europe so shipping would probably still be exorbitant.

[streetmeat]

God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

[Xen]

God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

Is this your first twin? No matter the brand they take getting used to.

That said it could just be a shit shape/bad dims for you, I’ve had it happen…stepped on it and said nope, not gonna work.

[streetmeat]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Is this your first twin? No matter the brand they take getting used to.

That said it could just be a shit shape/bad dims for you, I’ve had it happen…stepped on it and said nope, not gonna work.

first twin, yea. im open to the idea of it considering i do a lot of fakie stuff and im not loyal to popping of the nose or tail when i do it. but yea, coming from loving DLX full se shapes and hockey decks to that was like 

[goodatmeth]

God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

I hated mine until I cut the tails down to 6.5". The long tails makes it feel like skating a normal deck the wrong way around, way too light pop.
If you feel the same, try bigger wheels or higher/heavier trucks. Risers maybe?

[Solex]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Is this your first twin? No matter the brand they take getting used to.

That said it could just be a shit shape/bad dims for you, I’ve had it happen…stepped on it and said nope, not gonna work.

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first twin, yea. im open to the idea of it considering i do a lot of fakie stuff and im not loyal to popping of the nose or tail when i do it. but yea, coming from loving DLX full se shapes and hockey decks to that was like 

The wheelbase is also quite short for the lenght and the width. I think it can feel weird, especially on the 8.5".

I personnaly love it, but I used to ride ~ 7.75" boards exclusively so I think I always had short wheelbases.

Which version are they? 8.25" or 8.5"?

[Paul_Glider Skateboards]

God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

[goodatmeth]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

May I ask what differentiates your shapes from the Ishod twins? Specs seem to be the same

[streetmeat]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Is this your first twin? No matter the brand they take getting used to.

That said it could just be a shit shape/bad dims for you, I’ve had it happen…stepped on it and said nope, not gonna work.

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first twin, yea. im open to the idea of it considering i do a lot of fakie stuff and im not loyal to popping of the nose or tail when i do it. but yea, coming from loving DLX full se shapes and hockey decks to that was like 

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The wheelbase is also quite short for the lenght and the width. I think it can feel weird, especially on the 8.5".

I personnaly love it, but I used to ride ~ 7.75" boards exclusively so I think I always had short wheelbases.

Which version are they? 8.25" or 8.5"?

8.5

honestly i think its just how flat it is that i dont dig. it also feels thick(er) and super stiff. dont think ive ever hated a deck this much in 20+ years of skating ha.

[streetmeat]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

both but more the concave. i can almost always get used to a different shape.

[pointandclick]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

the justin henry quasi feels steeper to me than the craig ones.

[Mbrimson88]

Cheers, don‘t bother, I am more interested in the concave (not the steepness of the kicks) of the 8.5 tho, would you qualify it as rather shallow or deep?

As the DLX boards have a I to IV on top, which shows place in the stack, a I usually a little more steep / slightly deeper concave and a IV usually being slightly more mellow in the concave, I guess it is down to which board you get.

There are differences and the board is a III that I have, which is about the same as the other boards, but overall it is on the slightly more mellow side for BBS, but definitely not as mellow as some other BBS / DLX boards I have seen and stood on.

If anywhere has one, check with them what number is on top as most places should be able to easily check and get back to you with that information.

[Paul_Glider Skateboards]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

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May I ask what differentiates your shapes from the Ishod twins? Specs seem to be the same

Full transparency, I've personally only ridden an 8.0 Ishod twin tail before we started the brand (things might have changed too), but we've done a lot of research and gathered a lot of feedback from skaters, so take it for what it's worth. In terms of head to head specs, I know that the Ishod kicks are a bit more square- almost a hybrid shape with pop angles of a tail.

Our tails are more of a full (round) versus a pin-tail or square shape, and we decided to make our boards a bit more on the standard --> dense side versus a featherlight. Decided to sacrifice a little bit of lightness for durability.

Hopefully this helps. And as my sig suggests, reach out if you guys are ever interested in trying out our board. We offer slap pals generous discounts on their first board No pressure ever obviously

[goodatmeth]

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God DAMMIT, Pals. I’ve had two Crob TTs on ice since they released and finally set one up today and H A T E it. Is this because its my first Crail deck in 20 years or is the shape/how flat it is just that bad? Is there a fuller shaped-steeper concave TT out there?

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Just curious, do you think it's the shape or the concave? Two different variables. Our boards are a med-mellow too so curious to hear your thoughts

[close]

May I ask what differentiates your shapes from the Ishod twins? Specs seem to be the same

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Full transparency, I've personally only ridden an 8.0 Ishod twin tail before we started the brand (things might have changed too), but we've done a lot of research and gathered a lot of feedback from skaters, so take it for what it's worth. In terms of head to head specs, I know that the Ishod kicks are a bit more square- almost a hybrid shape with pop angles of a tail.

Our tails are more of a full (round) versus a pin-tail or square shape, and we decided to make our boards a bit more on the standard --> dense side versus a featherlight. Decided to sacrifice a little bit of lightness for durability.

Hopefully this helps. And as my sig suggests, reach out if you guys are ever interested in trying out our board. We offer slap pals generous discounts on their first board No pressure ever obviously

Thanks for the answer! I'd love to try one for sure since I only ride twins, but that's probably not going to work until you have some european distribution, which I hope you'll get in the future. Even a free deck wouldn't be worth the shipping from the states, it's stupid expensive.

[Easy Slider]

With Jamie winning Tampa these will be flying out of the window so I finally pulled the trigger on one of each for scientific reasons.

[mynameisnotjeff]

Has someone mentioned the Quasi twin tails?
https://quasiskateboards.com/products/henry-mirror-8-375

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/henry-mirror-8-125

[Xen]

Has someone mentioned the Quasi twin tails?
https://quasiskateboards.com/products/henry-mirror-8-375

https://quasiskateboards.com/products/henry-mirror-8-125

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.msg3772495#msg3772495

Just two pages back my dude.

Doesn't seem like a lot of us picked them up tho. since all quasi measure shorter, this one would be too short for my tastes...bummer too as it would be nice to have an 8.3x twin that isn't a slick.

[Easy Slider]

The Foys are here. For your benefit I confirm that the shapes are identical. I laid them next to my last Neen which I have been riding for a while. The Foy is considerably shorter and has a shorter wheelbase. The concave on the Foys is deeper so I am scared that I will lose all my flips. We‘ll have to see.