Twin tail

[Paperclip20]

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Glider IceBlink 8.5" Twin Tail
Thunder 149 Hollow Lights
Spitfire F4 Classics 53mm
Bones Big Balls
Diamond 7/8" allen hardware

Super fun first session, totally weird trying to not throw the board down the same way every trick. I may need to get some new bushings because these do lean a bit one way but I haven't found the new thunder replacement bushings anywhere.

The shape is awesome, shout out to @Paul_gliderskateboards

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What are the length/WB specs on these?

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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Cross post from set up Thread

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Glider IceBlink 8.5" Twin Tail
Thunder 149 Hollow Lights
Spitfire F4 Classics 53mm
Bones Big Balls
Diamond 7/8" allen hardware

Super fun first session, totally weird trying to not throw the board down the same way every trick. I may need to get some new bushings because these do lean a bit one way but I haven't found the new thunder replacement bushings anywhere.

The shape is awesome, shout out to @Paul_gliderskateboards

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What are the length/WB specs on these?

 
     Wheel Base   Tail            Nose     Length
8.5   14.4           6.625    6.625     31.85

Haven’t confirmed with a tape measure yet, these are pulled from their website

[Paul_Glider Skateboards]

Appreciate the shoutout, and happy to hear you enjoy the board!

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[Xen]

I love this Quasi TT. I think it’s very steep but normally I’ve been skating flat 7.5s, so I’m probably not the best judge for that. Flips pretty effortlessly though compared to the 8.3 Ishod I’ve had.

I've tried a ton of twins, the Quasi 8.375 is the best by far/so far for me. Not too big, not too small, just the right amount of everything. Going to suck when the fad is over and we can't get them anymore =(

[Fhk]

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I love this Quasi TT. I think it’s very steep but normally I’ve been skating flat 7.5s, so I’m probably not the best judge for that. Flips pretty effortlessly though compared to the 8.3 Ishod I’ve had.

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I've tried a ton of twins, the Quasi 8.375 is the best by far/so far for me. Not too big, not too small, just the right amount of everything. Going to suck when the fad is over and we can't get them anymore =(

That’s exactly what I’m thinking man

[iw0]

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I love this Quasi TT. I think it’s very steep but normally I’ve been skating flat 7.5s, so I’m probably not the best judge for that. Flips pretty effortlessly though compared to the 8.3 Ishod I’ve had.

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I've tried a ton of twins, the Quasi 8.375 is the best by far/so far for me. Not too big, not too small, just the right amount of everything. Going to suck when the fad is over and we can't get them anymore =(

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That’s exactly what I’m thinking man

this is going to sound dark but - i foresee brands & board co's going away before twin tails go away entirely. idk if that's worse or better when it comes to the ability to get a beloved shape

[Xen]

Both have been happening for over a decade; that was really the last twin kick fad (mystery, creature and plan b were the only options).

Now, a few reputable companies are making them and yes, there are [too] many board brands out there.

If I had to guess, dlx and maybe welcome (since it fits well with their unique shape image) will keep the twins in rotation, possibly deathwish for as long as foy is popular and they keep giving neen a board.

[iw0]

Both have been happening for over a decade; that was really the last twin kick fad (mystery, creature and plan b were the only options).

Now, a few reputable companies are making them and yes, there are [too] many board brands out there.

If I had to guess, dlx and maybe welcome (since it fits well with they’re unique shape image) will keep the twins in rotation, possibly deathwish for as long as foy is popular and they keep giving neen a board.

tbh i dipped for that era lol, would you say the pro's associated with TT decks these days are a bigger deal than prior eras?

[Xen]

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Both have been happening for over a decade; that was really the last twin kick fad (mystery, creature and plan b were the only options).

Now, a few reputable companies are making them and yes, there are [too] many board brands out there.

If I had to guess, dlx and maybe welcome (since it fits well with they’re unique shape image) will keep the twins in rotation, possibly deathwish for as long as foy is popular and they keep giving neen a board.

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tbh i dipped for that era lol, would you say the pro's associated with TT decks these days are a bigger deal than prior eras?

I'd say so. Not sure how many people were buying the Mystery Jimmy Carlin Symetry boards

[Paul_Glider Skateboards]

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Both have been happening for over a decade; that was really the last twin kick fad (mystery, creature and plan b were the only options).

Now, a few reputable companies are making them and yes, there are [too] many board brands out there.

If I had to guess, dlx and maybe welcome (since it fits well with they’re unique shape image) will keep the twins in rotation, possibly deathwish for as long as foy is popular and they keep giving neen a board.

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tbh i dipped for that era lol, would you say the pro's associated with TT decks these days are a bigger deal than prior eras?

I'd say so. ishod, foy, neen, suciu, malto, and crob (nine club) hold a lot of weight.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

It’s been fun watching the scrapes develop evenly on each side, I haven’t really been worrying about which way I put the board down but if I notice I’m getting more wear on one side I’ll swap it around. The crooks marks at each corner are especially satisfying

[Xen]

It’s been fun watching the scrapes develop evenly on each side, I haven’t really been worrying about which way I put the board down but if I notice I’m getting more wear on one side I’ll swap it around. The crooks marks at each corner are especially satisfying

I do the same thing, if I see I'm skating more one way (usually due to not falling off), I switch on purpose.

[JANUS]

I just started skating an 8.5 twin tail Ishod deck. It’s been really fun so far, but I’ve not spent enough time on it to have a serious impression of it. I normally skate baker OG mellow shapes, and it feels relatively similar in terms of concave and kick steepness (minus a steeper/longer nose).

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I just started skating an 8.5 twin tail Ishod deck. It’s been really fun so far, but I’ve not spent enough time on it to have a serious impression of it. I normally skate baker OG mellow shapes, and it feels relatively similar in terms of concave and kick steepness (minus a steeper/longer nose).

I love the shape on that Ishod TT. I don't think I'll ever be a dedicated twin tail only rider, but I'm loving mine and I'll probably keep one in the quiver

[GnarAlarm]

I tried a twin tail. Hated it.
I skate my back truck a little tighter than my front, which I skate very loose.
Plus my front truck got the crooks groove, so I still skated it in only one direction.
I basically just had a board with a tiny nose.
Totally pointless (for me)

[TwisT]

Welcome has a new twin shape in 8.25, 8.5, and 8.75 "evil twin" shape.

[Idk]

Every brand is trying out a twin shape it seems. The Mark McKee chromeball had a picture of dimensions Rodney Mullen wrote way back in 91/92 I think and lots of the pro models had same size nose and tail length. Hopefully more brands incorporate it. Some more 8.0 twins are needed.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I tried a twin tail. Hated it.
I skate my back truck a little tighter than my front, which I skate very loose.
Plus my front truck got the crooks groove, so I still skated it in only one direction.
I basically just had a board with a tiny nose.
Totally pointless (for me)

yeah, if you don't run your trucks (fairly) even, it definitely won't work. I actually bought a thunder rebuild kit when I set up mine to get them as fresh as possible.

The Glider I'm riding is really fat and round on both ends which is my ideal shape. However, I'll still keep my standard set ups. The TT is just a really fun board to pull out every couple of sessions.

[j....soy.....]

Seems weird welcome picked such a plain Jane shape….I think they could have at least thrown in two sets of money bumps…..

Like if && dropped a double dill…

[Idk]

For me and probably others a twin tail is so I could do a switch front shuv then continue and do a switch 50-50 without having to do a fakie or another switch shuv in between. I can just go and do a switch 50 off the tail it just feels weird when you are so used to popping off the nose switch. If both nose and tail are same steepness and length this issue goes away.

[j....soy.....]

When I skate a twin my switch meter goes up 15%, my nollie game drops 20% and my shuvs increase by 100%. 

[Mbrimson88]

Welcome has a new twin shape in 8.25, 8.5, and 8.75 "evil twin" shape.

Having a twin in 8.75 is a first isn't it?

Also having 6.75 kicks would definitely appeal to more people who have wanted a little more on their kicks, compared to the smaller or shorter twins with around 6.5 kicks.

Should be a shape more people would ride, so I can see why they would bring that out, as the rest of their product seems to have dated and I hardly see anyone around with a Welcome deck anymore.



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https://welcomeskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/bird-brain-on-evil-twin-black-prism-foil-8-75


Looked it up and it says 14.75 wb which is pretty long as well.

Not sure how many people would be going for that, but for a bigger, wider and now I see longer board, I guess it all makes sense.

The others are much shorter wheelbases, from what I can see.


8.25" x 31.95"  with a 14.0" Wheelbase

8.5" x 31.95"  with a 14.25" Wheelbase

8.75" x 32.45"  with a 14.75" Wheelbase

[Roisto]

That 14.75” wheelbase 8.75” twin sounds very intriguing for me. Unfortunately it’s a Welcome and those aren’t sold by any shops in Finland and online they’re quite expensive in Europe for some reason.

On the site it says you should run it with 139s or 149s which is a bit weird. I’d think 159s would surely fit better. Doesn’t look like it tapers much at all. Shape looks really nice IMO.

For the graphic they could’ve done something symmetrical. I love when twin tails have a symmetrical graphic also. Makes it a bit more fun for me.

[Mbrimson88]

That 14.75” wheelbase 8.75” twin sounds very intriguing for me. Unfortunately it’s a Welcome and those aren’t sold by any shops in Finland and online they’re quite expensive in Europe for some reason.

On the site it says you should run it with 139s or 149s which is a bit weird. I’d think 159s would surely fit better. Doesn’t look like it tapers much at all. Shape looks really nice IMO.

For the graphic they could’ve done something symmetrical. I love when twin tails have a symmetrical graphic also. Makes it a bit more fun for me.

Re truck widths, I am thinking their site page was just a template they didn't update, as it says that for all of the twins, but was correct for a few other boards of different sizes.  Definitely including 159s on 8.75 decks.

Looks like the shape does run really nicely - straight through the rail.

From what I can see of a few graphics, at least one is a "twin graphic" as per the 8.25 in the earlier pic and this link below, but I agree a twin almost seems lacking if it doesn't have some sort of symmetrical graphic on it.  I think Welcome is the only company that has kept a specific named graphic and a specific named shape throughout the company, almost like a first and last name, but always NAME on SHAPE for every board.


https://welcomeskateboards.com/products/peggy-on-evil-twin-white-8-25

[SwitchBigspinflipBoneless]

Currently skating a TT Girl 8.25 and really enjoying it.

Was talking at the skatepark and someone said they view having a nose and a tail like a multi-tool, with each one suited a bit better for different tricks. What do people think? Had never thought of it like that but could see his point

[Firebert]

Currently skating a TT Girl 8.25 and really enjoying it.

Was talking at the skatepark and someone said they view having a nose and a tail like a multi-tool, with each one suited a bit better for different tricks. What do people think? Had never thought of it like that but could see his point

He's probably parroting what Paul Schmitt was saying on the 9club - they have a point, I guess, however I don't think I will ever turn my board around and pop an ollie off my nose to try and clear a gap that I'm otherwise shorting. That example seemed silly to me, but I guess it happened.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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Currently skating a TT Girl 8.25 and really enjoying it.

Was talking at the skatepark and someone said they view having a nose and a tail like a multi-tool, with each one suited a bit better for different tricks. What do people think? Had never thought of it like that but could see his point

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He's probably parroting what Paul Schmitt was saying on the 9club - they have a point, I guess, however I don't think I will ever turn my board around and pop an ollie off my nose to try and clear a gap that I'm otherwise shorting. That example seemed silly to me, but I guess it happened.

Yeah, in theory it makes sense, but after listening to that episode I tried it for a couple tricks that weren't working and......they still didn't work off the nose. If anything it was worse since my board felt totally foreign. Maybe for pros who have insane control it could work that the extra angle/pop off the nose gets them the extra couple inches of height or whatever.

[Skatebeard]

Currently skating a TT Girl 8.25 and really enjoying it.

Was talking at the skatepark and someone said they view having a nose and a tail like a multi-tool, with each one suited a bit better for different tricks. What do people think? Had never thought of it like that but could see his point

Same deck and loving it, need to pick up another one soon.

I've no desire to go back to a regular nose/tail board for the type of skating i do, a lot of flatground stuff and favour fakie tricks over nollie...i'm noticing this deck lasting quite a bit longer due to the nose and tail getting roughly equal wear. Perfect deck for me tbh.

[Xen]

All the tricks I thought I 'needed' to do off the nose after riding a twin didn't actually need to be done off the nose; minor timing/foot placement adjustments were all that was needed.

It's actually harder to 'let go' the need to switch your board around or just jump on and go without needing to look down or think about your board.

[Idk]

There’s just not enough 8.0 twins. I used to skate the Ishod 8.3 but after learning switch heels on an 8.0 I haven’t sized up again.