Twin tail

[Fhk]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

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Same, wish it was shorter for sure, I mean, I get it, they want to keep the length what it is so they have to keep the tail dimensions the same, so the only place for it to go is in the WB...

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So how big are the kicks on the 8.3 ?

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6.6 and for anyone curious the longer wheelbase does not mess with you as much as it would on a normal popsicle IMO. Maybe that just in my head, but my skating was only affected by the lack of nose if anything.
And for any of you guys skating the 8.3 which trucks do you have on it.

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The 8.3 sits really well on 8.25 trucks, so Indy 144s for the ones I have skated - tech friend's board, but it rode well.

This spring I should try my Indy 144 hollows on it. I tried regular 5.6 Ventures on it, it wasn't too terrible but that was just initial impression. I know I could find something better. Thanks for the input man

[sammyz]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

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Same, wish it was shorter for sure, I mean, I get it, they want to keep the length what it is so they have to keep the tail dimensions the same, so the only place for it to go is in the WB...

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So how big are the kicks on the 8.3 ?

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6.6 and for anyone curious the longer wheelbase does not mess with you as much as it would on a normal popsicle IMO. Maybe that just in my head, but my skating was only affected by the lack of nose if anything.
And for any of you guys skating the 8.3 which trucks do you have on it.

I rode 144’s but i prefer the thunder 148’s

[TPB3333]

Since there are so few symmetrical shapes out there. Is there a company that consistently makes very close to symmetrical shapes? Like where the tail and nose have the same length but the steepness is slightly different or anything. I ordered two krooked Bobby Worrest decks after scowering the internet for hours and paying a bunch of shipping costs (I live in the Netherlands). But I'm kinda afraid that if I like them a lot, that when I have to get a new board there are no symmetrical options...

[Mbrimson88]

Twin threads too (just in case people only see half the info):

Twin tail
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=105756.90

Twin "hybird" decks
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115688.0

[Xen]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

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Same, wish it was shorter for sure, I mean, I get it, they want to keep the length what it is so they have to keep the tail dimensions the same, so the only place for it to go is in the WB...

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So how big are the kicks on the 8.3 ?

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6.6 and for anyone curious the longer wheelbase does not mess with you as much as it would on a normal popsicle IMO. Maybe that just in my head, but my skating was only affected by the lack of nose if anything.
And for any of you guys skating the 8.3 which trucks do you have on it.

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The 8.3 sits really well on 8.25 trucks, so Indy 144s for the ones I have skated - tech friend's board, but it rode well.

I ride 8.25" on the DLX TT, it's a great fit since it's a true 8.3" and usually Tensor/Theeve to pull that WB in. Switching to 149s and slim wheels tho for more slappy room.

[thefriscokid]

I dont want a twin tail, I always felt my tail was too short , Id rather see a twin nose DLX shape

[z_tx]

I dont want a twin tail, I always felt my tail was too short , Id rather see a twin nose DLX shape

yep, that would be ideal. I know there is twin nose decks on the market (Neen Deathwish) but they are way to pointy and flat for my liking

[Mbrimson88]

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I dont want a twin tail, I always felt my tail was too short , Id rather see a twin nose DLX shape

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yep, that would be ideal. I know there is twin nose decks on the market (Neen Deathwish) but they are way to pointy and flat for my liking

In doing some experiments on longer wheelbase DLX decks, we drilled the back bolts in a bit, so both shortening the wheelbase and making the kicks a little bit more symmetrical, even if the nose and tail were slightly different, it was still an interesting experience.

Some people would think it ridiculous, but it worked for what the person wanted, which was almost a twin nose deck.


Whenever I think about twin boards, I get out the Real Ishod 8.3 used or the 8.5 new twin that I still have and one look at it makes me put it away again.  The deck is nice enough in the tail but so short in the nose, which makes it really weird for me.

[Bigwheelbite]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

Likewise.

Anyone know why 14” wb only goes up to an 8.25?

[goodatmeth]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

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Likewise.

Anyone know why 14” wb only goes up to an 8.25?

I've only ridden 14" wb for years before switching to the real 8.25 twin tail. It usually makes a huge difference but this deck seriously doesn't feel like it has a long wheelbase. I can't tell you why, maybe it's just the perfect tail length/steepness but it feels super light and responsive.

[Fhk]

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its interesting how their WBs for these are always 14.3 and up

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yea the WB ruins it for me

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Same, wish it was shorter for sure, I mean, I get it, they want to keep the length what it is so they have to keep the tail dimensions the same, so the only place for it to go is in the WB...

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So how big are the kicks on the 8.3 ?

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6.6 and for anyone curious the longer wheelbase does not mess with you as much as it would on a normal popsicle IMO. Maybe that just in my head, but my skating was only affected by the lack of nose if anything.
And for any of you guys skating the 8.3 which trucks do you have on it.

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The 8.3 sits really well on 8.25 trucks, so Indy 144s for the ones I have skated - tech friend's board, but it rode well.

Great advice with the 144's, I tried it Today, and it is perfect. Shoes and gear section comes through again.

[JamesFardy]

Ok I definitely like a like “long” nose any twin tail out there for a guy like me? (I promise I’m talking about skateboarding)

[goodatmeth]

Ok I definitely like a like “long” nose any twin tail out there for a guy like me? (I promise I’m talking about skateboarding)

Deathwish makes "twin nose" decks for neen sometimes.
But do you really want a long nose for a tail?

[numagik]

that's exactly what I'm looking for actually. if anyone can point me in the right direction id appreciate it. the worrest krooked twin tail seemed like the "tails" were pretty big im leaning toward that one.

[Dan Gerous]

that's exactly what I'm looking for actually. if anyone can point me in the right direction id appreciate it. the worrest krooked twin tail seemed like the "tails" were pretty big im leaning toward that one.

The Worrest is the exact same board as the Ishod Twin Tail 8.3. The tails are maybe a little bit longer than some tails on non-symetrcial boards, but they're still definitely tails so if you like a long nose, you might not like it.

They're 6.6" but that's measured horizontally, like with a ruler going straight from the tips of a tail to the other, not measured down from the tip to the actual bolt holes (that way it's closer to 6.8" or something)... Does that make sense?

The only twin nose I'm aware of is Neen's board, and it's mellower than the DLX twin tails, so the pop is probably quite different.

[Mbrimson88]

The only twin nose I'm aware of is Neen's board, and it's mellower than the DLX twin tails, so the pop is probably quite different.

And they are quite difficult to get it seems.

[hiljentaa]

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The only twin nose I'm aware of is Neen's board, and it's mellower than the DLX twin tails, so the pop is probably quite different.

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And they are quite difficult to get it seems.

Big Zoom seems to have em pretty often.

https://www.zumiez.com/deathwish-neen-controlled-chaos-8-12-skateboard-deck.html

https://www.zumiez.com/deathwish-neen-spew-3-twin-8-12-skateboard-deck.html

[numagik]

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that's exactly what I'm looking for actually. if anyone can point me in the right direction id appreciate it. the worrest krooked twin tail seemed like the "tails" were pretty big im leaning toward that one.

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The Worrest is the exact same board as the Ishod Twin Tail 8.3. The tails are maybe a little bit longer than some tails on non-symetrcial boards, but they're still definitely tails so if you like a long nose, you might not like it.

They're 6.6" but that's measured horizontally, like with a ruler going straight from the tips of a tail to the other, not measured down from the tip to the actual bolt holes (that way it's closer to 6.8" or something)... Does that make sense?

The only twin nose I'm aware of is Neen's board, and it's mellower than the DLX twin tails, so the pop is probably quite different.

thanks yeah that makes sense. of course both the neen boards are ugly af lol

[Mbrimson88]

From the Real catalog, they have the sizes and all the info for the DLX twins, but in case it is too small to see, text here too:

8.0 x 31.5, 14.3 wb and 6.55 kicks

8.25 x 31.8, 14.33 wb and 6.625 kicks

8.3 x 31.9, 14.4 wb and 6.6 kicks

8.5 x 32.2, 14.5 wb and 6.72 kicks

[JamesFardy]

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The only twin nose I'm aware of is Neen's board, and it's mellower than the DLX twin tails, so the pop is probably quite different.

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And they are quite difficult to get it seems.

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Big Zoom seems to have em pretty often.

https://www.zumiez.com/deathwish-neen-controlled-chaos-8-12-skateboard-deck.html

https://www.zumiez.com/deathwish-neen-spew-3-twin-8-12-skateboard-deck.html

Dude thank you so much. Yeah it’s not a favorite graphic but I don’t mind that at all

[j....soy.....]

It's infuriating....why would an 8" board have close to a 14.5 wheelbase? 

[Fhk]

It's infuriating....why would an 8" board have close to a 14.5 wheelbase?

Idk if you have tried one, but for me the wb makes no difference with the TT. I am very particular about short wb's too, but that was all washed away with these.

[sammyz]

Just heard on Nine Club, crail is coming out with a twin tail in 8.25 and 8.5...no details on length and wb, but considering crail decks sometimes have shorter wheelbases, these could be cool. Shape is apparently called G069 and G096

[ballintoohard]

I rode an 8.3 worrest with cast 5.6 and actually liked the pop and almost everything felt pretty damn consistent. I never adjusted for nollie stuff and ended up ditching it. I’d try one again on Thunders for sure.

[Fhk]

I rode an 8.3 worrest with cast 5.6 and actually liked the pop and almost everything felt pretty damn consistent. I never adjusted for nollie stuff and ended up ditching it. I’d try one again on Thunders for sure.

I tried it at first with 5.6 Ventures and it didn't go well for me, it sucks because Ventures are my go to.

[Xen]

I rode an 8.3 worrest with cast 5.6 and actually liked the pop and almost everything felt pretty damn consistent. I never adjusted for nollie stuff and ended up ditching it. I’d try one again on Thunders for sure.

Didn't like it on thunders, I tried ML/Indy/Tensors and they all felt great (as they pulled in the WB). ML felt the best being so low.

[Mitchell_Stevens_7]

skatemafia has a "symmetrical" shape

width: 8.5"
length: 32.1"
wheelbase: 14.2"
nose: 6.88"
tail: 6.84"

Unfortunately I don't know the specific name of the shape. I've ridden a couple of these boards and the longer tail has always been a good nose for my switch tricks. Their graphics are however questionable to say the least.

[Mbrimson88]

skatemafia has a "symmetrical" shape

width: 8.5"
length: 32.1"
wheelbase: 14.2"
nose: 6.88"
tail: 6.84"

Unfortunately I don't know the specific name of the shape. I've ridden a couple of these boards and the longer tail has always been a good nose for my switch tricks. Their graphics are however questionable to say the least.

Nice!

Where are you and do you know what woodshop it came from?

Eg Europe it is HLC / Jart, but in US and AU it is BBS, or at least was last time I had some.

[Mitchell_Stevens_7]

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skatemafia has a "symmetrical" shape

width: 8.5"
length: 32.1"
wheelbase: 14.2"
nose: 6.88"
tail: 6.84"

Unfortunately I don't know the specific name of the shape. I've ridden a couple of these boards and the longer tail has always been a good nose for my switch tricks. Their graphics are however questionable to say the least.

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Nice!

Where are you and do you know what woodshop it came from?

Eg Europe it is HLC / Jart, but in US and AU it is BBS, or at least was last time I had some.

I live in Europe, but there was no sticker that would refer to the woodshop.

https://www.freedomskateshop.at/skate/skatemafia-lawyer-house-stripes-8-5-deck

I didn't buy it there, but that was the only one I could find online

[ImmanuelCunt]

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It's infuriating....why would an 8" board have close to a 14.5 wheelbase?

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Idk if you have tried one, but for me the wb makes no difference with the TT. I am very particular about short wb's too, but that was all washed away with these.

The 8 inch one is truly horrible, not because of the wheelbase, but because the tails are just awfully short. It even feels too short for a tail on that shape and especially for a nose.