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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1410 on: January 06, 2024, 06:04:48 PM »
Ordered the McCrank twin tip at 8.25". Does anyone know if the concave continues to the nose/tail, or are these completely flat? That would be a mega bummer.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1411 on: January 06, 2024, 08:08:13 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


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SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8



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LENGTH (IN):   32.61
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Ha yeah, I could see some people would be stoked and others not so stoked on that upping the size, width, length and wheelbase.

Might have been best to go with a uniform length and wheelbase and just go wider, eg X, Y or Z wide, then all 32 long and 14.375 wb on all of them?


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1412 on: January 08, 2024, 09:56:44 AM »
Ordered the McCrank twin tip at 8.25". Does anyone know if the concave continues to the nose/tail, or are these completely flat? That would be a mega bummer.

The board arrived today. I am devastated. This thing, although it has decent kicks and plenty concave in the middle, for some reason the concave completely stops at the tips. I mean that the nose and tail are fully flat so when the board sits on a noseslide, the entire surface of the nose touches. Otherwise, the board looks like it has an amazing shape and this ads insult to injury as I feel this would have been such a good ride. Nose/tail are perfect lengthwise (not too long or too short).

If there is anyone based in the UK who can skate this type of boards, you can PM me and I will send the board at a heavy discount. The board is fully sealed in original shrink-wrap with a girl sticker and will come with a sheet of Jessup.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1413 on: January 08, 2024, 10:01:46 AM »
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Ordered the McCrank twin tip at 8.25". Does anyone know if the concave continues to the nose/tail, or are these completely flat? That would be a mega bummer.
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The board arrived today. I am devastated. This thing, although it has decent kicks and plenty concave in the middle, for some reason the concave completely stops at the tips. I mean that the nose and tail are fully flat so when the board sits on a noseslide, the entire surface of the nose touches. Otherwise, the board looks like it has an amazing shape and this ads insult to injury as I feel this would have been such a good ride. Nose/tail are perfect lengthwise (not too long or too short).

If there is anyone based in the UK who can skate this type of boards, you can PM me and I will send the board at a heavy discount. The board is fully sealed in original shrink-wrap with a girl sticker and will come with a sheet of Jessup.

I've had this deck before and didn't notice that, but something always felt off. How does the missing concave hinder your skating?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1414 on: January 08, 2024, 10:05:37 AM »
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Ordered the McCrank twin tip at 8.25". Does anyone know if the concave continues to the nose/tail, or are these completely flat? That would be a mega bummer.
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The board arrived today. I am devastated. This thing, although it has decent kicks and plenty concave in the middle, for some reason the concave completely stops at the tips. I mean that the nose and tail are fully flat so when the board sits on a noseslide, the entire surface of the nose touches. Otherwise, the board looks like it has an amazing shape and this ads insult to injury as I feel this would have been such a good ride. Nose/tail are perfect lengthwise (not too long or too short).

If there is anyone based in the UK who can skate this type of boards, you can PM me and I will send the board at a heavy discount. The board is fully sealed in original shrink-wrap with a girl sticker and will come with a sheet of Jessup.
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I've had this deck before and didn't notice that, but something always felt off. How does the missing concave hinder your skating?

It does not hinder the skating, just feels weird. It feels as if the tips are convex instead of concave  :)

Edit: I skated boards like this in the past and hated them. This is the first thing I check for when I buy a board at a skateshop, but I bought this one online (from a brick & mortar shop)

Edit2: To check, I place the board on a flat surface and try to rock the board as if I am trying to flip it. This board sits fully flat.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1415 on: January 08, 2024, 10:12:56 AM »
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Ordered the McCrank twin tip at 8.25". Does anyone know if the concave continues to the nose/tail, or are these completely flat? That would be a mega bummer.
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The board arrived today. I am devastated. This thing, although it has decent kicks and plenty concave in the middle, for some reason the concave completely stops at the tips. I mean that the nose and tail are fully flat so when the board sits on a noseslide, the entire surface of the nose touches. Otherwise, the board looks like it has an amazing shape and this ads insult to injury as I feel this would have been such a good ride. Nose/tail are perfect lengthwise (not too long or too short).

If there is anyone based in the UK who can skate this type of boards, you can PM me and I will send the board at a heavy discount. The board is fully sealed in original shrink-wrap with a girl sticker and will come with a sheet of Jessup.
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I've had this deck before and didn't notice that, but something always felt off. How does the missing concave hinder your skating?
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It does not hinder the skating, just feels weird. It feels as if the tips are convex instead of concave  :)

Edit: I skated boards like this in the past and hated them. This is the first thing I check for when I buy a board at a skateshop, but I bought this one online (from a brick & mortar shop)
Well I'll start noticing it from now on. More to get mad about, but I don't think it actually bothers me. Are you doing noseslide to crook combos or something like that? I imagine that's where it would suck the most. As far as I know, all DLX (Or even all BBS?) decks have the concave on the tips.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1416 on: January 08, 2024, 10:18:42 AM »
Lots of skaters especially Pros like that really flat no concave feel. Especially crailtap boards. Old 90s boards were so flat I’m guessing that’s where they got used to it and just kept it the same.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1417 on: January 08, 2024, 10:31:05 AM »
@goodatmeth   Yes, none of the BBS decks I have had came with flat tips. Recently I have seen it on Palace, Cafe, and Santa Cruz VX decks. I am not that crazy about noseslide to crook, but I can see how it might be an issue although only minor. For me it completely has to do with the feeling when I step on a tip to pop.

@Idk  I first noticed this "feature" on some very cheap boards at around the end of 2000's. Been skating since 1985 and never had this problem. I had heaps of crailtap boards that were not like this, but those were PS for sure.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1418 on: January 08, 2024, 04:15:40 PM »
@goodatmeth   Yes, none of the BBS decks I have had came with flat tips. Recently I have seen it on Palace, Cafe, and Santa Cruz VX decks. I am not that crazy about noseslide to crook, but I can see how it might be an issue although only minor. For me it completely has to do with the feeling when I step on a tip to pop.

@Idk  I first noticed this "feature" on some very cheap boards at around the end of 2000's. Been skating since 1985 and never had this problem. I had heaps of crailtap boards that were not like this, but those were PS for sure.

Thanks both for engaging, I am gonna go crazy with the madness..


This is exactly why I don't skate any other boards besides BBS, the one exception being a sample mold that was supposed to be made from a BBS board, but still felt off.

There are other woodshops and other people out there trying to make board molds with "spoon shaped" kicks, but they still don't compare to the usually comfortable "spoon shaped concave" on the kicks of BBS boards, so rather than trying to make any other board with flat faced kicks work, I know I just will not feel comfortable on them so don't try at all.

I can see this as something of a fault or even a weakness, but when it comes to skating, similar time frame to you, started mid 80s and rode a whole lot of whatever I could get my hands on in the past, the last twenty odd years, I have been really getting most comfortable on what I choose to ride, the right concave of a board being the main thing, over anything else.

Sometimes seeing a brand or even a good special on the right dimensions has been something to check, but I know if it doesn't feel right, I am not even going to set it up now - had too many, even from recently that I have tried to make work, but just ended up not enjoying it, so then pass it on to someone else or leave it in the stack of used boards maybe to come back to at some point, but really I should just let them go.


What have been your more recent boards you have skated - guessing they might have been BBS wood?


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1419 on: January 08, 2024, 05:01:11 PM »
The Foy is def my fav 8.5 so far; it's super easy/comfy to skate (it measures a hair under 32 as well), it's perfectly middle of the road when it comes to concave/kicks and shape, and if actually skates more like an 8.3ish. But like the quasi and worrest the kicks do feel a bit short (but that might be the habitat talking). Does your quasi measure true?

I've ridden 4 Foys, the current one is on it's way out (but I've been skating it more directionally to make it last) with one left on ice I recently nabbed for free...should have grabbed a few since they are only available via baker bros site (at that $75 premium).

Hoping the Toy works out and they keep it in rotation (I'll grab a couple if I end up liking it).
It's also thinner/light feeling by comparison, but that's why it's gonna sog out in two weeks.

I cannot stand the Habitat twin...ideally I'd be 32"x8.5" with the longer wb and then scale down accordingly...having the 8.3 be as long but with the longer wb is just....weird...I blame Suciu. I did like the longer kicks, I felt more comfortable doing switch/fakie slappy/tricks with more kick room.




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The Foy has been supplanted for the Toy.  Had to buy another toy to put on ice (they're selling out at most most places and selling at crazy prices already on ebay).

After skating so many BBS twins that are essentially the same shape (twin noses) sans the habitat twin nose, it's nice to have a thin, flat, flexi twin nose that has a regular nose shape; I love how flat it is.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1420 on: January 08, 2024, 10:18:56 PM »
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The Foy is def my fav 8.5 so far; it's super easy/comfy to skate (it measures a hair under 32 as well), it's perfectly middle of the road when it comes to concave/kicks and shape, and if actually skates more like an 8.3ish. But like the quasi and worrest the kicks do feel a bit short (but that might be the habitat talking). Does your quasi measure true?

I've ridden 4 Foys, the current one is on it's way out (but I've been skating it more directionally to make it last) with one left on ice I recently nabbed for free...should have grabbed a few since they are only available via baker bros site (at that $75 premium).

Hoping the Toy works out and they keep it in rotation (I'll grab a couple if I end up liking it).
It's also thinner/light feeling by comparison, but that's why it's gonna sog out in two weeks.

I cannot stand the Habitat twin...ideally I'd be 32"x8.5" with the longer wb and then scale down accordingly...having the 8.3 be as long but with the longer wb is just....weird...I blame Suciu. I did like the longer kicks, I felt more comfortable doing switch/fakie slappy/tricks with more kick room.




Now...149 Thunder Ti, 5.8 Venture Hollow or 149 Indy ti....with either cast hollow or forged hollow plates...leaning towards Forged thunder / indy as I don't want to push out the WB too much.

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The Foy has been supplanted for the Toy.  Had to buy another toy to put on ice (they're selling out at most most places and selling at crazy prices already on ebay).

After skating so many BBS twins that are essentially the same shape (twin noses) sans the habitat twin nose, it's nice to have a thin, flat, flexi twin nose that has a regular nose shape; I love how flat it is.

I hated the habitat shape too, something about it feeling too long and narrow. Besides the concave are the kicks mellow too on the toy? Or on the steeper side.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1421 on: January 08, 2024, 10:55:08 PM »
The habitat is too long for me, I knew better as I prefer 32” down to 31.75”…

The kicks are super flat, check the pic ☝️

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1422 on: January 09, 2024, 01:31:43 AM »
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@goodatmeth   Yes, none of the BBS decks I have had came with flat tips. Recently I have seen it on Palace, Cafe, and Santa Cruz VX decks. I am not that crazy about noseslide to crook, but I can see how it might be an issue although only minor. For me it completely has to do with the feeling when I step on a tip to pop.

@Idk  I first noticed this "feature" on some very cheap boards at around the end of 2000's. Been skating since 1985 and never had this problem. I had heaps of crailtap boards that were not like this, but those were PS for sure.

Thanks both for engaging, I am gonna go crazy with the madness..
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This is exactly why I don't skate any other boards besides BBS, the one exception being a sample mold that was supposed to be made from a BBS board, but still felt off.

There are other woodshops and other people out there trying to make board molds with "spoon shaped" kicks, but they still don't compare to the usually comfortable "spoon shaped concave" on the kicks of BBS boards, so rather than trying to make any other board with flat faced kicks work, I know I just will not feel comfortable on them so don't try at all.

I can see this as something of a fault or even a weakness, but when it comes to skating, similar time frame to you, started mid 80s and rode a whole lot of whatever I could get my hands on in the past, the last twenty odd years, I have been really getting most comfortable on what I choose to ride, the right concave of a board being the main thing, over anything else.

Sometimes seeing a brand or even a good special on the right dimensions has been something to check, but I know if it doesn't feel right, I am not even going to set it up now - had too many, even from recently that I have tried to make work, but just ended up not enjoying it, so then pass it on to someone else or leave it in the stack of used boards maybe to come back to at some point, but really I should just let them go.


What have been your more recent boards you have skated - guessing they might have been BBS wood?

For the last 4-5 years I have been skating the Sour 8.18" (usually Daniels Spangs pro model but more recently Vincent Huhta). I am aware that Sour are pressed by HLC, and this shop makes shitty flat tipped boards but also decent ones like the one I usually ride. Other than that, During the last 5 years I have also skated Baker, Deathwish, Magenta, Girl, Chocolate. None of these decks had this flat tip issue where they feel like a cheap toys R us board.
Let me add that I like super mellow concaves, and the Sour 8.18 that I usually skate has waaaay less concave than this Girl twin. However, the Girl goes completely flat on the tips (which are also quite steeper than the Sour). I have a brand new Sour and checked them side by side.

I initially blamed the board designers, because it is much easier and lazy to design a board with flat tips Vs. a board with spoon nose and tail.
I now believe that it has to do with some manufacturing constraint (maybe cost? all China pressed decks that I have seen are flat tipped),because any product designer who repsects their work should be able to design a board with slightly spooned tips.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1423 on: January 09, 2024, 06:52:17 AM »
The habitat is too long for me, I knew better as I prefer 32” down to 31.75”…

The kicks are super flat, check the pic ☝️

Holy shit yea it looks like a piece of plywood!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1424 on: January 09, 2024, 09:46:58 AM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1425 on: January 09, 2024, 10:15:48 AM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1426 on: January 09, 2024, 10:25:00 AM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
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They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.

Crail used to... New boards are now $70 and $80 on their website.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1427 on: January 09, 2024, 11:19:48 AM »
Still $65 for an Ishod twin from Cal Skate. I'm sure their rices will go up very soon.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1428 on: January 09, 2024, 11:24:38 AM »
Personally, I loved all the dims on Crails G096 - not sure how the mold compares to the G069 - honestly the flat concave and fingers of flat made the board work for me. 100% different than most decks I tend to like, but something just felt so perfect.

Made me realize I liked shorter WB, but 14" is def a bit tight, ultimately worked for me tho. other than a smidge longer WB, I don't think I would change anything about that board.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1429 on: January 09, 2024, 11:46:50 AM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
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They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
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Crail used to... New boards are now $70 and $80 on their website.

All board co's seem to have high prices on their website, but when you go to some online retailers, the prices are lower than MSRP (Baker/DW do this was as well)..

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=30&searchtext=girl

$60 girl decks @ SW - including the recent Sanrio collab drop
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1430 on: January 09, 2024, 02:59:14 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
[close]

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.


The DLX boards up to 8.6 are a certain price, but anything over that, eg 8.7+ is into the higher price bracket now.

Same with wheels, to 56mm one price, then 57mm+ is the higher price.


Some shops don't pass on the price differences, but I think increasingly most have now included those higher prices for bigger boards in their normal prices.

That said, some drops seem to cost more than others too, but I don't know if the USA has any China boards, or if they will switch over to them, but on average the China made boards are significantly cheaper in all aspects.



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1431 on: January 09, 2024, 03:18:34 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
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They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
I'm glad I still have two Welcome TTs (that will probably never come back, I think they'll stick with eggs and popsicles). Seems like the market is changing. Higher prices, less shapes, etc.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1432 on: January 09, 2024, 05:11:48 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
[close]

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
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I'm glad I still have two Welcome TTs (that will probably never come back, I think they'll stick with eggs and popsicles). Seems like the market is changing. Higher prices, less shapes, etc.

Egg trend > Twin Tail trend for sure...

I'm all in on the toy machine twin but I don't expect that to stay around for very long as it felt like a very limited/small run as it is already hard to get (snagged the last 8.5" from tactics today); hopefully they get re-orders for as fast at it sold.

DLX make twins in dims I don't prefer and given what is out there, consistently - I might have to force myself on the G096 with some ventures and just suck up the short WB...14.25"WB with Indys is damn near a 14"WB with ventures.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1433 on: January 09, 2024, 05:25:42 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
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$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
[close]

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
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Crail used to... New boards are now $70 and $80 on their website.
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All board co's seem to have high prices on their website, but when you go to some online retailers, the prices are lower than MSRP (Baker/DW do this was as well)..

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=30&searchtext=girl

$60 girl decks @ SW - including the recent Sanrio collab drop

Now we wait for their monthly / quarterly 25-30% off sale.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1434 on: January 09, 2024, 05:34:01 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
[close]
$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
[close]

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
[close]
I'm glad I still have two Welcome TTs (that will probably never come back, I think they'll stick with eggs and popsicles). Seems like the market is changing. Higher prices, less shapes, etc.
[close]

Egg trend > Twin Tail trend for sure...

I'm all in on the toy machine twin but I don't expect that to stay around for very long as it felt like a very limited/small run as it is already hard to get (snagged the last 8.5" from tactics today); hopefully they get re-orders for as fast at it sold.

DLX make twins in dims I don't prefer and given what is out there, consistently - I might have to force myself on the G096 with some ventures and just suck up the short WB...14.25"WB with Indys is damn near a 14"WB with ventures.
Same here, gonna try to make the crail twins work after years of skating the ishods. Until some company regularly releases 14.25" twins that aren't stupidly overpriced...
I think I'd love the crail twins a lot more if the tails would taper more. Don't really like the scoop.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1435 on: January 09, 2024, 08:48:56 PM »
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The new Ishod series is out, including the 8.75".
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Where?
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Tactics has them up.

No pics on the listing, but you don't need a pic when you know it is a twin.


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   32.61
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.68
NOSE (IN):   6.8
TAIL (IN):   6.8
[close]
$76!? Damn, prices keep going up. Feel like they were $65 last year.
[close]

They've gone up in price almost $7.50 year.

(priced from tactics; I didn't pay full price last year, got it for $66 but still)

2020 Krooked twin slick was $59.99
2023 Krooked twin slick was $82.95

Did DLX go to china to save us a few bucks? At this point only Crail is giving decent prices these days for MIC
decks.
[close]
I'm glad I still have two Welcome TTs (that will probably never come back, I think they'll stick with eggs and popsicles). Seems like the market is changing. Higher prices, less shapes, etc.
[close]

Egg trend > Twin Tail trend for sure...

I'm all in on the toy machine twin but I don't expect that to stay around for very long as it felt like a very limited/small run as it is already hard to get (snagged the last 8.5" from tactics today); hopefully they get re-orders for as fast at it sold.

DLX make twins in dims I don't prefer and given what is out there, consistently - I might have to force myself on the G096 with some ventures and just suck up the short WB...14.25"WB with Indys is damn near a 14"WB with ventures.
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Same here, gonna try to make the crail twins work after years of skating the ishods. Until some company regularly releases 14.25" twins that aren't stupidly overpriced...
I think I'd love the crail twins a lot more if the tails would taper more. Don't really like the scoop.

Was able to check out the 8.25 crail twin in person, I like the kicks, very full and that's def more my style than the bbs twins.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1436 on: January 09, 2024, 09:37:05 PM »
All this Crail talk has me itching to try the G096 shape, I've adapted to the Habitat 8.38 twins but you definitely feel the length and got me thinking about riding something closer to a 32".
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1437 on: January 09, 2024, 10:21:28 PM »
I want too as well, but if I can find any twin with a 14.25” I’d skate that before a 14”…if I can’t scrounge up more Twin Toys I’ll bite on the G096.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1438 on: January 10, 2024, 04:02:15 AM »
I don't get it. I totally thought the time of twins has come and there won't be a drought for a long time. And ok, it's not really a drought, I'm just sick of skating twins with a wheelbase that's too long (DLX) or too short (Crail). And those are the only ones available.

Is it not financially worth it to make twins? How could that be? Are woodshops not offering any twin shapes and companies need to pay extra for new special molds? I wish every damn company would hop on the twin train.

And how does nobody (At least in europe and under 100€) offer a twin with the most basic dimensions? Is 14.25" not the most common wheelbase anymore? I'd totally buy the toy machine even though it looks way too flat for my liking.

Honestly I wish Jart would start making twins. Would probably make it a 14.2 wb and super cheap. I'd get it with any stupid graphic of any character smoking weed, don't care.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1439 on: January 10, 2024, 04:08:09 AM »

Honestly I wish Jart would start making twins. Would probably make it a 14.2 wb and super cheap. I'd get it with any stupid graphic of any character smoking weed, don't care.
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