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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #540 on: November 13, 2021, 04:16:06 PM »
Recently standing on one of those BPSW era at its prime was pretty weird.

A 7+ nose and a less than 5 tiny tail was the total opposite of the 80s fish boards but they still had a purpose.


At least now we have so many options including regular, twin nose, twin tail, etc so everyone can have a happy place.

So glad board shapes have evolved to this point, but I think it would be nice to have more options in the exact twins.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #541 on: November 13, 2021, 04:40:20 PM »
I think I finally came to the realization that I skate better off the nose of most boards I ride after being in denial about it for pretty much ever, what’s a good symmetrical shape that would be closer to that? Are most “twin tails” more of a middle ground than actually two tails? I skate 8” boards so maybe not a lot of options anyway.

It might be because I grew up skating my board the wrong direction because I didn’t know any better, but I’d rather find a symmetrical board than do that on purpose…

G027 details are like switching the board around kinnda. Long tails with lots of fingers of flat makes the tail feel like other boards nose. Crob twin is same ish just twin.
Also g027 taper from 8. To 8.25 tail to nose.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #542 on: November 13, 2021, 11:45:52 PM »
Recently standing on one of those BPSW era at its prime was pretty weird.

A 7+ nose and a less than 5 tiny tail was the total opposite of the 80s fish boards but they still had a purpose.


At least now we have so many options including regular, twin nose, twin tail, etc so everyone can have a happy place.

So glad board shapes have evolved to this point, but I think it would be nice to have more options in the exact twins.

I vaguely seem to remember that there existed a few twin tails even back in the 90s but I can‘t remember. This would still be on topic tho so who knows when the first twin tail came out?
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #543 on: November 14, 2021, 12:54:09 AM »
The Foy twin was my first twin tail. I love the regular Foy85, thought I would be way into this since I suck at all things switch, but I don’t like skating a twin tail. Maybe it was all in my head, but I felt like my flick suffered a ton without a real nose. I still skate mellow boards, but I need a real nose. Oh well, now I know.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #544 on: November 14, 2021, 01:39:28 AM »
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Recently standing on one of those BPSW era at its prime was pretty weird.

A 7+ nose and a less than 5 tiny tail was the total opposite of the 80s fish boards but they still had a purpose.


At least now we have so many options including regular, twin nose, twin tail, etc so everyone can have a happy place.

So glad board shapes have evolved to this point, but I think it would be nice to have more options in the exact twins.
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I vaguely seem to remember that there existed a few twin tails even back in the 90s but I can‘t remember. This would still be on topic tho so who knows when the first twin tail came out?


I am guessing there were more rounded twins out in the early to mid 90s, but as to the first twin tail, anyone remember this?

1990 it was.

Powell Hawk twin tail.

This thing was a scary beast, but it still qualifies for a twin.





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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #545 on: November 14, 2021, 05:15:20 AM »
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Recently standing on one of those BPSW era at its prime was pretty weird.

A 7+ nose and a less than 5 tiny tail was the total opposite of the 80s fish boards but they still had a purpose.


At least now we have so many options including regular, twin nose, twin tail, etc so everyone can have a happy place.

So glad board shapes have evolved to this point, but I think it would be nice to have more options in the exact twins.
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I vaguely seem to remember that there existed a few twin tails even back in the 90s but I can‘t remember. This would still be on topic tho so who knows when the first twin tail came out?
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I am guessing there were more rounded twins out in the early to mid 90s, but as to the first twin tail, anyone remember this?

1990 it was.

Powell Hawk twin tail.

This thing was a scary beast, but it still qualifies for a twin.




yup i clearly remember this board..

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #546 on: November 14, 2021, 09:32:40 AM »
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #547 on: November 14, 2021, 12:08:36 PM »
I remember both those boards..Holyfuck I'm getting old

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #548 on: November 14, 2021, 01:14:06 PM »
Those are sick   8) I remember the Hawk now.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #549 on: November 14, 2021, 02:13:49 PM »
The OG (and pre-Mike V Barnyard)




Wow 1989 - from your link and looking at Sk8cheddar's page.

https://sk8cheddar.com/post/130851956000/vision-double-vision-1989-art-sold-9102015


That is a good one, which I may not have ever seen before - don't know why but Vision didn't really have a big presence where I was growing up.


The brown one is a reissue too, so it has come out again?


That is rad any which way I look at it.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #550 on: November 14, 2021, 02:43:13 PM »
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Wow 1989 - from your link and looking at Sk8cheddar's page.

https://sk8cheddar.com/post/130851956000/vision-double-vision-1989-art-sold-9102015


That is a good one, which I may not have ever seen before - don't know why but Vision didn't really have a big presence where I was growing up.


The brown one is a reissue too, so it has come out again?


That is rad any which way I look at it.



Yup, re-issues are out there, they sell out fast tho!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #551 on: November 14, 2021, 02:58:04 PM »
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Deck feels thick (compared to the neen), shape is very similar to the 8.25 Neen Twin (bigger, duh) more hybrid than twin tail, but closer to a nose.

W: 8.5"
L: 31.9"
WB: 14.33ish
Kicks: 6.75 (6.5 usable from plates)

Was really hoping it was shorter than it is, but it's a nice shape and the kicks are full, like the DLX twin; it doesn't feel long tho, probably due to the width and fullness of the kicks. Coming off a 32" UMA (essentially a b16, regretfully I didn't care for it) it feels stubby.

Edit: it feels like the ishod but I like these kicks/kick shapes better; feels like the 8.3 dlx tt. Didn't skate it too long, as I am pretty sure I have food poisoning :P

Feels good being back on a twin and not caring which way the board is.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #552 on: November 14, 2021, 06:05:26 PM »
Foy



Deck feels thick (compared to the neen), shape is very similar to the 8.25 Neen Twin (bigger, duh) more hybrid than twin tail, but closer to a nose.

W: 8.5"
L: 31.9"
WB: 14.33ish
Kicks: 6.75 (6.5 usable from plates)

Was really hoping it was shorter than it is, but it's a nice shape and the kicks are full, like the DLX twin; it doesn't feel long tho, probably due to the width and fullness of the kicks. Coming off a 32" UMA (essentially a b16, regretfully I didn't care for it) it feels stubby.

Edit: it feels like the ishod but I like these kicks/kick shapes better; feels like the 8.3 dlx tt. Didn't skate it too long, as I am pretty sure I have food poisoning :P

Feels good being back on a twin and not caring which way the board is.
I like what I'm reading... What trucks and wheel size have you tried it with if I may ask?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #553 on: November 14, 2021, 06:21:34 PM »
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Deck feels thick (compared to the neen), shape is very similar to the 8.25 Neen Twin (bigger, duh) more hybrid than twin tail, but closer to a nose.

W: 8.5"
L: 31.9"
WB: 14.33ish
Kicks: 6.75 (6.5 usable from plates)

Was really hoping it was shorter than it is, but it's a nice shape and the kicks are full, like the DLX twin; it doesn't feel long tho, probably due to the width and fullness of the kicks. Coming off a 32" UMA (essentially a b16, regretfully I didn't care for it) it feels stubby.

Edit: it feels like the ishod but I like these kicks/kick shapes better; feels like the 8.3 dlx tt. Didn't skate it too long, as I am pretty sure I have food poisoning :P

Feels good being back on a twin and not caring which way the board is.
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I like what I'm reading... What trucks and wheel size have you tried it with if I may ask?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #554 on: November 14, 2021, 06:44:41 PM »
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Foy



Deck feels thick (compared to the neen), shape is very similar to the 8.25 Neen Twin (bigger, duh) more hybrid than twin tail, but closer to a nose.

W: 8.5"
L: 31.9"
WB: 14.33ish
Kicks: 6.75 (6.5 usable from plates)

Was really hoping it was shorter than it is, but it's a nice shape and the kicks are full, like the DLX twin; it doesn't feel long tho, probably due to the width and fullness of the kicks. Coming off a 32" UMA (essentially a b16, regretfully I didn't care for it) it feels stubby.

Edit: it feels like the ishod but I like these kicks/kick shapes better; feels like the 8.3 dlx tt. Didn't skate it too long, as I am pretty sure I have food poisoning :P

Feels good being back on a twin and not caring which way the board is.
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I like what I'm reading... What trucks and wheel size have you tried it with if I may ask?
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149 Royals (new ones w/IKP), 52mm bones STF V5s
Thanks, I think I'm going to like that one...

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #555 on: November 14, 2021, 07:22:33 PM »
The OG (and pre-Mike V Barnyard)






My brother had that one, built up with G&S trucks and Schmitt SS radials - the wheels with the aluminum core.  He had ordered the 63mm wheels (which were already big for the time) but they sent 68s.   That thing SUCKED at doing anything but going straight.  I don't think he ever learned to kickflip and ended up quitting skating for a decade or so. 

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #556 on: November 18, 2021, 02:53:17 PM »
Having put in some more time with the Foy Twin, it's easily my favorite of what's out there. For an 8.5 if doesn't feel like one at all (coming off an 8.375)...



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #557 on: November 18, 2021, 03:22:30 PM »
This popped up in my ad feed :  https://gliderskateboards.com/collections/frontpage/products/deck-02-twin-tail-iceblink

8 and 8.25" twin tails with 14.3 wheelbase.  Two graphics.  No idea on woodshop.


Width   Wheel Base   Nose   Tail
8.0       14.3''     6.55''   6.55''
8.25      14.3''     6.625''   6.625''



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #558 on: November 18, 2021, 05:32:00 PM »
Who sent who a board?

I kid.

Stacked, the Glider seem much thicker than the DLX.

Can't say the name resonates, but hey, more twin option the better.

Second vid on their page, dude puts it through it's paces. Mentions it being thicker.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #559 on: November 18, 2021, 09:31:20 PM »
They have a normal board listed too, which they have info on (below) too, so I wonder if the twin boards are something else.

Were other Chapman boards a bit thicker?


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Traditional popsicle shape designed with Chapman Skateboards (Zoo York, Supreme, etc.). Pro quality construction that's made with Canadian 7-ply maple wood.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #560 on: November 19, 2021, 07:19:40 AM »
Thanks to this thread and to Xen in particular to have more reliable measures than board companies themselves, I just picked up the Foy Twin but would not have if I trusted the sticker on it that says 14.5 WB.

The graphics is not my cup of tea and I don't like that the bottom ply is not colored, but that's all not very important, what matters to me is that the shape is magnifico and I love that blue top ply!



Xen's measures match mine (8.5, a hair under 32, a hair under 14.33 wb, 6.75 kicks), Deathwish says the concave is mellow but it's my first board from the Baker boys, I wouldn't say it's that mellow but mellower than the DLX twins. If the I is steepest at DLX and IV mellowest, I'd say this is VII or something!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #561 on: November 19, 2021, 08:33:22 AM »
They have a normal board listed too, which they have info on (below) too, so I wonder if the twin boards are something else.

Were other Chapman boards a bit thicker?


https://gliderskateboards.com/products/deck-03-standard-avalyn

Traditional popsicle shape designed with Chapman Skateboards (Zoo York, Supreme, etc.). Pro quality construction that's made with Canadian 7-ply maple wood.

According to the Woodshop thread, Chapman is using Clutch wood.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #562 on: November 19, 2021, 08:45:23 AM »
Thanks to this thread and to Xen in particular to have more reliable measures than board companies themselves, I just picked up the Foy Twin but would not have if I trusted the sticker on it that says 14.5 WB.

The graphics is not my cup of tea and I don't like that the bottom ply is not colored, but that's all not very important, what matters to me is that the shape is magnifico and I love that blue top ply!



Xen's measures match mine (8.5, a hair under 32, a hair under 14.33 wb, 6.75 kicks), Deathwish says the concave is mellow but it's my first board from the Baker boys, I wouldn't say it's that mellow but mellower than the DLX twins. If the I is steepest at DLX and IV mellowest, I'd say this is VII or something!

It's a great shape (same as the 8.25" neen but bigger, seems to differ from the 8.5" neen dimension-wise); it's not baker mellow either, but you are right it is mellower than the DLX I-II range, mine is def not a VII tho by that scale.

The graphics are meh, the babypoop/mustard yellow is meh (I got a green top ply) but it's trashed already and I never really cared....but still...DW graphics have never been at the forefront of the brand.

Waiting for some BF sales to pick up a spare or two.

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« Reply #563 on: November 19, 2021, 09:40:58 AM »
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Thanks to this thread and to Xen in particular to have more reliable measures than board companies themselves, I just picked up the Foy Twin but would not have if I trusted the sticker on it that says 14.5 WB.

The graphics is not my cup of tea and I don't like that the bottom ply is not colored, but that's all not very important, what matters to me is that the shape is magnifico and I love that blue top ply!



Xen's measures match mine (8.5, a hair under 32, a hair under 14.33 wb, 6.75 kicks), Deathwish says the concave is mellow but it's my first board from the Baker boys, I wouldn't say it's that mellow but mellower than the DLX twins. If the I is steepest at DLX and IV mellowest, I'd say this is VII or something!
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It's a great shape (same as the 8.25" neen but bigger, seems to differ from the 8.5" neen dimension-wise); it's not baker mellow either, but you are right it is mellower than the DLX I-II range, mine is def not a VII tho by that scale.

The graphics are meh, the babypoop/mustard yellow is meh (I got a green top ply) but it's trashed already and I never really cared....but still...DW graphics have never been at the forefront of the brand.

Waiting for some BF sales to pick up a spare or two.
Yeah maybe it's closer to DLX's mold IV, I only had Ishods I and I have a Worrest II right now.

But isn't the Neen definitely a twin nose with kicks like 7" long? At 6.75, this is more a hybrid to me, it sits between the Ishod which has 6.55-6.72 tails depending on sizes and the Crob marked at 6.84.

I might pick another too if I see one on sale on BF, it's like the 8.5 Ishod I would have wanted, nicer looking shape that ressembles the smaller Ishod shapes and shorter wheelbase.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #564 on: November 19, 2021, 01:09:47 PM »
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Thanks to this thread and to Xen in particular to have more reliable measures than board companies themselves, I just picked up the Foy Twin but would not have if I trusted the sticker on it that says 14.5 WB.

The graphics is not my cup of tea and I don't like that the bottom ply is not colored, but that's all not very important, what matters to me is that the shape is magnifico and I love that blue top ply!



Xen's measures match mine (8.5, a hair under 32, a hair under 14.33 wb, 6.75 kicks), Deathwish says the concave is mellow but it's my first board from the Baker boys, I wouldn't say it's that mellow but mellower than the DLX twins. If the I is steepest at DLX and IV mellowest, I'd say this is VII or something!
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It's a great shape (same as the 8.25" neen but bigger, seems to differ from the 8.5" neen dimension-wise); it's not baker mellow either, but you are right it is mellower than the DLX I-II range, mine is def not a VII tho by that scale.

The graphics are meh, the babypoop/mustard yellow is meh (I got a green top ply) but it's trashed already and I never really cared....but still...DW graphics have never been at the forefront of the brand.

Waiting for some BF sales to pick up a spare or two.
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Yeah maybe it's closer to DLX's mold IV, I only had Ishods I and I have a Worrest II right now.

But isn't the Neen definitely a twin nose with kicks like 7" long? At 6.75, this is more a hybrid to me, it sits between the Ishod which has 6.55-6.72 tails depending on sizes and the Crob marked at 6.84.

I might pick another too if I see one on sale on BF, it's like the 8.5 Ishod I would have wanted, nicer looking shape that ressembles the smaller Ishod shapes and shorter wheelbase.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #565 on: November 19, 2021, 01:52:54 PM »
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Thanks to this thread and to Xen in particular to have more reliable measures than board companies themselves, I just picked up the Foy Twin but would not have if I trusted the sticker on it that says 14.5 WB.

The graphics is not my cup of tea and I don't like that the bottom ply is not colored, but that's all not very important, what matters to me is that the shape is magnifico and I love that blue top ply!



Xen's measures match mine (8.5, a hair under 32, a hair under 14.33 wb, 6.75 kicks), Deathwish says the concave is mellow but it's my first board from the Baker boys, I wouldn't say it's that mellow but mellower than the DLX twins. If the I is steepest at DLX and IV mellowest, I'd say this is VII or something!
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It's a great shape (same as the 8.25" neen but bigger, seems to differ from the 8.5" neen dimension-wise); it's not baker mellow either, but you are right it is mellower than the DLX I-II range, mine is def not a VII tho by that scale.

The graphics are meh, the babypoop/mustard yellow is meh (I got a green top ply) but it's trashed already and I never really cared....but still...DW graphics have never been at the forefront of the brand.

Waiting for some BF sales to pick up a spare or two.
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Yeah maybe it's closer to DLX's mold IV, I only had Ishods I and I have a Worrest II right now.

But isn't the Neen definitely a twin nose with kicks like 7" long? At 6.75, this is more a hybrid to me, it sits between the Ishod which has 6.55-6.72 tails depending on sizes and the Crob marked at 6.84.

I might pick another too if I see one on sale on BF, it's like the 8.5 Ishod I would have wanted, nicer looking shape that ressembles the smaller Ishod shapes and shorter wheelbase.

The 8.25" Neen (what I referenced) does not have 7" kicks (they're 6.65"ish it's a 31.5" board with a 14.25" WB) maybe the 8.5"vdoes?

Deathwish is killing it with the twins, the 8.25" Neen and the this 8.5" Foy have great dimensions; the 8.5 Neen is too beastly for me (like the 8.5" DLX).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #566 on: November 23, 2021, 01:32:39 PM »
Hi guys! my name is Paul and i'm the owner of Glider Skateboards. Thanks for posting our content.We're just a small brand (husband and wife + some friends who help out on the side), so we seriously appreciate it

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #567 on: November 23, 2021, 01:55:56 PM »
Hi guys! my name is Paul and i'm the owner of Glider Skateboards. Thanks for posting our content.We're just a small brand (husband and wife + some friends who help out on the side), so we seriously appreciate it

Reach out to us on IG or email if you guys ever have any questions about our boards. We've reached out to the YT skateboard community for some reviews to get a feel for the boards too. Plus, feel free to DM us via IG and we'll send over a discount code as a small token of gratitude
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #568 on: November 28, 2021, 04:38:34 PM »
I'm currently skating the 9.75 symmetrical heroin egg and really liking it. Are there any other symmetrical shaped decks I should look at?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #569 on: November 28, 2021, 05:31:52 PM »
I'm currently skating the 9.75 symmetrical heroin egg and really liking it. Are there any other symmetrical shaped decks I should look at?

Nothing that wide but I've had Ishod's twin tail 3 times now and I really like it. I have 10 completes but the Ishod is my goto for everything. I've got CRob's twin paddle on deck for my next. Ishod's/Worrest and Crob's all come in a 8.5. I think you can still get that Toe Knee Hawk board for cheap on eBay it's a 9 I believe. The Grimple fuller deck is not symmetrical even though it looks like it