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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #690 on: February 27, 2022, 04:33:52 PM »
Twin is the truth. I hope those shapes stick around because I can‘t imagine going back. Well for the time being I still have 3 Neen twin noses in my stash.


I think the increased popularity in twin shapes means they are definitely here to stay.

Can't see them taking over from traditional shapes, but I think twin concave would be something that might be more worthwhile, given some molds have a definite nose and tail angle, all for relevant reasons, but having identical concave would mean that boards can be cut as twin or traditional shapes and still perform the same from either end.

Just my thoughts anyway.



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #691 on: February 28, 2022, 10:30:19 AM »
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Twin is the truth. I hope those shapes stick around because I can‘t imagine going back. Well for the time being I still have 3 Neen twin noses in my stash.
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I think the increased popularity in twin shapes means they are definitely here to stay.

Can't see them taking over from traditional shapes, but I think twin concave would be something that might be more worthwhile, given some molds have a definite nose and tail angle, all for relevant reasons, but having identical concave would mean that boards can be cut as twin or traditional shapes and still perform the same from either end.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Agree with that too. There is absolutely a demand, but cant see it taking over the mainstream.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #692 on: February 28, 2022, 04:07:00 PM »
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Twin is the truth. I hope those shapes stick around because I can‘t imagine going back. Well for the time being I still have 3 Neen twin noses in my stash.
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I think the increased popularity in twin shapes means they are definitely here to stay.

Can't see them taking over from traditional shapes, but I think twin concave would be something that might be more worthwhile, given some molds have a definite nose and tail angle, all for relevant reasons, but having identical concave would mean that boards can be cut as twin or traditional shapes and still perform the same from either end.

Just my thoughts anyway.
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Agree with that too. There is absolutely a demand, but cant see it taking over the mainstream.

Thank you guys for the kind words, honest feedback, and being open to our promotion. If anyone is interested in testing out our boards for 50% off of in exchange for a review here, DM us on IG.

We're working on our art direction in the meantime and will be doing our due diligence to work with more skaters too.
Curious to see the state of the market in 5 to 10 years.

Anyway.

G069 incoming tomorrow, and 10 years (10 f*%#@Łg years...sh!t) since my last griptape job. Will be an intersting moment for sure. :D

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #693 on: March 01, 2022, 12:17:48 PM »
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Twin is the truth. I hope those shapes stick around because I can‘t imagine going back. Well for the time being I still have 3 Neen twin noses in my stash.
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I think the increased popularity in twin shapes means they are definitely here to stay.

Can't see them taking over from traditional shapes, but I think twin concave would be something that might be more worthwhile, given some molds have a definite nose and tail angle, all for relevant reasons, but having identical concave would mean that boards can be cut as twin or traditional shapes and still perform the same from either end.

Just my thoughts anyway.
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Agree with that too. There is absolutely a demand, but cant see it taking over the mainstream.

Thank you guys for the kind words, honest feedback, and being open to our promotion. If anyone is interested in testing out our boards for 50% off of in exchange for a review here, DM us on IG.

We're working on our art direction in the meantime and will be doing our due diligence to work with more skaters too.
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Curious to see the state of the market in 5 to 10 years.

Anyway.

G069 incoming tomorrow, and 10 years (10 f*%#@Łg years...sh!t) since my last griptape job. Will be an intersting moment for sure. :D

I think what will dictate the shapes will be what the pros ride and end up doing. Ishod, arguably the best skater right now riding a twin tail was a big step
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #694 on: March 01, 2022, 01:49:07 PM »
I think what will dictate the shapes will be what the pros ride and end up doing. Ishod, arguably the best skater right now (fight me!) riding a twin tail was big for this movement
For sure, and that's why I think the twin shapes will become the new standard soon. Ishod, Neen, Foy, Crob, Malto it seems, (and more?) have there symmetrical promodels, and as I understood Suciu now rides the Owlien shape exclusively. It seems pretty contagious in all pro's generations. To me the different nose and tail thing that remains nowadays is more an old heritage from the primitive eras than a real technical feature. But don't get me wrong, I LOVE the skateboard as it was and as it is. I just think it's the time for a new evolution. Nothing more.

Anyway...other than that, I don't really like Ishod's skateboarding...should I be banned for that? Well, I will see. :D
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #695 on: March 07, 2022, 09:05:41 AM »
Finally tried out the 8.25 Crob this morning. To be honest, I barely skated the last few years, it was my only session in a while, and my long thin legs were incredibly lazy, so this is probably not the most reliable opinion.

On a side note, coming from the 7.5"/7.75" boards era, it's the first time I have an 8.25". I would say that the extra width is finally not too much for my 12/12.5 shoes and was quite enjoyable.

Anyway. About the twin shape, I never really had the feeling that I kicked a nose in normal stance. It's more like a long tail, maybe...it didn't feels strange at all, and I just had more room for my back foot positioning. In fact, I always felt my tails a bit too short with standard shaped boards, so I really appreciated it. Can't wait to try out some tailslides! As a front tip it just feels like a classic nose without any weirdness, nothing more, nothing less. Flip tricks and noseslides just felt good.
I thought the steepness was really on point, not too steep, not too flat, just the right amount to match a nose and a tail...

Honestly the weirdest thing about that board is that you don't have to bother the way you ride it.

At this point I can't say that I'll never go back to a standard nose/tail shape, but I have a really good overall impression so far.

EDIT : a (almost) new twin in the wild - AWS Frankie Spears, based on the original Owlien Twin it seems, 8.375" and 8.5".
https://www.alienworkshop.com/products/frankie-revelation-8-375-8-5?_pos=1&_sid=595b573e4&_ss=r
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #696 on: March 09, 2022, 06:47:18 PM »
Has anyone tried an 8.3 ishod twin tail w/ venture 5.2 hi or 5.2 lo?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #697 on: March 10, 2022, 09:20:15 PM »
Posted in the woodshop thread but Habitat's latest Mark Suciu in 8.38 is supposed to be a TT (8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 - Proprietary symmetrical shape)

https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #698 on: March 11, 2022, 02:48:32 AM »
Posted in the woodshop thread but Habitat's latest Mark Suciu in 8.38 is supposed to be a TT (8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 - Proprietary symmetrical shape)

https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375


Interesting they first had the Owlien twin, now they have specific boards for team riders in the same twin shape, this one and as Solex said earlier for the AWS brand, there is the Spears board.

Guessing it was popular, but I wonder do those guys ride that board, or is it just put out with their name on it?


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #699 on: March 11, 2022, 02:59:37 AM »
Posted in the woodshop thread but Habitat's latest Mark Suciu in 8.38 is supposed to be a TT (8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 - Proprietary symmetrical shape)

https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375
The machine is in motion. :D

A slightly more compact version of this shape (width/lenght/wb) would be very interesting though.

EDIT : Suciu's model is also avaliable in 8.25" width, so with the Spears's model we now have 8.25"/8.375"/8.5" width. /!\ Only 8.375" models are symmetrical! /!\

EDIT 2 : Habitat Apex Bold Twin 8.375", same symmetrical shape. (Already spotted?)
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-8-25?_pos=1&_sid=32616cead&_ss=r


Guessing it was popular, but I wonder do those guys ride that board, or is it just put out with their name on it?
I read around here that it became the Suciu's 'go to' shape. No clue about Spears though...
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #700 on: March 11, 2022, 06:28:18 AM »
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Posted in the woodshop thread but Habitat's latest Mark Suciu in 8.38 is supposed to be a TT (8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 - Proprietary symmetrical shape)

https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375
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The machine is in motion. :D

A slightly more compact version of this shape (width/lenght/wb) would be very interesting though.

EDIT : Suciu's model is also avaliable in 8.25" width, so with the Spears's model we now have 8.25"/8.375"/8.5" width.

EDIT 2 : Habitat Apex Bold Twin 8.375", same symmetrical shape. (Already spotted?)
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-8-25?_pos=1&_sid=32616cead&_ss=r

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Guessing it was popular, but I wonder do those guys ride that board, or is it just put out with their name on it?
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I read around here that it became the Suciu's 'go to' shape. No clue about Spears though...

I think the story is that Spears was riding that twin shape already, Suciu tried his board around a year or so ago and started riding it since.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #701 on: March 11, 2022, 02:40:34 PM »
I think the story is that Spears was riding that twin shape already, Suciu tried his board around a year or so ago and started riding it since.
Oh okay!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #702 on: March 11, 2022, 04:30:06 PM »
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Posted in the woodshop thread but Habitat's latest Mark Suciu in 8.38 is supposed to be a TT (8.375 X 32.25 WB 14.375 - Proprietary symmetrical shape)

https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/suciu-soty-8-25-8-375
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The machine is in motion. :D

A slightly more compact version of this shape (width/lenght/wb) would be very interesting though.

EDIT : Suciu's model is also avaliable in 8.25" width, so with the Spears's model we now have 8.25"/8.375"/8.5" width.

EDIT 2 : Habitat Apex Bold Twin 8.375", same symmetrical shape. (Already spotted?)
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-8-25?_pos=1&_sid=32616cead&_ss=r

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Guessing it was popular, but I wonder do those guys ride that board, or is it just put out with their name on it?
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I read around here that it became the Suciu's 'go to' shape. No clue about Spears though...
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I think the story is that Spears was riding that twin shape already, Suciu tried his board around a year or so ago and started riding it since.


Thanks.

Seems like a familiar story with Bobby Worrest riding an Ishod board and then saying "I'll have one of those too" or something similar.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #703 on: March 11, 2022, 04:43:36 PM »
Every now and again I will email SS asking for the aws square 8.25 as a twin, they never respond ;)

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #704 on: March 11, 2022, 05:07:41 PM »

Cross post from the Egg thread, but could also be in the twin thread with this series.

Not sure if any people who frequent this thread / regular twin riders would go this big, but it is interesting to see them coming out more frequently in these shapes and sizes too.



Fos always lists the width over the trucks in the catalog and the Curb Killer is 9.5:
https://heroin.myshopify.com/pages/summer-2022-catalog


It definitely makes it easier with those extra details.






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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #705 on: March 11, 2022, 05:41:42 PM »
^^ I still have my symmetrical egg =D

8.75" trucks for that 9.25" BTW.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #706 on: March 11, 2022, 10:23:36 PM »

Cross post from the Egg thread, but could also be in the twin thread with this series.

Not sure if any people who frequent this thread / regular twin riders would go this big, but it is interesting to see them coming out more frequently in these shapes and sizes too.


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Fos always lists the width over the trucks in the catalog and the Curb Killer is 9.5:
https://heroin.myshopify.com/pages/summer-2022-catalog
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It definitely makes it easier with those extra details.




I have been eyeballing those. Would it be too much of a magic carpet riding the smaller one with 149s?
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #707 on: March 11, 2022, 10:49:26 PM »
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Cross post from the Egg thread, but could also be in the twin thread with this series.

Not sure if any people who frequent this thread / regular twin riders would go this big, but it is interesting to see them coming out more frequently in these shapes and sizes too.


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Fos always lists the width over the trucks in the catalog and the Curb Killer is 9.5:
https://heroin.myshopify.com/pages/summer-2022-catalog
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It definitely makes it easier with those extra details.



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I have been eyeballing those. Would it be too much of a magic carpet riding the smaller one with 149s?


For some, it might be a bit too much under, but it also depends on what width wheels and putting all washers on the inside too.

They have another one (not a twin) I posted a pic of from the catalog in the egg thread that is 8.9 wide and 8.5 over the truck area, just in case that would be more suitable.  Link here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.msg3756254#msg3756254


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #708 on: March 11, 2022, 10:54:11 PM »
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Cross post from the Egg thread, but could also be in the twin thread with this series.

Not sure if any people who frequent this thread / regular twin riders would go this big, but it is interesting to see them coming out more frequently in these shapes and sizes too.


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Fos always lists the width over the trucks in the catalog and the Curb Killer is 9.5:
https://heroin.myshopify.com/pages/summer-2022-catalog
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It definitely makes it easier with those extra details.



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I have been eyeballing those. Would it be too much of a magic carpet riding the smaller one with 149s?
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For some, it might be a bit too much under, but it also depends on what width wheels and putting all washers on the inside too.

They have another one (not a twin) I posted a pic of from the catalog in the egg thread that is 8.9 wide and 8.5 over the truck area, just in case that would be more suitable.  Link here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=100279.msg3756254#msg3756254

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #709 on: March 28, 2022, 03:22:13 AM »

As per post from @Mcidraque in other threads:



never had a twin tip before but these new girl shapes seem tempting (8,25 and 8,5) both in 14" wb

https://crailstore.ca/collections/girl-skateboards-decks/products/girl-skateboards-sean-malto-double-og-twin-tip-deck-8-5

https://crailstore.ca/collections/girl-skateboards-decks/products/girl-skateboarding-sean-malto-double-og-twin-tip-deck-8-25



Interesting they call them "twin tips" too, like they are longer than twin tails but not quite twin noses, so twin tips seems to work well.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #710 on: March 28, 2022, 03:23:04 AM »
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Don't know if you guys have peeped any of these new "twin tips", but as a fan of the G052 shape the 8.25" seems to be pretty much the same (dimensions wise). Would love to hear opinions in case any of you have skated one. Cheers!

https://crailstore.ca/collections/girl-skateboards-decks/products/girl-skateboarding-sean-malto-double-og-twin-tip-deck-8-25

(link to the g052 shape for reference)
https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g052
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I’m also curious. Is this the same shape as the chocolate Chris roberts twin shape?



I am guessing it would be going by those dimensions and being an existing shape / size, but don't know for sure.


Yes - same shape number too, so that would be a YES.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #711 on: March 28, 2022, 04:06:47 AM »
I shared this video on the thread a month ago, but it wasn't on the crailstore at this time.



G069 and G096 not yet referenced in the shape guide though.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #712 on: April 03, 2022, 12:29:16 PM »
Picked up the 8.375" Suciu twin.

Kicks are long and squared (but not crazy) + the 32.25" just makes it feel like a long narrow plank.

It's not what I'm after. But it works for Mark and might work for you!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #713 on: April 03, 2022, 02:14:08 PM »
Picked up the 8.375" Suciu twin.

Kicks are long and squared (but not crazy) + the 32.25" just makes it feel like a long narrow plank.

It's not what I'm after. But it works for Mark and might work for you!

Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #714 on: April 03, 2022, 02:33:11 PM »
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Picked up the 8.375" Suciu twin.

Kicks are long and squared (but not crazy) + the 32.25" just makes it feel like a long narrow plank.

It's not what I'm after. But it works for Mark and might work for you!
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out

The AWS Owlien Twin and the Habita Apex/Suciu SOTY (8.375 size only) are all twins. Definitely twin noses and not tails like the Ishod (or the even the Foy which feels more like a hybrid and still my favorite twin so far. Would like it even more at 8.3); if you threw on a kick from an Ishod and one from the Hab/AWS you'd have a regular directional nose/tail board.

I'd probably be able to hang with the shape if it were shorter (shrinking the kicks a bit).
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #715 on: April 03, 2022, 02:38:09 PM »
Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #716 on: April 07, 2022, 11:03:31 AM »
quasi twin tails in the new drop, bbs pressed
8.125
31.8/14.0wb
8.375
31.75/14.25wb

8.125 pictured
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #717 on: April 07, 2022, 11:43:48 AM »
quasi twin tails in the new drop, bbs pressed
8.125
31.8/14.0wb
8.375
31.75/14.25wb

8.125 pictured


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #718 on: April 07, 2022, 11:54:50 AM »
quasi twin tails in the new drop, bbs pressed
8.125
31.8/14.0wb
8.375
31.75/14.25wb

Nice. I'd be curious to see real world measures though, seems odd that the wider 8.375 has a 1/4" longer wheelbase than the 8.125 yet is listed as 0.05 shorter overall... That would mean it has shorter tails or that, like what seems like 90% of board companies, the listed numbers are wrong.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #719 on: April 07, 2022, 12:56:50 PM »
Man, a quasi 8.25 twin proto would have been killer.