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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1980 on: February 13, 2025, 11:51:43 AM »
That would make sense. I only briefly compared my deck to his and laid it on top, but taking a measuring tape to someone else's setup would just further cement me as an old Kook. He had on the new T2s as well and I was a bit more interested in those since there is a tentative Summer release date and they look to solve everything I dislike about Thunders. I've been interested in certain twins. I tried an Ishod and it was fine, not amazing, but its kicks are sorta short. A true twin nose is too long unless I go with a Crail, which have 14" WB and the Quasi also look a bit too short overall. A twin "between a nose and tail" sounds perfect so 6 7/8" measured across could work, but 14.5 would stretch it out a lot.

At the end of the day I'd need to just fuckin try it.

Have you tried the Foy twin? His 8.5 twin shape is a hair under 32" long with a 14.28" WB and the tails are longish for tails or shortish for noses, I would consider them to be an in-between. They're 6 13/16" (1/16th shy of 6 7/8") measured across. Personally I quite like it apart from usually having terrible graphics (I can live with that) and being harder to find on a regular basis compared to the Ishod/DLX. There is also a 8.25 Foy twin but I never tried that one.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1981 on: February 13, 2025, 11:55:50 AM »
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That would make sense. I only briefly compared my deck to his and laid it on top, but taking a measuring tape to someone else's setup would just further cement me as an old Kook. He had on the new T2s as well and I was a bit more interested in those since there is a tentative Summer release date and they look to solve everything I dislike about Thunders. I've been interested in certain twins. I tried an Ishod and it was fine, not amazing, but its kicks are sorta short. A true twin nose is too long unless I go with a Crail, which have 14" WB and the Quasi also look a bit too short overall. A twin "between a nose and tail" sounds perfect so 6 7/8" measured across could work, but 14.5 would stretch it out a lot.

At the end of the day I'd need to just fuckin try it.
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Have you tried the Foy twin? His 8.5 twin shape is 32 long with a 14.28 WB and the tails are longish for tails or shortish for noses, I would consider them to be an in-between. They're 6 13/16" (1/16th shy of 6 7/8") measured across. Personally I quite like it apart from usually having terrible graphics (I can live with that) and being harder to find on a regular basis compared to the Ishod/DLX. There is also a 8.25 Foy twin but I never tried that one.

The 8.5 foy is my fav big twin and def a 'hybrid' kick. But it's a twin that doesn't look or feel like one (like the foy 8.25/SC shapes), much like the crail boards and the primitive 8.5 twin (shes a beauty, nice and square full, just heavy boards, like old South Central heavy).

The 8.25 foy twin is a similar hybrid feel, but different shape; it's almost identical to the SC 8.25 twin (both are my fav 8.25 twins). Very rounded nose, not pointy, but not just a shrunk down foy (didn't look or feel that way to me).

The Jacopo is very much a 'traditional' 8.3 baker shaped twin, just with the small tail kicks on both ends. Def closer to the DLX offerings at that size.

I'm going for some ACEs thanks to pair thanks day sales (was waiting for the IKPs but...), so can report back as I always ride long WB with tight truck WB (and vice versa).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1982 on: February 13, 2025, 11:57:03 AM »
I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1983 on: February 13, 2025, 11:58:44 AM »
I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.

They're never anywhere, and if they are they sell  out super fast; thankfully I get mine direct.

https://bakerboysdist.com/collections/deathwish-all-boards/products/foy-checkered-foy-deck-8-5

Just checked BB, I never saw this one dropped to shops.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1984 on: February 13, 2025, 12:04:53 PM »
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I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.
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They're never anywhere, and if they are they sell  out super fast; thankfully I get mine direct.

I've seen it out there, checkered flag 8.5 Twin also available here:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Checkered_Deck/descpage-DWFCHDK.html

There is also one with the SOTY graphics on a snakeskin background but I'm not sure if that's the 8.5 or 8.25 shape, or both? There are black snakeskin and green snakeskin models.
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« Reply #1985 on: February 13, 2025, 12:18:15 PM »
thanks dudes. They are doing the SOTY dirty with that graphic.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1986 on: February 13, 2025, 12:19:56 PM »
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I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.
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They're never anywhere, and if they are they sell  out super fast; thankfully I get mine direct.
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I've seen it out there, checkered flag 8.5 Twin also available here:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Checkered_Deck/descpage-DWFCHDK.html

There is also one with the SOTY graphics on a snakeskin background but I'm not sure if that's the 8.5 or 8.25 shape, or both? There are black snakeskin and green snakeskin models.


The snakeskin is cool as fuck (I hope that shits embossed). They non-twin soty graphic is pretty weak, but I get it. Especially the signed version.

Might have to grab one of those checkered foys tho. When they are sold out everywhere, BB usually has some from some drop or two, it's why I skated so many of the gators they were the only place that had them.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1987 on: February 13, 2025, 12:23:48 PM »
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I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.
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They're never anywhere, and if they are they sell  out super fast; thankfully I get mine direct.
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I've seen it out there, checkered flag 8.5 Twin also available here:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Checkered_Deck/descpage-DWFCHDK.html

There is also one with the SOTY graphics on a snakeskin background but I'm not sure if that's the 8.5 or 8.25 shape, or both? There are black snakeskin and green snakeskin models.

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The snakeskin is cool as fuck, can't say I like the other one.
Agreed, although I would say cool, maybe not as fuck! ;D

So I digged around, the black snakeskin is the 8.5 twin shape, the green snakeskin is the 8.25 twin shape but was sold exclusively on Deathwish's website... I say was because they're all gone.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1988 on: February 13, 2025, 01:13:13 PM »
SSD25 special

Easy Rider shape



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1989 on: February 13, 2025, 03:46:35 PM »
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I haven't seen one in real life and my shop doesn't seem to get them. I would try one for sure.
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They're never anywhere, and if they are they sell  out super fast; thankfully I get mine direct.
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I've seen it out there, checkered flag 8.5 Twin also available here:
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Deathwish_Foy_Checkered_Deck/descpage-DWFCHDK.html

There is also one with the SOTY graphics on a snakeskin background but I'm not sure if that's the 8.5 or 8.25 shape, or both? There are black snakeskin and green snakeskin models.

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The snakeskin is cool as fuck, can't say I like the other one.
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Agreed, although I would say cool, maybe not as fuck! ;D

So I digged around, the black snakeskin is the 8.5 twin shape, the green snakeskin is the 8.25 twin shape but was sold exclusively on Deathwish's website... I say was because they're all gone.

Since it wasn't a sure thing they couldn't prebook and sell to shops (?) so they sold them out of the warehouse first (and probably did a limited run).

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« Reply #1990 on: February 13, 2025, 05:08:50 PM »
Easy Rider twin seems interesting but good luck on DLX regularly issuing that shape. They are super light on Easy Riders in this drop and not dropping most of them consistently.

My local said they barely sold and they sat on them until they were the last DLX option. No one I know has liked the Ben D shape so that adds up.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1991 on: February 13, 2025, 05:35:49 PM »
Easy Rider twin seems interesting but good luck on DLX regularly issuing that shape. They are super light on Easy Riders in this drop and not dropping most of them consistently.

My local said they barely sold and they sat on them until they were the last DLX option. No one I know has liked the Ben D shape so that adds up.

Yeah, seems like the B en D. shape didn't go over well. The easy rider 8.25 twin wasn't my cup of tea, and I like flat boards these days; as much as I've tried, the DLX twins just don't do it for me, 8.25/8.3 anyway and the 8.3 should as those are ideal dims for me, just something about the kicks that I can't figure out...shape I think.

That said, I tend prefer longer kicks on twins, so far the primitive 8.5 has been the best kick length (just shorty WB)...you can really sit on slides and crooks well.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1992 on: February 14, 2025, 07:14:57 PM »
If the kicks on the  jacopo is 6 5/8, I'm def out. Can anyone confirm is the primitive 8.5 actually has a 14.3 wheelbase like the website says? Also, kick length?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1993 on: February 15, 2025, 07:22:08 AM »
Im skating the 8.0 ishod twintail. Im not sure if its 14.25 or 14.38. Didn't pay attention.

I skating it with 5.6 venture highs standard and conical full 53s.

This board feels as stiff as a dwindle deck. Its BBS. I think the small steeper kicks make it feel like that. But I'm having a blast on it. Lost my nollie flips though lol.

WB is 14.38, with ventures and long wheelbase I am sure that is why it feels so stiff... I was skating mine with thunders & indys and the board felt the best on indys but hated the instant wheelbite...

I swapped to South Central twins as they have a 14.25 WB, have more concave and longer kicks and put Ventures back on... I was also having issues with the ishod twins getting soggy quickly, and needed a deck with a tad longer kicks!

I also tried the crail twins, with 14" WB but they felt off to me...
 

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1994 on: February 17, 2025, 10:59:59 AM »
If the kicks on the  jacopo is 6 5/8, I'm def out. Can anyone confirm is the primitive 8.5 actually has a 14.3 wheelbase like the website says? Also, kick length?

The Primitive 8.5" does NOT have a 14.3" WB. It's 14.125 (confirmed a handfull of posts a few pages back; the two I have measure this way as well). Perfect with Ventures.

The Jacapo is .... weird...but I can make it work I feel. I'm used to fuller kicks and not usually a fan of pointy baker boards. I threw some royals on it as that is the tightest WB truck I have on hand to tame that 14.5" and get closer to the ACE effect on WB that he rides.

It's sort of a hybrid between the 8.3 DLX/8.4 SC board shapes and dims. Feels a lot thinner than it is due to the kicks.

Here's a gripped pic



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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1995 on: February 17, 2025, 11:05:35 AM »
Thanks Xen!


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« Reply #1996 on: February 18, 2025, 01:19:59 PM »
Guess I should've checked here first because I was pissed/surprised when I saw the jacopo town at my local and it was 31.75 instead of the advertised 32.

Ended up getting a 8.38 B2 shape instead. Though I measured that and the WB was slightly less than the advertised 14.5 by 1/16-1/8.

Bakerboys needs to get their shit together.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1997 on: February 18, 2025, 03:29:47 PM »
Guess I should've checked here first because I was pissed/surprised when I saw the jacopo town at my local and it was 31.75 instead of the advertised 32.

Ended up getting a 8.38 B2 shape instead. Though I measured that and the WB was slightly less than the advertised 14.5 by 1/16-1/8.

Bakerboys needs to get their shit together.

i was eyeing that B2 (yellow reynolds) but went with a limosine instead.

They do seem to be very inconsistent, moresoe than other brands that use BBS. We all know there are variences but unless they have thousands of stickers to burn through, the QC is left unchecked when it gets to the WH...saying that, any heroin has always been on point - I recall Fos saying he measures the samples before the order is run.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #1998 on: February 18, 2025, 05:38:23 PM »
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Guess I should've checked here first because I was pissed/surprised when I saw the jacopo town at my local and it was 31.75 instead of the advertised 32.

Ended up getting a 8.38 B2 shape instead. Though I measured that and the WB was slightly less than the advertised 14.5 by 1/16-1/8.

Bakerboys needs to get their shit together.
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i was eyeing that B2 (yellow reynolds) but went with a limosine instead.

They do seem to be very inconsistent, moresoe than other brands that use BBS. We all know there are variences but unless they have thousands of stickers to burn through, the QC is left unchecked when it gets to the WH...saying that, any heroin has always been on point - I recall Fos saying he measures the samples before the order is run.
Good guy Fos. Dude is the sweetest.

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« Reply #1999 on: February 18, 2025, 06:03:33 PM »
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Guess I should've checked here first because I was pissed/surprised when I saw the jacopo town at my local and it was 31.75 instead of the advertised 32.

Ended up getting a 8.38 B2 shape instead. Though I measured that and the WB was slightly less than the advertised 14.5 by 1/16-1/8.

Bakerboys needs to get their shit together.
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i was eyeing that B2 (yellow reynolds) but went with a limosine instead.

They do seem to be very inconsistent, moresoe than other brands that use BBS. We all know there are variences but unless they have thousands of stickers to burn through, the QC is left unchecked when it gets to the WH...saying that, any heroin has always been on point - I recall Fos saying he measures the samples before the order is run.

Yea the yellow Reynolds is the one I got.

I feel like the difference on the jacopo length was just a typo on their website since the sticker was still accurate.

But the width on the Reynolds has to be an error. All of the 8.38 B2s on their site are listed as 14.5 WB, and the sticker said 14.5 WB.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2000 on: March 06, 2025, 06:35:53 AM »
I saw a Roger twin in 8.5 with wheel wells some months ago, but I couldn't find it again in a minute of googling just now. Might be worth looking into though.
Maybe is this one?
https://skatemenu.com/products/roger-magic-mirror-ryan-thompson-8-5-symmetrical-shape-skate-deck
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2001 on: March 06, 2025, 12:16:16 PM »
^Yeah, I think so, good pull. Though this site says nothing about wheel wells. The shop I initially saw it at said it had them though, and I've usually found them to be very reliable and detail-oriented. Only one way to find out for sure I guess.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2002 on: March 06, 2025, 12:21:28 PM »
^Yeah, I think so, good pull. Though this site says nothing about wheel wells. The shop I initially saw it at said it had them though, and I've usually found them to be very reliable and detail-oriented. Only one way to find out for sure I guess.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG0D_tCoViU/?igsh=dXlraHlpODA2cXg4


HLC happen to just post this.

Wheel wells under the graphic

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2003 on: March 06, 2025, 10:55:00 PM »
I bought new Creature deck and label says it's ATV shape and on NHS store page you can read "ATV is a universal medium-depth concave with symmetrical nose and tail kick that performs well in all terrains on a wide variety of shapes - for anybody, anywhere."
Many decks from NHS on their page have the same ATV shape. They also had twin tip decks but it's something other than ATV decks (propably because of longer kick - my 8.25 x 32 deck's kicks looks like a little bit longer and steeper tails, and because of medium concave).
Also, it's my first post and sorry for my bad english but I hope you know what I meant.

Edit: I measured tail and nose and the nose is 1cm (~0.4 inch) longer than tail, so it's not symmetrical.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2004 on: March 07, 2025, 12:10:59 AM »
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I saw a Roger twin in 8.5 with wheel wells some months ago, but I couldn't find it again in a minute of googling just now. Might be worth looking into though.
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Maybe is this one?
https://skatemenu.com/products/roger-magic-mirror-ryan-thompson-8-5-symmetrical-shape-skate-deck

Man that looks nice with great dims. Roger is BBS, right?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2005 on: March 07, 2025, 01:11:34 AM »
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I saw a Roger twin in 8.5 with wheel wells some months ago, but I couldn't find it again in a minute of googling just now. Might be worth looking into though.
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Maybe is this one?
https://skatemenu.com/products/roger-magic-mirror-ryan-thompson-8-5-symmetrical-shape-skate-deck
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Man that looks nice with great dims. Roger is BBS, right?


I believe Roger has been on HLC wood for a while now.

Could have changed though.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2006 on: March 07, 2025, 01:20:26 AM »
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twin tail(or nose) WITH wheel wells??


do any pals know if this board exists in a size under like 8.5
i almost only ride the Polar 8.25 w wheelwells and since hearing ishods interview in bomb hole i really want to try this « freedom » hes talking bout but dont want to have to tighten my trucks to keep from getting terrible wheelbite
cheers fellow nerds

(i know of the 10inch grimple board already but too big)
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  I had a Life Skateboards 8.625 twin with wheel wells that I liked a lot. I think they make one that's like 8.125 or something like that.
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HLC does twin 8.25 - 8.75 with wheel wells, but only on Jart / Cruzade decks at the moment with the worst graphics.

Plus side the Sk8Mafia Brandon Turner twin looks sick and is available in 8.25 / 8.5

https://skatemenu.com/collections/skateboard-decks?filter.p.m.custom.deck_shape=TWIN+TAIL&sort_by=manual

Couple more options for larger twins
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2007 on: March 07, 2025, 01:42:10 AM »
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I saw a Roger twin in 8.5 with wheel wells some months ago, but I couldn't find it again in a minute of googling just now. Might be worth looking into though.
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Maybe is this one?
https://skatemenu.com/products/roger-magic-mirror-ryan-thompson-8-5-symmetrical-shape-skate-deck
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Man that looks nice with great dims. Roger is BBS, right?
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I believe Roger has been on HLC wood for a while now.

Could have changed though.

As per @TwisT 's confirmation (thanks!), it's for sure HLC.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2008 on: March 07, 2025, 02:36:49 AM »
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I saw a Roger twin in 8.5 with wheel wells some months ago, but I couldn't find it again in a minute of googling just now. Might be worth looking into though.
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Maybe is this one?
https://skatemenu.com/products/roger-magic-mirror-ryan-thompson-8-5-symmetrical-shape-skate-deck
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Man that looks nice with great dims. Roger is BBS, right?
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I believe Roger has been on HLC wood for a while now.

Could have changed though.
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As per @TwisT 's confirmation (thanks!), it's for sure HLC.
At least the link I provided is from the HLC webstore.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #2009 on: March 08, 2025, 01:32:52 AM »
Crosspost from the set up thread.



I am back on the First Skateshop blank twins after a foray into the Ishod 8.25 twin and the DGK 8.25 twin, which did not really work for me. I guess it has to do with the concave, which is really flat on these blanks as opposed to the steeper Ishod and even steeper DGK. I have to say that kickflips worked like a treat on the Ishod and even better on the DGK but the price for that was that I really struggled with frontside flips and even completely lost fakie frontside flips on the DGK. A price I was not ready to pay. Now I have to relearn riding the flat concave but what can I do...

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