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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #810 on: October 12, 2021, 10:03:33 PM »
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I saw mini logo trucks for the first time ever in the wild today, got to ride them around and I have to say they felt surprisingly good, almost like a lighter ace(No, they don't turn exactly as well, but great). Maybe exactly what I've been looking for.
Are they popular in the US? If no, why not? Looked them up again and they're incredibly cheap, even over here in europe.
I guess I'd have to use risers because they're so low, but about 51mm height with 3mm risers sounds great.
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I saw someone riding a pair in the wild recently as well, took me by surprise!

They’re actually very good, especially if you want a low, light, wide truck that turns like Indy/ace/theeve. Grind great too.
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Agreed, just got some ML trucks for a 7.75 I’m riding and I’m surprised at how well they turn. The grind is decent, seems about the same as the Thunder I was riding yesterday. No break in time for the bushings. They felt great right off the bat
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Now you guys got me interested, been looking for a sub 50mm truck for 8.25 boards that aren't tensor. Any idea how much they affect wheelbase?
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Between Ace and Indy - closer to Ace
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AF1 or the Classics?

Never a fan of Indys and I haven't ridden Ace before. But I do like a Low truck for pinchy grinds.

And I'll have to start looking at decks with WB longer than 14.25.

Is it worth the commitment for such a large switch up?

Classics (to me). They're a generically good truck, there is literally nothing you can complain about (other than maybe being too low) as far as functionality goes.

They're cheap and worth checking out, again, especially if you want a low and wide truck (that's also light and surfy). I ruined mine with inverted pins, wish I hadn't (the plate doesn't hold any adhesive for long due to the big open/hollow space and the smooth surface).

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #811 on: October 13, 2021, 08:24:50 AM »
Classics (to me). They're a generically good truck, there is literally nothing you can complain about (other than maybe being too low) as far as functionality goes.

They're cheap and worth checking out, again, especially if you want a low and wide truck (that's also light and surfy). I ruined mine with inverted pins, wish I hadn't (the plate doesn't hold any adhesive for long due to the big open/hollow space and the smooth surface).

The other thing to complain about is the dogshit kingpin clearance.  But to be fair, it's just as bad - if not worse on my Thunder 147s.

I also failed at the Krux kingpin conversion. It would hold the nut for a few weeks - but then it would break free.

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #812 on: October 13, 2021, 09:47:28 AM »
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Classics (to me). They're a generically good truck, there is literally nothing you can complain about (other than maybe being too low) as far as functionality goes.

They're cheap and worth checking out, again, especially if you want a low and wide truck (that's also light and surfy). I ruined mine with inverted pins, wish I hadn't (the plate doesn't hold any adhesive for long due to the big open/hollow space and the smooth surface).
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The other thing to complain about is the dogshit kingpin clearance.  But to be fair, it's just as bad - if not worse on my Thunder 147s.

I also failed at the Krux kingpin conversion. It would hold the nut for a few weeks - but then it would break free.


Yeah clearance leaves a little to be desired, but for a low truck, you get more than you would normally expect.


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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #813 on: October 13, 2021, 10:17:44 PM »
Skateboarders tighten their trucks based on their own preferences. Generally, tighter trucks can make your turns hard, and loose trucks can give you unstable turns, so you have to adjust your trucks perfectly. But it wasn’t the case all the time.

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #814 on: October 14, 2021, 02:29:35 AM »
I just need to say that Films are the best trucks ever.

I wish they made a true 8.5 size

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #815 on: October 14, 2021, 07:02:35 AM »
Skateboarders tighten their trucks based on their own preferences. Generally, tighter trucks can make your turns hard, and loose trucks can give you unstable turns, so you have to adjust your trucks perfectly. But it wasn’t the case all the time.

Damn this is fascinating, go on...

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #816 on: October 14, 2021, 08:31:29 PM »
Question about theeves. Do you guys find they wobble in the pivot cup if they're not tightened down? I found the front trucks especially wobbly from the pressure on grinds like crooks. Tightened it down and it's stopped for now. I find as they break in, they get very turny, but less responsive? Like, they don't snap back to center as fast as the ATG tensors. We'll see how they go, hoping I don't run into bushing problems like old versions. For turning, in my experience so far it's probably Ace > Theeve/Tensor (depends on what flavor you like) > Indy/Thunder >>> Venture (I remember having venture highs and being pretty disappointed with the turn)

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #817 on: October 14, 2021, 09:38:26 PM »
Question about theeves. Do you guys find they wobble in the pivot cup if they're not tightened down? I found the front trucks especially wobbly from the pressure on grinds like crooks. Tightened it down and it's stopped for now. I find as they break in, they get very turny, but less responsive? Like, they don't snap back to center as fast as the ATG tensors. We'll see how they go, hoping I don't run into bushing problems like old versions. For turning, in my experience so far it's probably Ace > Theeve/Tensor (depends on what flavor you like) > Indy/Thunder >>> Venture (I remember having venture highs and being pretty disappointed with the turn)


Any truck might have more issues if the pivot cup or the bushings are not quite up to it, or if they are blown out or bushings overtightened.

Lots of different things will affect how the truck performs, no matter what brand of truck, or what type of pivot cups or bushings, but I see more people have particularly good or bad things to say about some brands over others, eg the love for Riptides is A+++ from a lot of people, but I have never had them, never felt I needed them, and all brands of my trucks turn and work fine, how I would expect them to in the pivot cup and bushings departments.


If the pivot point is blown out, replace the pivot cups and see if there is any difference, or as you did, tighten them down a touch which should keep things a bit more on the non wobbly side, with fewer noises too.


I have seen more kingpins come loose in Theeve trucks than anything else, but that is just what has come through that I have seen, so not necessarily a common thing all round.  The stock setups were fairly well medium in the turn when new but when worn in the bushings would soften up a fair bit too, so people would be tightening them down more over time, which changed the geometry of the turn on them - crushing the bottom bushings.



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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
« Reply #818 on: October 14, 2021, 10:30:09 PM »
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Classics (to me). They're a generically good truck, there is literally nothing you can complain about (other than maybe being too low) as far as functionality goes.

They're cheap and worth checking out, again, especially if you want a low and wide truck (that's also light and surfy). I ruined mine with inverted pins, wish I hadn't (the plate doesn't hold any adhesive for long due to the big open/hollow space and the smooth surface).
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The other thing to complain about is the dogshit kingpin clearance.  But to be fair, it's just as bad - if not worse on my Thunder 147s.

I also failed at the Krux kingpin conversion. It would hold the nut for a few weeks - but then it would break free.

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Yeah clearance leaves a little to be desired, but for a low truck, you get more than you would normally expect.



Took the plunge with the Skate Warehouse discount, I'm sure I have some boards on ice with WB 14.25 or longer.

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Re: Truck set ups, less popular brands edition
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Classics (to me). They're a generically good truck, there is literally nothing you can complain about (other than maybe being too low) as far as functionality goes.

They're cheap and worth checking out, again, especially if you want a low and wide truck (that's also light and surfy). I ruined mine with inverted pins, wish I hadn't (the plate doesn't hold any adhesive for long due to the big open/hollow space and the smooth surface).
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The other thing to complain about is the dogshit kingpin clearance.  But to be fair, it's just as bad - if not worse on my Thunder 147s.

I also failed at the Krux kingpin conversion. It would hold the nut for a few weeks - but then it would break free.

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Yeah clearance leaves a little to be desired, but for a low truck, you get more than you would normally expect.
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Took the plunge with the Skate Warehouse discount, I'm sure I have some boards on ice with WB 14.25 or longer.

Did the same. Will post up with my impressions after I get a few sessions in. For anyone wanting  to give em a shot you can get a set at SW for $28.88 USD w/ current discount.